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Republican Candidate likes to dress up as a Nazi
Monday, October 11, 2010 1:33 PM
PENGUIN
Monday, October 11, 2010 1:39 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, October 11, 2010 2:21 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Monday, October 11, 2010 2:36 PM
Monday, October 11, 2010 2:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Penguin: There's a huge difference between learning about history and dressing up like a frakking Nazi.
Monday, October 11, 2010 3:27 PM
OUT2THEBLACK
Monday, October 11, 2010 3:39 PM
Monday, October 11, 2010 3:43 PM
Monday, October 11, 2010 3:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko:
Monday, October 11, 2010 4:35 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:20 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Historical reenactment is an educational activity in which participants attempt to recreate some aspects of a historical event or period. This may be as narrow as a specific moment from a battle, such as the reenactment of Pickett's Charge at the Great Reunion of 1913, or as broad as an entire period, such as Regency reenactment.
Quote:What nationality? This is a pretty easy one. One thing to think about when you're portraying the generic soldier for any of the impressions. The cheapest to do is Russian. The uniform is basic & the gun is cheap. Guys who do Russian say you can pick up your entire empression for less than $300, including the Mosin-Nagant Rifle! You could choose to do US GI. The uniforms are easily obtained. Any size can be bought as a reproduction, but if you fit original you can pick the stuff up cheap. I personally go with reproductions & keep the originals at home...or as my dress uniform where I know I will not damage them. The basic rifle will cost you since a M1 Garand can cost over $500-$600 for a decent one. The hobby always needs more quality Germans. The uniforms cost a bit more than US uniforms, but your rifle will probably cost you less than $200. But as we all know, you're not in this for the cost of it. Pick a nationality you feel comfortable doing and you'll enjoy researching. Which Branch of Service? This is getting a little more specific as to what you'll do on the battlefield. The basic options are Infantry, Airborne Infantry, Armored, and Support Services like Signal Corp, Medical, or Transportation. The most common unit on the WW2 battlefield was the Infantry and as such they are always needed. They were the backbone of the army, taking & holding the ground that was fought for. Elite units like the US, UK, or German Paratroopers, US 1st Special Services Force, German mountian troops and German Waffen SS all get cool unique equipment & dashing uniforms. Don't get me wrong here, I've got a Paratrooper impression, but there are generally too many elite units at reenactments. Lets also don't forget the Support troops. I've read that there were about 20 men to support every man on the front. These soldiers can be portrayed at living histories, tacticals, and reenactments as Signal Corp wire layers, Medics, Surgical Hospital staff, truck drivers, Military Police, and much more.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:51 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Penguin: There's a huge difference between learning about history and ...
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Thank you, Frem, and omigawd, Wulf, I have to agree with you. Yuck.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:34 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:40 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:44 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: As I've pointed out - and as Niki and JSF have both glossed over completely - this guy isn't just "a reenactor"; he's part of a very specific group - Wiking SS Division, they call themselves, dedicated to reenacting the actions of a specific group WITHIN the SS, a group which is most notorious for their rounding up and slaughtering of Hungarian Jews. That's their claim to fame.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Oh, by the way, doesn't this provide a conundrum for anyone who was engaged in reenacting the Civil War? Weren't horrific things done there? It's a problem, because if it happens in the SOUTH, anyone portraying a Yankee (or, gawd forbid, a black soldier!) surely shouldn't be allowed to hold office; in the North, anyone portraying a Confederate, or slave owner, or, or.... Right? Oops, what about the Revolutionary War? Surely anyone portraying a BRIT in any kind of reenactment of THAT war should immediately be deported, don'tcha think?? We should get Homeland Security notified of that one... Gee, it's a mess all over, come to think of it. How about those who reenact Roman times? Or Medieval? Or ANY other? Think about it...surely there are "bad guys" in every conceivable reenactment to pick on if you look hard enough... Oh, damn, I guess that means no TV, movies, school plays, opera, stage plays...or is it only amateurs we can go after? Do you have to have a SAG card to be exempt from attack? Hey, this place has FINALLY found something that actually gets my "panties in a bunch"! Congrats!
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:07 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:15 PM
Quote:The 5. SS Wiking reenactment group is a non-profit, nonpolitical organization dedicated to the preservation of the history of WW II and the lifestyle of the German combat soldier (specifically Waffen-SS foreign volunteers).
Quote:This page or anyone involved in its creation, or members of reenactment groups listed here, are in no way affiliated with real, radical political organizations (i.e., KKK, Aryan Nation, American Nazi Party, etc.) and do not embrace the philosophies and actions of the original NSDAP (Nazi party), and wholeheartedly condemn the atrocities which made them infamous. May the victims of this unspeakable horror rest in peace. As we portray the German combat soldier, we are only interested in recreating his daily life, furthering our understanding of what it took to be a soldier, and at the same time having fun reliving history. We honor the men (and women) who really experienced the war, and we salute their courage and loyalty to put their lives on the line in defense of their native soil, no matter what nationality or government.
