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The Adventures of Tintin

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Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:47 AM

HAKEN

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Steven Spielberg is back and for a few seconds there I thought this was a live action movie. See for yourself.






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Saturday, May 28, 2011 1:47 PM

WHOZIT


I know that you own this site (God love ya) but stop this, stop it now! If ya don't then give me $5.

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Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:46 PM

HAKEN

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Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I know that you own this site (God love ya) but stop this, stop it now! If ya don't then give me $5.


Not a Spielberg fan?


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Sunday, May 29, 2011 1:31 AM

LWAVES


Spielberg and Jackson?
What's not to love?
I thought it was live action too until I remembered reading otherwise. I do have to wonder how much of a wide audience this will appeal too. If it turns out good then maybe it will grab the younger audiences but I can't see them being interested in a story like this. Seems to me that it may appeal to older viewers more but we'll just have to wait and see.



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Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:46 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by lwaves:
I do have to wonder how much of a wide audience this will appeal too. If it turns out good then maybe it will grab the younger audiences but I can't see them being interested in a story like this. Seems to me that it may appeal to older viewers more but we'll just have to wait and see.

I think you're right here Lwaves. But I also think that's a good thing really. There are enough 'superhero' adaptations out there; so why not cater to a comic book hero who isn't imbued with some mighty atomic power.

I always favoured Asterix and would really have loved it if someone with Spielbergs abilities gave that a go, but alas it's been reduced to nothing but farce and stupidity by lesser directors which is a real shame, as I think this Tintin film will go to show just what they could have done.

I have to say though. From what I've seen I'm a little confused by the visuals. It's almost like it's gone too realistic...





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Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:23 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:
Originally posted by HAKEN:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I know that you own this site (God love ya) but stop this, stop it now! If ya don't then give me $5.


Not a Spielberg fan?


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Steve is OK but don't forget he gave us that dud "AI". I think Hollywood is over doing it with CGI and 3-D, plus the flick looks kinda stupid. The main reason I couldn't stand "Speed Racer" was because they really over did it with the CGI.

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Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:13 AM

HAKEN

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Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Steve is OK but don't forget he gave us that dud "AI". I think Hollywood is over doing it with CGI and 3-D, plus the flick looks kinda stupid. The main reason I couldn't stand "Speed Racer" was because they really over did it with the CGI.


I have always thought of "AI" as a Stanley Kubrick film and not a Steven Spielberg film and rather liked it as such. It's a science fiction drama just like Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey' is a drama, which is a stark contrast from Steven Spielberg's more action filled 'Minority Report' that came out the following year.

As for 'Speed Racer', the Wachowski brothers just went totally in the wrong direction. Imagine what kind of movie we might have had if someone like Justin Lin of the 'Fast and the Furious' franchise had made it. I'm not saying that it'll end up being better, but it'll definitely have a different sensibility that could have turned the film into a more successful adaptation.

As for 'Tintin' looking stupid. It's Tintin. A lot of people love reading Tintin. Just like a lot of people love reading the works of Will Eisner. Yeah, it's not Marvel comics material, but I think it's great that someone like Spielberg is re-introducing that classic material to a new generation.

Having said that, I don't know if it was the right decision for Spielberg to go CGI. He did make 'Empire of the Sun', which I liked a lot, so I know he could have done a live action Tintin had he wanted to, but given the source material, I can at least understand his motivation for not doing so.



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Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:37 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Anyone who thinks "A. I." was a dud is a dud themselves.



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Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:05 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:
Originally posted by HAKEN:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Steve is OK but don't forget he gave us that dud "AI". I think Hollywood is over doing it with CGI and 3-D, plus the flick looks kinda stupid. The main reason I couldn't stand "Speed Racer" was because they really over did it with the CGI.


I have always thought of "AI" as a Stanley Kubrick film and not a Steven Spielberg film and rather liked it as such. It's a science fiction drama just like Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey' is a drama, which is a stark contrast from Steven Spielberg's more action filled 'Minority Report' that came out the following year.

