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Wettest ever period in recorded history

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:56 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Death toll rises across the world with floods in Australia, Brazil, Sri Lanka and the Philippines claiming scores of lives.

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As Queenslanders battle the state's worst flooding disaster in decades, countries around the world are also grappling with climatic chaos that has killed hundreds and affected millions more.

In Brazil, more than 500 people were killed when freakish storms in the mountainous area just north of Rio de Janeiro dumped the equivalent of a month's rain in just a few hours.

Flooding was so fierce in Sri Lanka that a dead elephant calf was discovered hanging high in a tree when waters receded.

Rescue workers search for victims after heavy rains caused mudslides in a low-income neughbourhood in Teresopolis, some 100 km from downtown Rio de Janeiro. Photo: AFP

Villagers discovered the calf near the Gal Oya river in northern Sri Lanka, which rose 5.5 metres above its normal height.

Thousands of animals, including elephants, water buffaloes and livestock are thought to have died in the floods.

Parts of Sri Lanka and the Philippines are also underwater, with scores killed in flash floods and mudslides and hundreds of thousands more displaced.

Dr David Jones, climate analyst with the Bureau of Meteorology, said Australia and Brazil's weather patterns were being affected by La Niña, which results in the cooling of the sea temperatures of the tropical Pacific Ocean.
The body of a baby elephant drowned in heavy floodwaters hangs from a tree in the north-central region of Habarana, Sri Lanka.

The body of a baby elephant drowned in heavy floodwaters hangs from a tree in the north-central region of Habarana, Sri Lanka.

This La Niña was the strongest in decades and one of the strongest of the past century, he said.

"There is definitely a link between our weather and eastern Brazil's," Dr Jones said.

"La Niña sets the atmosphere up for floods. It doesn't mean you get them, but certainly it makes the floods more likely, both in eastern Australia and in the north-east of Brazil where we do see usually above average rainfall during La Niña events."

New research released by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the US also showed 2010 was the wettest ever recorded on the planet, he said.

"That tells you the hydrological cycle is very, very active at the moment," Dr Jones said.

"We've seen a lot of evaporation, we've seen a lot of rainfall around the planet and as best as we can tell, the highest rainfall on record. It was also the hottest year on record, 2010.

"At a whole range of different levels there's certainly drivers which would support this view that the world is seeing a lot of extreme weather at the moment."

Brazil

Entire villages were flooded and hillside neighbourhoods collapsed overnight in Brazil's worst natural disaster in decades.

At least 500 people died and about 2700 lost houses in the mountainous cities of Nova Friburgo, Teresopolis and Petropolis, about 65 kilometres north of Rio.

Mudslides sliced through towns and hamlets, destroying homes, roads and bridges and knocking out telephone and power lines.

The death toll was expected to rise further as rescuers arrived in remote hamlets, many cut off to all but helicopter access.

Philippines

The death toll from a fortnight of heavy monsoon rains in central and southern Philippines has risen to 42, with an estimated 400,000 people displaced and more than one million affected by the sustained downpour.

Most of the dead either drowned or were buried by mudslides, Benito Ramos, head of the government's disaster agency, said.

Five people are still missing, including three fisherman.

The National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council said the rains - which became heavy at the start of the year - had affected 1.29 million people across 144 towns

About a third of the country's 80 provinces had been affected by the rains, which have destroyed roads and bridges, small rice and corn farms and houses made of light materials, Ramos said.

Sri Lanka

In eastern Sri Lanka, those displaced by the decades-long civil war and living in camps have now been made homeless for a second time by floods caused by days of heavy rain.

The death toll stands at 23 while an estimated 325,000 people have been forced out of their homes, with the torrential rain on the east coast forecast to continue.

The death toll is tipped to rise, as doctors brace for outbreaks of typhoid and diarrhoea as water supplies become contaminated.

Villages remain cut off from supplies despite a huge relief effort involving tens of thousands of troops.

Many villagers remain in their flooded homes despite a danger from snakes and crocodiles, while at least two people have been electrocuted.




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Friday, January 14, 2011 3:31 AM

KANEMAN


Grab a bucket

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Friday, January 14, 2011 4:13 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Australians are a sturdy breed and have a strong spirit. They will get through this catastrophe and rebuild. I wish them success.








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Friday, January 14, 2011 5:13 AM

CANTTAKESKY


2010 was also the year for the Pakistani floods, the South China floods, the Ugandan landslide triggered by heavy rains, the spring China drought, the Russian fires, the Haiti earthquake, the Icelandic volcanic eruption, and the Indonesian volcanic eruption.

The amount of suffering we have seen this last year from natural disasters is devastating.

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Friday, January 14, 2011 9:28 AM

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http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg




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Friday, January 14, 2011 9:03 PM

CANTTAKESKY


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-14/more-rain-forecast-for-brazil
-as-floods-mudslides-kill-511-in-rio-state.html


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Brazil’s most-deadly natural disaster may worsen as heavy rain in coming weeks threatens to cause more mudslides and hinder rescue efforts after at least 538 people died in Rio de Janeiro state.

