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Imam speaks out on N.Y. Islamic Center
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 12:32 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The imam at the center of an ugly controversy over an Islamic center near New York's ground zero broke his silence Tuesday, just hours after a broad coalition of Christian, Jewish and Islamic leaders denounced what they described as a rising tide of anti-Muslim bigotry across the United States. "I have been struck by how the controversy has riveted the attention of Americans, as well as nearly everyone I met in my travels," said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf in an editorial published online by The New York Times Tuesday night. "We have all been awed by how inflamed and emotional the issue of the proposed community center has become," wrote Rauf, who has just returned from a State Department-sponsored Middle East trip to promote U.S.-Muslim relations. "The level of attention reflects the degree to which people care about the very American values under debate: recognition of the rights of others, tolerance and freedom of worship." The imam was clear about his intentions. "We are proceeding with the community center, Cordoba House. More important, we are doing so with the support of the downtown community, government at all levels and leaders from across the religious spectrum, who will be our partners. I am convinced that it is the right thing to do for many reasons," he wrote. Opponents of the plan to build the center say it is too close to the site of the terror attacks and is an affront to the memory of those who died in the al Qaeda strike. Backers cite, among other things, First Amendment rights and the need to express religious tolerance. Rauf described the center to be built two blocks from the former site of the World Trade Center towers -- destroyed by terrorist-hijacked commercial jets on September 11, 2001 -- as a "shared space for community activities, like a swimming pool, classrooms and a play space for children." "There will be separate prayer spaces for Muslims, Christians, Jews and men and women of other faiths," he wrote. "The center will also include a multifaith memorial dedicated to victims of the Sept. 11 attacks." "I am very sensitive to the feelings of the families of victims of 9/11, as are my fellow leaders of many faiths. We will accordingly seek the support of those families, and the support of our vibrant neighborhood, as we consider the ultimate plans for the community center. Our objective has always been to make this a center for unification and healing." New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg spoke on Tuesday about the plan and criticized politicians he claims are using the issue for political gain ahead of midterm elections in November. "This is a political thing that all came up in two months -- and it's going to go away on November 4th," he said. Various faith leaders in recent weeks have expressed concerns about hate crimes against American Muslims in the run-up to this weekend's anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, which coincide with the holiday of Eid-al-Fitr, marking the conclusion of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Worry over what some observers have termed "Islamophobia" has also been heightened by a Gainesville, Florida, church's plan to burn copies of the Quran on Saturday, the ninth anniversary of the attacks on New York and Washington. "Freedom of religion is a hallmark of this country," said Ingrid Mattson, head of the Islamic Society of North America. It is time to decide "whether we are going to live up to our values." The coalition released a statement decrying a "disturbing rise in discrimination against Muslims" and declaring that the current "level of hostility, fear mongering and hate speech is unacceptable and un-American." "We believe the best way to uphold America's democratic values is to ensure that Muslims can exercise the same religious freedom enjoyed by everyone in America," the statement read. Last week, the Council on American-Islamic Relations launched a series of commercials designed to fight what it called growing Islamophobia. One in the series features a Muslim firefighter who was among the first responders on 9/11. Opponents of the New York Islamic center are "trying to tell the world and tell Americans that Muslims do not belong here. That Muslims are the others, when we are in fact, all Americans," said Nahad Awad, executive director of the council. "They're trying to portray Muslims as foreigners. This is a dangerous repeat of history. If it's allowed, it's going to hurt all of us," he said. "Those mainly conservative Christians who respond to their Muslim brothers and sisters -- their fellow Americans -- with anti-Muslim bigotry or hatred, they are openly rejecting... the First Amendment principles of religious liberty which we as evangelical Christians benefit daily," said Rev. Richard Cizik, of the New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good, at the National Press Club. "And to those who would exercise derision ... bigotry (and) open rejection of our fellow Americans for their religious faith -- I say shame on you."
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 12:50 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: "We are proceeding with the community center, Cordoba House.
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 12:58 PM
WHOZIT
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:17 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:18 PM
HKCAVALIER
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 2:32 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 3:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, Fear, Anger, Hate. Some people are ruled by their emotions. What a surprise to learn that those people would be U.S. --Anthony
Wednesday, September 8, 2010 3:52 PM
Thursday, September 9, 2010 2:36 AM
KANEMAN
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's funny, Kwickie, that you think this war started on 9/11. It's funny that you forget the Kobar Towers, the USS Cole, the '93 WTC bombing, Embassies in E.Africa.... It's funny that you think that fighting back in any way makes us LESS safe. No, wait... funny isn't what I'm thinking of.... It's just sad.
Thursday, September 9, 2010 10:46 AM
Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:25 AM
Quote:I do not feel that the Tea Party is a religious movement, but I do feel they are susceptible to having their agenda derailed.
Quote:The tea party is a religious movement to the same degree as any political ideology is.
Quote:I heard a right good quote at a local politician who's kind of overreligious this morning when he started using religious talk as a responsibility-dodge, the ole if-god-wills-it craploa. "Hey, god didn't run for this office, YOU did!" If I wanted some diety in charge I'd fuckin vote for em, yanno ?
Quote:you can try to label the tea party as religious if you'd like, i'll be laughing at you for being pathetic
Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:36 AM
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Thursday, September 9, 2010 12:06 PM
Thursday, September 9, 2010 1:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Niki - that the mosque was approved by the pin headed community 'leaders', and yet is overwhelmingly unpopular in NYC, as it is across the nation, only goes to prove that those 'leaders' aren't listening to the people. The community there does not want it, so it will not be of any benefit TO that community.
Quote: Placating religious terrorists by being nice and trying to prove to them that we're tolerant to their views isn't going to work here. Imam Rauf's disastrous interview w/ Solodad O'Brien is clear evidence of that fact. His threats and intimidation tactics, as well as his lies, are pulling the prayer rug out from under him far better than any Quran burning down in FL ever could .
Thursday, September 9, 2010 1:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: No one's rights are being infringed if they build it somewhere else. There's no bigotry or intolerance going on here, at all. They're free to build and worship, as they please. Just not at Ground Zero.
Thursday, September 9, 2010 1:47 PM
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