As for 'Speed Racer', the Wachowski brothers just went totally in the wrong direction. Imagine what kind of movie we might have had if someone like Justin Lin of the 'Fast and the Furious' franchise had made it. I'm not saying that it'll end up being better, but it'll definitely have a different sensibility that could have turned the film into a more successful adaptation.

As for 'Tintin' looking stupid. It's Tintin. A lot of people love reading Tintin. Just like a lot of people love reading the works of Will Eisner. Yeah, it's not Marvel comics material, but I think it's great that someone like Spielberg is re-introducing that classic material to a new generation.

Having said that, I don't know if it was the right decision for Spielberg to go CGI. He did make 'Empire of the Sun', which I liked a lot, so I know he could have done a live action Tintin had he wanted to, but given the source material, I can at least understand his motivation for not doing so.



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"AI" and "Eyes Wide Shut" were both finished after Kubrick was dead, this is all CGI.

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Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:54 AM

HAKEN

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Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
"AI" and "Eyes Wide Shut" were both finished after Kubrick was dead, this is all CGI.


I'm pretty sure "Eyes Wide Shut" was Kubrick's last film before he died, not after. "AI" was made from material Kubrick had and was told and shot in Kubrick's style by Spielberg as a tribute to Kubrick.

As for Tintin, it's probably CGI because Tintin was a comic book character from a classic comic strip, which was my point. I'm only speculating, but Spielberg probably didn't want to make a 'Dennis the Menace.'



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Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:10 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:
Originally posted by HAKEN:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
"AI" and "Eyes Wide Shut" were both finished after Kubrick was dead, this is all CGI.


I'm pretty sure "Eyes Wide Shut" was Kubrick's last film before he died, not after. "AI" was made from material Kubrick had and was told and shot in Kubrick's style by Spielberg as a tribute to Kubrick.

As for Tintin, it's probably CGI because Tintin was a comic book character from a classic comic strip, which was my point. I'm only speculating, but Spielberg probably didn't want to make a 'Dennis the Menace.'



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Monday, May 30, 2011 2:31 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


How is this any different that any other animated film being produced today?

CGI is just like any other tool in the filmmaker's world. It can be used well or poorly, depending on the director and the SFX house used. I defy you to tell me that the CGI in Firefly and Serenity was poorly used. Plus, most of the SF/F films being made today would be next to impossible to achieve if it was not for CGI, not only in execution but also because of expense.



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Monday, May 30, 2011 2:45 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
How is this any different that any other animated film being produced today?

CGI is just like any other tool in the filmmaker's world. It can be used well or poorly, depending on the director and the SFX house used. I defy you to tell me that the CGI in Firefly and Serenity was poorly used. Plus, most of the SF/F films being made today would be next to impossible to achieve if it was not for CGI, not only in execution but also because of expense.


In this case the whole thing is CGI, when they can reproduce the voices, actors and stuntmen will no longer be needed. Would you get excited about a CGI car chase? It isn't real.

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Monday, May 30, 2011 3:06 AM

ECGORDON

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Originally posted by whozit:
It isn't real.

You do realize that nothing in any movie is actually real, right? Do you get exited about a car chase in a movie even though you know it is all done with stunt drivers, is well choreographed ahead of time, and probably contains some CGI as well?



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Monday, May 30, 2011 9:03 AM

KWICKO

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Zit, did you get excited watching our BDH being chased by Reavers?


That was all CGI, you realize...

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Monday, May 30, 2011 10:48 AM

WHOZIT


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Zit, did you get excited watching our BDH being chased by Reavers?


That was all CGI, you realize...
My point is (brilliant) that soon CGI will replace real humans and places, soon all we'll have are these glorified cartoons. This will make the studios and TV networks happy because CGI actors and actress's can't ask for a raise, or go insane like Chucky Sheen.