Petropolis, Teresopolis and Nova Friburgo, cities in the mountainous area about 65 kilometers (40 miles) north of Rio, were the hardest hit this week as heavy rain sent earth and rocks rolling down hillside communities and swollen rivers swept away houses. A cold front stationed in the region and a weather system bringing humidity from the Amazon will continue to produce persistent rain, Brazil’s Agriculture Ministry said....



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Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:18 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


CNN: Snow in 49 states covering 60% of USA this week...

Only a Global Warming Tax can save Al Gore and the jew banksters!

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Death toll rises across the world with floods in Australia...



Weather Control experiments to "counteract" the drought last year...which was also caused by WX Control experiments. Great for ethnic clensing...ask New Orleans.

Scientists Create 52 Artificial Rain Storms in Abu Dhabi Desert
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/03/scientists-create-52-artificial-ra
in-storms-in-abu-dhabi-desert
/

Weather radar shows something unusual around time birds fell
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid34757275001?bckey=AQ~~
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http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=137071&provider
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Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


So many millions have suffered this year from flooding, my heart goes out to them, too.

Somehow I knew PN would show up in this thread to crow about anti-global warming. Surprised it took him so long.

Actually got as far as a few sentences into the George Carlin thing...started to watch it because it WAS George Carlin, tho' I kind of knew what it would be. It was, predictably...while I like Carlin and admire his brain, we differ on a number of things.

Stopped when he got to the point that trying to save endangered species was another "arrogant" attempt by humans to control nature. I call bullpucky. We HAVE controlled some of nature in the worst way and changed the balance of things in negative ways WHICH WILL AFFECT US eventually. Things which are going extinct every day are at places in the food chain which are already affecting our species; the more that goes extinct, the closer it gets to causing OUR extinction, whether anyone recognizes it or not.


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Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:42 AM

BYTEMITE


I have to admit I'm vaguely intrigued by PN's weather control experiment explanation, with the caveat my guess is it would be difficult to prove.

I also don't see how it could cause the death of those birds and the fish, but there's a lot of seeming inexplicable natural disaster phenomenon going on. At this point I'm willing to entertain some very outlandish theories if it could help make sense of all this.

I can't say climate is my field, I'm in environmental clean up, but that's more hydrology and chemistry. So when they say that there's been lots of evaporation (which would in my mind suggest high ocean surface temperatures), and La Nina conditions (cold ocean surface conditions), I have to confess myself confused.

Either way, I can't help the feeling that something is going very wrong.

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Either way, I can't help the feeling that something is going very wrong.
Ditto


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Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:04 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Weather radar shows "something" at the same time as the Arkansas blackbird die-off. Watch the video.

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=137071&provider
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So it's something detectable and measurable on radar, and it can cause blunt force trauma.

I followed up on PN's links on the Abu Dhabi rain technology. It's legit. But I don't think the technology as consistent with the bird/fish die-off. It might offer an explanation for the increased rainfall, but there are so many other explanations that are more parsimonious, I don't see the need to resort to this speculation for the floods.



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Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:25 AM

NIKI2

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Hmmmm...interesting. I caught the bit about witnesses saying the birds were flying low at that time, but who knows?

I know; it's a cloaked Romulan ship. Or the Enterprise back to get another whale...

Go for it, PN...(Has he given us a conspiracy theory for this one yet?)


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Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:28 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Who says you can't have fun in the floods.

River rescue as sex toy ditches rider
Thomas Hunter
January 17, 2011 - 6:31AM

A bizarre decision to ride an inflatable doll down a flood-swollen Yarra River blew up in a woman’s face yesterday when she lost her latex playmate in a rough patch.

The incident prompted a warning from police that blow-up sex toys are "not recognised flotation devices’’.

Police and a State Emergency Services crew were called to the rescue when the woman and a man, both 19, struck trouble at Warrandyte North about 4.30pm yesterday.

They were floating down the river on two inflatable dolls and had just passed the Pound Bend Tunnel when the woman lost her toy in turbulent water.

She clung to a floating tree, calling for help while the man stayed with her. Fortunately for the pair, a passer-by called triple zero while while a kayaker took life jackets to the pair. Police and the SES crew hauled the water-logged thrillseekers to safety.
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But, with Queensland in the grip of a deadly emergency and 50 rescues from flood waters around Victoria in the past week, police were not amused at the pair's "stupid" actions.

‘‘We’ve got people busy with rescues and to have to divert resources to that sort of thing is not ideal," said Senior Constable Wayne Wilson

‘‘Most rescue organisations would frown on people behaving in such a manner because there are people out there who are in genuine need of assistance,’’ he said.

The rescued pair were checked by ambulance officers but did not require medical attention.

‘‘The fate of the inflatable dolls is unknown,’’ said Senior Constable Wilson.

