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Thursday, April 7, 2011 1:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


David Prosser gains huge lead in corrected Wisconsin Supreme Court election results

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WAUKESHA, Wis. — A conservative-leaning Wisconsin county on Thursday corrected its count and gave an unofficial 7,500-vote lead to the incumbent in the hotly contested state Supreme Court race seen as a referendum on Republican Gov. Scott Walker's divisive union rights law.
Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus said the votes weren't reported to The Associated Press on Tuesday due to "human error."

"This is not a case of extra votes or extra ballots being found," she said. "This is human error, which I apologize for."

Before the announcement, it was assumed 68-year-old conservative Justice David Prosser's race against liberal assistant state attorney general JoAnne Kloppenburg was headed for a recount. But Prosser's lead is likely to stand if the new numbers hold up through canvassing in all of Wisconsin's 72 counties.







" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 4:24 PM

KANEMAN


That is great.

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Friday, April 8, 2011 2:32 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yeah, and the TEA party is losing support, huh?

Crassic.


Give credit to the worker's party folks. They've learned a few lessons since trying to steal Florida, in 2000. It's far easier to ' set aside' a bunch of votes, and hope no one finds them, than it is to phony up a stack of butterfly ballots.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, April 8, 2011 3:16 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Getting pretty desperate I guess, aren't we? To cheer that a candidate who was 30 points behind less than a month ago and had no chance whatsoever was just narrowly beaten by the incumbent “guaranteed win” candidate is pretty sad.

Also, there’s these:
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Chris Abele - a 44-year-old philanthropist and political neophyte - handily defeated state Rep. Jeff Stone (R-Greendale) at the polls Tuesday to become the next Milwaukee County executive.

Abele had 61% of the vote to 39% for Stone

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/119299589.html

Let's see, a Walker cronie, who voted for the bill, who was sure to win the very seat VACATED by Walker himself, is slaughtered 61-39. Hoo-kay...

(Oh, and Walker dismissed it, saying it was a "very blue" district...which of course would NEVER vote for a Republican...like Scott Walker, who they elected last time. Uh, huh)
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Wisconsin Democrats have amassed enough support to force the first recall election of a Republican state senator who voted for a law that reduces public sector union powers, an organizer said on Friday.

More than 20,000 residents from Republican state Senator Dan Kapanke's district around La Crosse, Wisconsin, signed petitions seeking a recall election, said Pat Scheller, who organized the committee.

"There certainly has been a great groundswell of involvement and commitment," Scheller said in a telephone interview. "A lot of people are very passionate about this."

A Kapanke representative could not be reached for comment.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/01/us-wisconsin-recalls-idUSTRE
7306BS20110401
] Wisconsin Democrats announced that they had enough signatures to recall Kapanke and filed petitions that day, with 22,561 signatures, 45% more than the 15,588 verifiable signatures required by the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board (GAB). A March 9, 2011 poll by Survey USA indicates that 57% voters in Kapanke's district would vote for recall.

Wikipedia
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Wisconsin Democrats said they have gathered enough signatures to recall a Republican senator because of his vote on Gov. Scott Walker’s bill that cuts most collective bargaining rights for state employees.

Organizers on Thursday turned in more than the 15,629 signatures needed to start the recall for Fond du Lac Sen. Randy Hopper.

They presented the Government Accountability Board with over 22,500 signatures to trigger a recall election. Hopper now joins a short list of senators with a realistic chance of losing a recall election.

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/27465517/detail.html

And gee whiz, they sure did it up royally. A little later:
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Wisconsin Democrats collected nearly 22,561 signatures in their effort to recall Sen. Dan Kapanke. That's nearly 7,000 more than they needed to launch a recall, and insurance against efforts by Kapanke's lawyers to challenge and potentially throw out some of the collected signatures. In a sign of buyer's remorse among Wisconsin voters, the time it took gather enough signatures to recall Kapanke was the fastest in Wisconsin history.

The next Wisconsin senator to face a recall effort is Republican Randy Hopper. In the Hopper recall effort, Sargent writes, progressives have collected almost 24,000 signatures—150 percent of the necessary 15,629 signatures, a staggering feat that comes scarcely a month after the Wisconsin Senate first passed Republican Governor Scott Walker's controversial anti-union bill.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/wisconsin-recall-campaigns-bag-rec
ord-number-signatures


I wouldn’t start crowing juuuuust yet...

...tho' I WOULD agree with "On Wisconsin!"


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Friday, April 8, 2011 3:28 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


By the way, try the facts sometime, just for a change of pace:
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The clerk in a heavily Republican county reversed the election for a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice when she announced that she'd failed to hit "save" on her computer when reporting votes, and so had 14,315 extra ballots yet to be counted. Those votes went heavily in favor of Republican Justice David Prosser, putting him ahead of union-backed challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg by 7,582 votes after trailing her by only 204. Prosser hailed the new votes, but Kloppenburg supporters cried foul, pointing out that the clerk, Kathy Nickolaus, had worked in the Assembly Republican caucus when Prosser served as the Assembly speaker.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/lost-ballots-put-republi
can-justice-ahead/wisconsin/?cid=cs:headline18


If there’s any question about those votes, I’d like to see how you can accuse Democrats of “hiding” or “setting them aside”. The evidence seems to show the opposite, hmmmmm? You're saying this woman was a Democrat, are you?

