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Obesity (and Sarah)

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Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:26 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Amazing...the woman is absolutely amazing. Take a serious subject, and someone who's trying to DO something about it, and turn it into a knock on the Obamas. She's weird!
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It's clear that we can't go 24 hours without Sarah Palin saying something so stupid that it defies logic, but leave it to the Kim Kardashian of politics to find something wrong with first lady Michelle Obama's effort to curb obesity in America's kids.
In a radio interview on Wednesday with conservative talker Laura Ingraham, Palin took dead aim at the first lady's "Let's Move" initiative, which is all about getting children active and involved in exercise and healthy eating.

In the wacky world of Wasilla's finest, Palin tries to cast the effort to fight obesity as part of Michelle Obama's "different worldview."

"Take her (Michelle Obama) anti-obesity thing that she is on. She is on this kick, right. What she is telling us is she cannot trust parents to make decisions for their own children, for their own families in what we should eat.

"And I know I'm going to be again criticized for bringing this up, but instead of a government thinking that they need to take over and make decisions for us according to some politician or politician's wife priorities, just leave us alone, get off our back and allow us as individuals to exercise our own God-given rights to make our own decisions and then our country gets back on the right track."

Hmmm. "Let's Move" is Obama's "kick?" Maybe someone should kick Sarah Palin so she can understand how devastating obesity is to the future of the United States.

According to the first lady's "Let's Move" website:

• Obesity rates among children have tripled in the last three decades, and one in three children are obese.

• One-third of all children born after 2000 will suffer from diabetes.

• Children are less active today than at any other time in American history, spending 7.5 hours a day watching TV, playing video games or simply involved in efforts that don't require movement.

• Obesity is contributing to the vast increase in hypertension among Americans.

Now, since Palin is always talking about our nation's military and how we have to honor them and show them love and affection, let's listen to what a group of generals said a few months ago about obesity and America's national defense.

A study released in April by Mission: Readiness, a nonprofit group of more than 150 retired generals and admirals, concluded that 27 percent of 18- to 24-year-olds are too fat to join the military.

The culprit? Junk food and too much fat in school lunches.

Said the study: "Today, otherwise excellent recruiting prospects, some of them with generations of sterling military service in their family history, are being turned away because they are just too overweight. Our standards are high because we clearly cannot have people in our command who are not up to the job. Too many lives depend on it."

In testimony before Congress, the former head of the California Army National Guard, retired U.S. Army Major Gen. Paul Monroe, said that "80 percent of children who were overweight between the ages of 10 to 15 were obese by age 25."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/11/24/martin.michelle.obama.palin/inde
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Always looking for a way to get in the news; always, no matter how stupid, looking for ways to diss the Obamas; she blows my mind. Does she ever even THINK before she opens her yap, or just say "ah-HAH!" and go for it?

Meanwhile, on the subject itself: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2010/11/06/nr.target.childhood
.obesity.cnn


and http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2010/11/06/nr.target.childhood
.obesity.cnn


It's a very real problem in our country...anyone interested?


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:52 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER


She does have a point that we should be able to trust parents to make the right decisions for their children. Unfortunately I'm not so sure how relevant it is to this issue. Public Schools are government funded and I don't see a problem with the government improving school lunch nutrition. If parents are that opposed to it they can always pack their kids lunches.

My only concern with the first lady's initiative is that it may (and I do mean may I'm not assuming this will be the case) focus too much on 'fatness' which is clearly observable and not enough on healthiness which ain't always so obvious. If we make this into an anti-fatness war, we make make a person's weight a mite stigmatizing.

Also, some folks can carry some extra lbs and still be healthy. I'm not sure that's possible with obesesity, but it still worth consideration. How do we intend to define 'healthy' and how do we intend to measure it?

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Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:57 AM

KANEMAN


Everything that milf said is spot on.....Well, it's true.

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Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:06 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Excellent points, Happy. The problem as I see it is that parents are NOT taking responsibility; in part I think that's because most people who are of an age to be parents grew up themselves in our "fatty" society, so have no grasp of how to do otherwise.

While waiting for our car at the dealership one day I watched a report on one family they tried to help. Both parents and all four kids were "morbidly obese", and they were trying to get them help. They ended up taking one of the sons into the doctor's, and sure enough, he was diabetic. The parents were deeply shocked, the mother in tears, and they wanted to do everything they could to solve the situation.

They did a follow-up; nothing had changed.

I see it in part as lack of education, lack of responsibility and a society which has been manipulated into an "instant gatification" mentality.

Something needs to be done; I'm not sure what the best answer is, or combination of best answers, but in my opinion, if the parents can't or won't deal with it, I'm not sure how else you DO. Schools are trying to help with the situation, but it takes more than that. So if not people like Michelle Obama taking it on as a project, what do you think is a viable alternative?


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Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:33 AM

CANTTAKESKY


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Originally posted by Niki2:
The problem as I see it is that parents are NOT taking responsibility; in part I think that's because most people who are of an age to be parents grew up themselves in our "fatty" society, so have no grasp of how to do otherwise.

On this point, I agree with Happy. An initiative like this, if not done carefully, only serves to stigmatize obese people as either irresponsible or ignorant about how to handle responsibility.

Fatty, sugary, unhealthy foods are cheaper than lean, organic, healthy foods. This is a point very effectively made in that documentary, Food Inc. There is a direct correlation between poverty and obesity. And I don't think it is because poor people are more irresponsible and ignorant.

We live in a culture that makes it very hard to deny the eating habit. It is akin to swimming upstream. Everything we see on TV and movies and lives around us says, "Feed your food addiction. Cause we make so much money off of it." You have to practically hermitize yourself to fight it.

So if this problem is so pervasive, why are some people skinny?

They are either rich, don't participate in the dominant culture, have a naturally high metabolism, or all of the above. Everyone else is screwed.

Note: I don't see an obesity problem in other countries, even when most of the population is poor. I'll have to address my thoughts on that in a separate post.

JMHO.

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:46 AM

KANEMAN


Nikki the last time you posted your pics here were you not a tad fat? That you are screaming about fatfucks and such, is hilarious, maybe you should start with you. I'm going to go have a steak and a beer. Ta Ta....

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Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:35 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree, CTTS, it's a thorny problem and, along with so many other things, would require major changes in our society, unfortunately...

I lost 35 pounds some time ago, so no, I'm not fat. I wasn't then, either, for my age, I just wear loose clothing, Morocco-style stuff. But I'm five pounds over my optimum weight for my height now, thank you.

Which, as usual, has nothing to do with the topic. Nice try...well, not really...




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