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:38 AM

NIKI2

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"not recognised flotation devices"...I love it!

So they weren't fleeing the floods, they were just screwing around? Given both are safe: Served them right, idjits!


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Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:17 PM

BYTEMITE


I'm not sure that we know that for certain. If someone was trying to escape the flood, and saw they had these blow up dolls, and thought they could serve as flotation devices, and their lives were in danger, I can't see that they'd care.

It doesn't say they found either woman or man naked, which, if it's blow up dolls and thrill seeking is more what I would expect. I think maybe they were just plain stigmatized by circumstances, until we know more.

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:09 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Byte, you are sweet and innocent. The Yarra is in Melbourne, and although we have some flooding, not catastrophically like the Northern states. These people were just having a laugh.

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:26 PM

BYTEMITE


*cough and hemming and hawing*

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Monday, January 17, 2011 5:28 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Byte, you are sweet and innocent. The Yarra is in Melbourne, and although we have some flooding, not catastrophically like the Northern states. These people were just having a laugh.

I'm not sweet and innocent, but I thought the same thing, that it was a flooding emergency, and they got creative.

Normally, I would say how funny. But considering the rescuers are REALLY busy right now, it's pretty horrible judgment.

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Monday, January 17, 2011 10:27 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


From the article cited, it appeared they were on a lark, and it pissed the rescuers off to be diverted when there were people REALLY needing help. I started to think the same kind of "desperate situation" scenario too, until I read the whole thing. I'm guessing if the rescuers were pissed, they KNEW it was a lark, otherwise they wouldn't have been angry. Just my guess.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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I also don't see how it could cause the death of those birds and the fish, but there's a lot of seeming inexplicable natural disaster phenomenon going on. At this point I'm willing to entertain some very outlandish theories if it could help make sense of all this.
Why be outlandish? We total almost 7 billion. We've trashed the planet and changed the climate. What's to wonder about???

A few million years from now, assuming another intelligent species arises, they'll be digging down through the rock and come across a strange layer. There will be mercury and lead and cadmium and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and soot and traces of chlorinated and fluorinated compounds everywhere, and evidence of acidified warmed ocean water, and big piles of rust and cementitious materials and strips of bitumen, and a sudden cessation of many species and they will wonder what happened. And someone will propose the outlandish theory that a clever species did this TO ITSELF. Which of course will be laughed down.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:39 AM

DMAANLILEILTT


I agree that the theory will be laughed down. Mostly because something couldn't possibly consider us "clever".

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:50 AM

BYTEMITE


Blunt Force Trauma to hundreds to thousands of birds while in flight that then drop to the group and messily splatter may or may not be a climate change thing. Honestly, unless we're seeing some truly insane cloud formations and/or wind shear effect, I can't think how the two can be related. But maybe you have an idea.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:21 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I can't conceive of blaming climate change/global warming for this stuff for a minute; makes no sense.

But oh, how I loved (and mentally wept over) your description, Sig. Whatever we may disagree on, it's nice to know that on one subject, there's someone who feels as I do.

And the first question is: WILL another "intelligent" (I use the term advisedly) species arise? From what I hear, if anything at all survives, it will be the insects. Yuck...giant, intelligent bugs!


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:25 AM

BYTEMITE


Hey, some bugs are nice. Ladybugs eat aphids, human civilization would crash without the honey bee, and both bugs and fungus are an important part of decomposing dead material and returning the nutrients to the ground.

*chitter*

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Friday, January 21, 2011 10:35 AM

NIKI2

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Oh, unquestionably Byte. It was just a snark at insects and memory of many sci-fi movies :biggin:

You of all people should know how I feel about balance of nature and how useful most bugs are, eh?

I love ladybugs, and many other insects. I swat yellow jackets in Summer 'cuz they kill bees, etc., etc.

I even feel for worms; in heavy storms, I'll "relocate" them from the road/path, and yesterday I cleaned my pond. There are always a LOT of worms at the bottom...they don't seem to be too bright about where they go!...and I take the time to carefully haul each still-living one out (there are few dead ones, I think the fish eat them) and relocate them into the garden.

What surprised me was when I found out how many OTHER people "relocate" worms...I thought I was the only weird one.

So I like little crawling beasties, with some exceptions. Potato bugs and pincher bugs (can't remember the name right now) are among the exceptions, tho' I lived in harmony with the silverfish in the little attic room I inhabited as a kid (to escape the constant nastiness of mom towared dad).


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Friday, January 21, 2011 11:33 AM

BYTEMITE


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What surprised me was when I found out how many OTHER people "relocate" worms...I thought I was the only weird one.



I do this too.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 12:36 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


See? I'd expect it of you, and maybe Sig, but when I've mentioned it, here, on other forums and in talking to others, it's made me giggle to find out just how MANY of us there are.

Says something I suppose, but I'm not sure what. For me I know it's the sanctity of all life, but I can't speak for anyone else.


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