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Monday, November 15, 2010 5:12 AM
OUT2THEBLACK
Monday, November 15, 2010 5:43 AM
DREAMTROVE
Monday, November 15, 2010 5:49 AM
CANTTAKESKY
Monday, November 15, 2010 8:25 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Monday, November 15, 2010 8:48 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Thanks for the post. I thought this was obvious, it's the Orwellian Society, but there are some who still don't get it. The purpose, of course, is fear. Note that they don't even have to hide it, they call it terrorism, "war on terror." They mean "reign of terror." It's like how our war is called the "New Global Conflict." A simple thesaurus turns that into "New World War" or if you prefer "World War Three." Our major candidates of both parties have been openly campaigning for WWIII, and the sheeple voted for it.
Monday, November 15, 2010 11:58 AM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You know how you know you have too much freedom? You can still ask yourself if you have too much freedom. At a certain point, that won't even be a question you'd think of.
Monday, November 15, 2010 12:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You know how you know you have too much freedom? You can still ask yourself if you have too much freedom. At a certain point, that won't even be a question you'd think of. The extreme Left & extreme Right see nothing wrong with that. "We offered the world ORDER!!!" The laughing Chrisisall
Monday, November 15, 2010 1:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: they ORDERED the world order! :) And we seem to be their humble waiters...
Monday, November 15, 2010 4:10 PM
Monday, November 15, 2010 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Today, airports. Tomorrow, your car. The day after, your workplace. A week from Thursday, your bedroom. But think of how safe you'll be!
Monday, November 15, 2010 7:24 PM
Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:27 AM
Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:24 PM
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Niki Open the other eye. You cannot see the insults which insult the right because you are not on the right. You tend to remark upon the insults which affect all humanity "asshole" etc. and those which effect the left "libtard" or those which effect a non partisan group "raghead" but you don't see, and often have used yourself things which offend the right. If someone were to say "Racist wingnut teabaggers like Rand Paul and Ron Paul" Will hit offensive on several levels. Someone said on one of those pundit shows, I don't remember, "The tea party sure has attracted the birthers and truthers" Birthers and truthers belong in a pairing? That's offensive. If I don't accept that Osama bin Laden flew planes into the WTC just because Bush says so than I'm the same as someone who believes some head case from Moldova who claims Obama is a Kenyan because she failed to derail McCain on the grounds that he was a Panamanian? See, all sorts of things can be offensive, but if you're not in the target range, you may not even see them. "Neocon teabaggers" is another double attack: It's an offensive flawed grouping of two opposed camp, and it calls the latter suckers of balls.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Birthers and truthers belong in a pairing?
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:40 AM
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Niki Open the other eye. You cannot see the insults which insult the right because you are not on the right. You tend to remark upon the insults which affect all humanity "asshole" etc. and those which effect the left "libtard" or those which effect a non partisan group "raghead" but you don't see, and often have used yourself things which offend the right. If someone were to say "Racist wingnut teabaggers like Rand Paul and Ron Paul" Will hit offensive on several levels. Someone said on one of those pundit shows, I don't remember, "The tea party sure has attracted the birthers and truthers" Birthers and truthers belong in a pairing? That's offensive. If I don't accept that Osama bin Laden flew planes into the WTC just because Bush says so than I'm the same as someone who believes some head case from Moldova who claims Obama is a Kenyan because she failed to derail McCain on the grounds that he was a Panamanian? See, all sorts of things can be offensive, but if you're not in the target range, you may not even see them. "Neocon teabaggers" is another double attack: It's an offensive flawed grouping of two opposed camp, and it calls the latter suckers of balls. The "pairing" of "Birthers and Truthers" is in your mind only, I think. You HEARD it as a "pairing". If I were to say that Obama won in '08 because of the votes of Democrats and independents, I didn't just say that independents are all Democrats, did I? The guy listed two groups as having ties to the tea parties, not ties to each other; and it certainly seems to be a valid statement that both of those groups have largely gravitated towards that movement. You make lots of hay about "neo-libs" and the like, and either you have both eyes closed, or you're deliberately trying to offend, right? I mean, that IS the claim you're making towards others here. Also, I really think you're over-thinking your whole "Nazi" thing. Occam's razor says all else being equal, the simpler explanation is usually the correct one. Did you ever ask yourself how the word "National" is pronounced in German? It's not the way we say it - "Nah-shun-nel", but more like "Not-see-ah-nahl-en". So take the first two syllables - "Not-see", and you get to "Nazi" pretty quickly.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:25 AM
Quote:Really, you just posted a defense of the NWO. are you sure about that?
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:55 AM
Quote:Open the other eye. You cannot see the insults which insult the right because you are not on the right. You tend to remark upon the insults which affect all humanity "asshole" etc. and those which effect the left "libtard" or those which effect a non partisan group "raghead" but you don't see, and often have used yourself things which offend the right. If someone were to say "Racist wingnut teabaggers like Rand Paul and Ron Paul" Will hit offensive on several levels.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:59 AM
THEHAPPYTRADER
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by TheHappyTrader: I gotta say, I think the "teabagger" thing is kinda offensive. I know they called themselves that for a brief time, but they don't anymore, and "teabagging" is kinda gross. It's like calling black people niggers and justifying it because black people have called themselves niggers on occasion. Don't like being called a nigger? Maybe they should be less of a nigger. While we're at it we can criticize their lifestyles and priorities using statistics to paint them with stereotypes. You might say people can't choose their race and that makes things different, but the fact remains that tea partiers (like afircan americans in the example) are a large group of people being targeted based off of 1 thing.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:34 AM
Quote:You miss a key point: Black people didn't coin the word "nigger" to describe themselves. That word was thrust upon them by white slave traders who viewed them as nothing more than animals to be worked to death and then discarded.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by TheHappyTrader: I gotta say, I think the "teabagger" thing is kinda offensive. I know they called themselves that for a brief time, but they don't anymore, and "teabagging" is kinda gross. It's like calling black people niggers and justifying it because black people have called themselves niggers on occasion. Don't like being called a nigger? Maybe they should be less of a nigger. While we're at it we can criticize their lifestyles and priorities using statistics to paint them with stereotypes. You might say people can't choose their race and that makes things different, but the fact remains that tea partiers (like afircan americans in the example) are a large group of people being targeted based off of 1 thing. You miss a key point: Black people didn't coin the word "nigger" to describe themselves. That word was thrust upon them by white slave traders who viewed them as nothing more than animals to be worked to death and then discarded.
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:27 PM
Quote: I don’t see “The tea party sure has attracted the birthers and truthers" as untrue;
Quote: I haven’t noticed the word “neolib” used, but “Most people today when you say neolib would apply the term to the folks who started the IMF, World Bank and WTO. I'm pretty sure that they're responsible for the destruction of the planet, oppression of the third world, etc.” is your opinion
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