I understand your inability to conceive of reality, but before hurling accusations, please shut up about what you don't know. Thank you.


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Friday, April 8, 2011 4:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


There's more than just a few questions about these suddenly-found "votes" - particularly how they'll square with Wisconsin election law, which states that there must be a paper trail for any electronic ballot that is to be considered.

This one's going to get drawn out for a while, it seems.



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, April 8, 2011 4:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Give credit to the corporate party GOP folks. They've learned a few lessons since stealing Florida, in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. It's far easier to ' find' a bunch of votes, mysteriously entered into a standalone computer not hooked up to the voting system used by the rest of the state, and hope no one notices them, than it is to legitimately win an election.




Fixed that for ya.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, April 8, 2011 4:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Give credit to the extreme far LEft wing moveon.org folks. They've learned a few lessons since trying to steal Florida, in 2000 and Washington in 2006. It's far easier to ' find' a bunch of votes, ....




Fixed that for ya.



Fixed your false fix for ya.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, April 8, 2011 4:44 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Give credit to the extreme far LEft wing moveon.org folks. They've learned a few lessons since stealing Florida, in 2000 and Washington in 2006. It's far easier to ' find' a bunch of votes, ....




Fixed that for ya.



Fixed your false fix for ya.



Your shipment of FAIL has arrived.



Your "fix" now claims that MoveOn.org stole Florida in 2000.

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Friday, April 8, 2011 4:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Friday, April 8, 2011 5:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The fail is yours.

Lick it up.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, April 8, 2011 5:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/wisconsin_election_o
fficials_t.html


More scrutiny for those "found" votes.




So ? How is that remotely a story ?

Dog barks at night...

Sun rises in East...

yawn


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, April 9, 2011 6:37 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Gawd, Raptor, you are such a waste. All you seem to be able to do is crow about any potential positive for the right and blame the left for things you can either not prove, or were the opposite of what you claim. I don't know why anyone bothers to respond to your idiocy. You seem to be here for no other reason than and as well as to ANYONE who doesn't agree with your cemented, "the right can do no wrong" mentality. You rarely have anything of substance to contribute, and your arguments come down to "did not", "did too", "did not", "did too" most of the time, sidetracking the conversation, nothing more. It's a pain in the ass.

I think there are definitely questions around this, it's just too weird and too convenient and timely.
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After the first results were sent she said the county requested a second set of data because they wanted results tabulated in a certain format with fewer columns.
Why? If they'd already been counted, what difference did it make to the county what format it was in?
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Nickolaus explained that when she got Brookfield's results the second time in the correct format, she failed to save it. So when she totaled the results for the unofficial final report Tuesday, Brookfield's total was not included and she didn't realize it.

She discovered the error Wednesday when she transferred her data to a state computer program for the canvassers' review.

That's weird, to me, and
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she failed to save on her computer and then report 14,315 votes in the city of Brookfield, omitting them entirely in an unofficial total she released after Tuesday's election.
is even weirder. It may all turn out to be on the up and up, but I hope they verify that by an INDEPENDENT party. Whether there was something wrong or not, this lady shouldn't be in charge of this stuff...how and why did she TOTALLY erase them?? I think there are questions that need answering.

Which in no way changes the fact that a virtual unknown less than a month ago, came that close (if it turns out to be legit) to defeating a shoe-in candidate. Win or not, the message is very clear, especially combined with the other election results which were even more closely tied to Walker. To crow at this point is hilarous, given the facts. The referendum on Walker is clear as glass, and we can only wait to see where it goes from here. I suspect what people are feeling right now about what Walker's done isn't going away any time soon.




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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Saturday, April 9, 2011 6:45 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The fail is yours.

Lick it up.




You mean this fail, that you posted?

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Give credit to the extreme far LEft wing moveon.org folks. They've learned a few lessons since stealing Florida, in 2000 and Washington in 2006. It's far easier to ' find' a bunch of votes, ....


Yeah, I really failed when I pointed out your idiocy for claiming that MoveOn "stole" the election in Florida in 2000. Boy, you really showed me.


Not.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, April 9, 2011 9:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki - the commie lovin' candidate lost, and that is a very good thing.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, April 9, 2011 12:53 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, gawd (wipes tear); your mentality sometimes absolutely slays me!


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Sunday, April 10, 2011 6:59 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Niki2:
Oh, gawd (wipes tear); your mentality sometimes absolutely slays me!



Stating truth makes you laugh ?

Huh.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:46 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, and the TEA party is losing support, huh?

Crassic.


Give credit to the worker's party folks. They've learned a few lessons since trying to steal Florida, in 2000. It's far easier to ' set aside' a bunch of votes, and hope no one finds them, than it is to phony up a stack of butterfly ballots.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "


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Saturday, April 16, 2011 5:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, and the TEA party is losing support, huh?

Crassic.


Give credit to the worker's party folks. They've learned a few lessons since trying to steal Florida, in 2000. It's far easier to ' set aside' a bunch of votes, and hope no one finds them, than it is to phony up a stack of butterfly ballots.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "





Is there an echo in here, Rappy?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, April 17, 2011 8:08 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Don't know what happened that day, but the site didn't allow my full, lengthy post. Haven't had time to compose it all over again. Sorry.

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