Quote:The 9th Reenactment Society is a group of non-political enthusiasts of history. We portray combat soldiers of the 9th Waffen-SS Panzer Division "Hohenstaufen" at public displays and at private reenactments. We are not a neo-nazi organization, nor do we subscribe to the ideas, ideals, goals, or aspirations of any extremist or far right-wing groups, nor are we affiliated with any such organizations. For the hobby of reenacting to function, both sides of the conflict must be represented. As such, we have taken on the role of an elite German formation of World War II. World War II was the largest, most deadly conflict in human history. The effects of that conflict are still felt today, over 60 years after the last shots were fired. The cost of victory was staggering, as some 50 million people worldwide lost their lives. By engaging in living history and reenactments, we hope to keep the history of this dark period alive, and to help educate the public about what America's enemies looked like and why victory over them was such a monumental achievement. Sadly, many in America today have little to no connection with the past. Our group, and dozens like it, hope to help folks understand World War II, its impact, and its relevance to modern day events.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:16 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:39 PM
Quote:State Sen. Glenn McConnell says a snapshot he posed for Friday in a Confederate general’s uniform with a pair of black re-enactors in dress from the slavery era shows how the ways of the segregated South are behind the state for good … “What the ladies had put together was a smorgasbord of Southern culture,” McConnell said. “It was reflected in the dress, the historical accuracy of the performances and even down to the food. It was a wonderful, entertaining and educational night for those visitors. It showed the approach we have in this state of a shared history.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:51 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:57 PM
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:14 PM
Quote:Wow. You're as bad when you're wrong as some of the most narrow minded among us! I'd never have believed it. Have you ever been involved in amateur theater or anything like a Ren Faire? If not, maybe you can be excused, maybe you don't understand. That's all I can come up with, but it's very saddening.
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 6:38 PM
Quote: Maybe someday the WILL reenact 'Nam, I dunno, it'd have to be quite a while in the future. But it's fair game, technically; 9/11 isn't, there's nothing to reenact and I think it will always be a sore spot even if there was.
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:09 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:25 AM
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:28 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:28 AM
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: JS: I know nothing of the man’s character; he may well be an idiot or anything else. My complaint merely was that to condemn him for having been part of a hobby in which literally millions of people worldwide (mostly in Western countries) engage by saying it proves he’s a Nazi sympathizer is asinine and wrong. Beyond that, I have nothing to say about his character (except no, I don’t like him). I will decry political attempts to attack people in this manner from any side...coming up with VALID negative information about someone is fine with me, but creating something out of something it is not is wrong and I will express my opinion as such. I am defending the right of people to choose any character they want to indulge in a hobby which harms nobody. There are people everywhere who will be offended by SOMETHING, of course, but I don't acknowledge the rightness of those people condemning an activity which isn't harming them and isn't representative of the actual feelings of the original participants. I have no DOUBT there are those who are offended by Ren Faires, despite the fact that they are definitely a romanticized view of the Elizabethan period.
Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:46 PM
Quote:I recall that for many black actors, playing a slave was the only way to remain employed in Hollywood - and in the Zohan movie it is mentioned the only roles for middle-eastern actors is as terrorists or cabbies. Likely kwicko thinks none of these films should be made, or nobody should fulfill these roles.
Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:02 AM
Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:16 AM
KANEMAN
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Oh, by the way, doesn't this provide a conundrum for anyone who was engaged in reenacting the Civil War? Weren't horrific things done there? It's a problem, because if it happens in the SOUTH, anyone portraying a Yankee (or, gawd forbid, a black soldier!) surely shouldn't be allowed to hold office; in the North, anyone portraying a Confederate, or slave owner, or, or.... Right? Oops, what about the Revolutionary War? Surely anyone portraying a BRIT in any kind of reenactment of THAT war should immediately be deported, don'tcha think?? We should get Homeland Security notified of that one... Gee, it's a mess all over, come to think of it. How about those who reenact Roman times? Or Medieval? Or ANY other? Think about it...surely there are "bad guys" in every conceivable reenactment to pick on if you look hard enough... Oh, damn, I guess that means no TV, movies, school plays, opera, stage plays...or is it only amateurs we can go after? Do you have to have a SAG card to be exempt from attack? Hey, this place has FINALLY found something that actually gets my "panties in a bunch"! Congrats! In fairness, it's not the ONLY thing around here that gets your panties in a bunch, it seems... Again I ask, because nobody wants to answer - when y'all go to the Civil War reenactments, who jumps up to play the slave auctioneer? How many of your guys jump to volunteer to play the Klansmen during the Reconstruction part? How many folks are aching to play Bin Laden in the Tora Bora reenactments? Who's volunteering to put a bunch of bullets in Pat Tillman in the reenactment of his murder? The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger. AURaptor's Greatest Hits: Friday, September 24, 2010 I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that. Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama: Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit. ... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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