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Monday, May 30, 2011 2:59 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


They need to start CGI-ing all those rom-coms Jen Aniston and Kate Hudson subject us to. It could only improve them.



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Monday, May 30, 2011 3:46 PM

HAKEN

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Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
They need to start CGI-ing all those rom-coms Jen Aniston and Kate Hudson subject us to. It could only improve them.


Dang, I thought they had already done that when "The Sims: Superstar" came out.

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Monday, May 30, 2011 6:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
They need to start CGI-ing all those rom-coms Jen Aniston and Kate Hudson subject us to. It could only improve them.





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Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:01 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Unusual choice by Speilberg to go with this realistic-looking CGI version of the classic, but I could understand his motivation. He's taking a big chance that this well appeal to a wide audience, but I think he's banking on his name and rep as one of our best directors in recent times. Good for him - so many have said that Hollywood is scared shitless to try anything new, well Speilberg is taking a shot (a longshot).

But I bet he's thinking that those of us who read and followed Tin Tin's adventures back in the day will drag our kids to the theatre to see what we did (count me among those Tin Tin fans). He's rolling the dice, you gotta give him credit for that if nothing else. Of course, I'm hating on the 3D bandwagon that everyone is jumping on, it's just not done well on a consistent basis for my taste. I'm sticking with good old 2D for now (Avatar was the exception, that was well done IMHO).


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Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:41 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by HAKEN:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
"AI" and "Eyes Wide Shut" were both finished after Kubrick was dead, this is all CGI.


I'm pretty sure "Eyes Wide Shut" was Kubrick's last film before he died, not after. "AI" was made from material Kubrick had and was told and shot in Kubrick's style by Spielberg as a tribute to Kubrick.

As for Tintin, it's probably CGI because Tintin was a comic book character from a classic comic strip, which was my point. I'm only speculating, but Spielberg probably didn't want to make a 'Dennis the Menace.'


Not to support whozit over haken, which you know I would never do for any reason other than that I thought he was right, but...
(All of this is from memory, that said)

IIRC, Kubrick died after filming but before editing was complete on Eyes, as for AI, Kubrick had actually shelved the project some time ago. Spielberg IIRC used Kubrick's script as far as it went, which was not all that far into the movie. I think the boy had run away from home and the audience had been introduced to the sexbot.

Also, IIRC, Spielberg also wrote and asked for additional material from Brian Aldiss for anything that would be able to extend Supertoys last all summer long into a feature length story, which was one of the major problems that had made Kubrick abandon the project. I recall he paid Aldiss one million dollars for the letter afterwords, though the letter was largely dismissing the idea that there was a film in the story, but did include a list of possibilities which he could think of, and I think spielberg only used one of them, which was

Select to view spoiler:

the boys quest for humanity takes him to the end of the world, and he finds the factory with all of the clones of himself. This story idea ends with him at the bottom of the sea.

The epilogue with the aliens is pure spielberg but anyone with even a shred of filmmaking instinct already figured that one out about 0.9 seconds after it started.

If I were to break this story down as content:

The first part, getting the replacement boy is really primarily Aldiss (plus Kubrick/Spielberg.) After the boy leaves and seas the wild world, it's Kubrick/Spielberg. Starting with the robot carnival it starts to be more heavily Spielberg, the story continues with a Kubrick's gigolo and the boy, and then the end scene is Aldiss' and the epilogue is Spielberg's.

Eyes Wide Shut is basically Kubrick, there have been a couple questions of editing choices, but the intent to leave you with the feeling that this world is real but you're supposed to believe it's not remains basically in tact. Someone I know from my little corner of nowhere was in that film.




About Tintin, it would seem a natural for animation, and if you wanted to do it live, it would cost a fortune. It will have a huge audience because it already has a huge following. Remember, like Asterix, this is a European comic, so while they may seem like comic geek stuff to us, it's not so fringe to the rest of the world.


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