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Remember 'climategate'? OOPS - it was made up.
Saturday, January 8, 2011 12:16 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, January 8, 2011 12:47 PM
BYTEMITE
Quote:Earth is going to die in a fire.
Saturday, January 8, 2011 12:53 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Saturday, January 8, 2011 12:55 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:45 PM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: The whole debate is counterproductive.
Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:55 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Saturday, January 8, 2011 7:02 PM
DREAMTROVE
Saturday, January 8, 2011 7:24 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I swear to the non existant fucking NON god.........y2k was fucking BULL SHIT! ( save for the computer stuff...that was legit )
Quote: You fuck are god damn fucking m0-rons !
Sunday, January 9, 2011 6:38 AM
Monday, January 10, 2011 4:09 PM
KANEMAN
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: http://www.salon.com/news/global_warming/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/06/25/climategate_retraction "A version of our article that had been checked with Dr Lewis underwent significant late editing and so did not give a fair or accurate account of his views on these points. We apologise for this." Newspaper retracts "climategate" story, months too late Remember "climategate"? Someone hacked and distributed emails from climate scientists from the University of East Anglia. (It was kind of like Weigelgate except the entire Earth is going to die in a fire.) Some of the scientists used words like 'trick" and "hide." Instant scandal: Global warming is made up! A British newspaper has finally gotten around to correcting the record. It was obvious to anyone who actually bothered to read the stolen "climategate" emails that they didn't actually contain anything particularly scandalous, and they certainly didn't contain anything at all that remotely called into the question the legitimacy of years of science demonstrating the effect of human activity on climate change. But once the name "climategate" was affixed to the trumped-up non-scandal and printed in large type in a major newspaper, it didn't matter what the emails said. Not a whit. Emails, scandal, "-gate" -- there must be something to this! There wasn't. Amazingly, The Sunday Times of London has now effectively retracted its most damning stories on the manufactured outrage. Months too late, obviously. Via a Newsweek post by Sharon Begley, enjoy this description of how the Times ended up viciously misquoting a climate scientist: A version of our article that had been checked with Dr Lewis underwent significant late editing and so did not give a fair or accurate account of his views on these points. We apologise for this. The best editing errors are the ones that end up making stories support a predetermined conclusion, right? Anyway now that The Times has corrected the record, everyone will agree to do something about carbon emissions, right?
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Monday, January 10, 2011 7:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Where is that? You CLAIM it's there. You know exactly what was emailed, right?
Quote: http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=154&filename=942777075.txt From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> To: ray bradley <rbradley@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000 Cc: k.briffa@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,t.osborn@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm, Once Tim's got a diagram here we'll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow. I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998. Thanks for the comments, Ray. Cheers Phil Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx NR4 7TJ UK
Monday, January 10, 2011 8:24 PM
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Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Seriously - it looks like ADDING data and getting a more COMPLETE picture is the 'trick'. OOPS. Can't have that. It's all manner of worse than hiding data. Also, I hope you're OK with being Kaneman's cover. I was hoping Kaneman would be shown to be the FOX drone (and drunken profane Rap clone) he is.
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:54 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:31 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Also, I hope you're OK with being Kaneman's cover. I was hoping Kaneman would be shown to be the FOX drone (and drunken profane Rap clone) he is.
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