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State, local layoffs to hit record levels

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Sunday, June 26, 2011 10:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Been off line for days; computer got "fixed", but then the moterhboard died! Hours and HOURS on the phone dealing with Dell resulted in me being a total mess from frustration, but no closer to getting a motherboard. So Jim said, since I spend so much time on line, better to pull the money from savings and get a new computer (which I DID NOT want...sigh). So we did. THEN I couldn't hook up to the internet (a problem we've had before), which meant more hours and hours on the phone with AT&T yesterday, and again this morning, before we finally solved it. I've MISSED being here, but I'm back and will go back to looking for things of interest we might enjoy discussing. That said:

THIS is what pisses me off lately; the new hard-right governors, legislators, etc., ACT like they believe (I'm not convinced they do, but have ulterior motives) that government jobs like teachers, firemen, etc., and unions are to blame for all the ills in our country, and are out to destroy them. That, together with all the government cuts, have left state and city governments suffering on many different levels. This is just one of them.

In point of fact, after hollering "jobs jobs jobs", what the Republicans have DONE is to force the LOSS of jobs, and done nothing to create new ones. It sickens me.
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Metro economies struggling the most to recover from the Great Recession typically lost government jobs, a new Brookings Institution report found.

Fourteen of the 20 metro areas that have performed the worst since the start of the nation's economic troubles lost government jobs, according to the report, published Wednesday.

They include: Bridgeport, Conn.; Cleveland; Detroit; Grand Rapids, Mich.; Las Vegas; Minneapolis; New Orleans; North Port, Fla.; Palm Bay, Fla.; Phoenix; Riverside, Calif.; Sacramento, Calif., and Toledo, Ohio.

These areas include: Allentown, Pa.; Buffalo, N.Y.; Chicago; Dayton, Ohio; Detroit; Greensboro, N.C.; Harrisburg, Pa.; Las Vegas; Pittsburgh; Portland, Ore.; Providence. R.I., and Scranton, Pa.

Many of these struggling metro areas have other problems, such as falling home prices and rising unemployment overall. But the loss of government jobs has only added to their woes.

Conversely, many metro areas that have done well in recent years have experienced growth in government jobs, the report found.

The study is the latest in a series of warnings from experts who say that cutting deeply into public payrolls can hinder the economic revival.

"This is not the time to be shrinking the size of government," said Howard Wial, a Brookings fellow and co-author of the report. "We're in a very precarious recovery. If we shrink the size of government right now, we'll only make that recovery more precarious."

State and local officials, not to mention members of Congress, have been tripping over themselves to reduce government payrolls.

State and local payrolls have shrunk by an average of 23,000 jobs a month over the past three months, while federal payrolls have stayed essentially flat. Meanwhile, the private sector has created an average of 180,000 a month during the same period.

The worst is yet to come. State and local governments are forecast to shed up to 110,000 jobs in the third quarter, according to IHS Global Insight. That would be the first time above 100,000 job cuts in just one quarter.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/22/news/economy/government_jobs/index.htm
?cnn=yes&hpt=hp_bn4


And here's the result:
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Don't look to state and local governments to prop up the job market.

To the contrary, this cash-strapped sector is set to go on a record-breaking layoff binge when the new fiscal year starts on July 1.

"We're on a downward path," said Greg Daco, principal U.S. economist at IHS. "It's not looking good."

State and local government employment has been a drag on the economy all year, averaging a loss of 23,000 jobs a month over the past three months. Meanwhile, the private sector has created an average of 180,000 a month during the same period.

In May, public employment shrunk by 29,000 jobs, mostly at the state and local level, while businesses created 83,000 jobs, the Labor Department reported Friday. All told, the sector has lost 510,000 positions since its peak in August 2008.

States still cutting
Though tax revenue is starting to rise, states are still wrestling with multi-billion-dollar budget gaps. Federal stimulus funds helped minimize job cuts until now, but that money essentially runs out on June 30.

So states are planning to slash funds for education, social services and local governments, as well as downsize their payrolls even more, in the coming fiscal year.

And that's the good news.

The bad news is that local governments are in even worse shape. Not only are they losing state aid, but they are finally feeling the fallout from the mortgage meltdown. Property tax assessments, a major funding source for municipalities, have only started to drop.

Hiring slows, unemployment rises
Caught in a fiscal bind, local governments will have to reduce personnel expenses since it is the costliest part of their budgets and they've already slashed their programs and services.

"We're at the tip of the iceberg," said Christiana McFarland, the National League of Cities' program director for finance and economic development. Cities "don't have many options at this point."

Teachers and school staff will bear the brunt of the layoffs this summer, as hundreds of thousands will likely be laid off around the nation. The national job numbers should reflect the hit in July and September.

It's not uncommon for state and local governments to take longer to emerge from a recession. But usually by then, businesses have ramped up their hiring. This time around, private sector hiring has remained soft, making government cutbacks that much more painful.

And it will likely take at least a year before the state and local government job market revives, economists said. Until then, they are waiting to see the extent of the downsizing.

"The only question is 'how much worse?," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/05/news/economy/state_local_layoffs/index
.htm?iid=EL


Sickening, absolutely sickening, in my opinion.

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Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You'll note that none of those who believe that "government employees" are the problem, will in turn vote to reduce their own salaries or benefits, or eliminate their own jobs.



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Can you say double-dip? Sure you can!

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Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:36 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I agree Niki, this isn't the answer and it sucks brick.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, June 27, 2011 12:23 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Aw, c'mon Mike, that one's so obvious it's silly. In spite of the fact that, supposedly, those guys are ALSO "government employees". I'm in favor of denying legislators their salaries when they hold vital things up (like raising the debt ceiling and California's always-late budget!), but NOT for reimbursing them when they finish the job.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Monday, June 27, 2011 11:28 PM

FREMDFIRMA



I'd take that one further - if someone else does the work, THEY get the money.

Many a year ago I worked for a light construction/demolition company, and our work crew was a bunch of rejects no one else wanted with a no-questions-asked policy who got paid in cash at the end of the day, which was cool with me cause I was kinda layin low at the time.

Well, we had this one jamaican dude, we called him Jerk - cause I couldn't for the life of me pronounce his name, and ever since I bought him a bottle of "Carribean Jerk Seasoning" as joke, it stuck.
Now, he was a nice enough person and all, but on the job he was something of an ass, goofing off a bit too much and smokin herb nonstop - not that we cared, till it started affecting his job performance, you know ?

It came to a head on a building we were workin on, I was supposed to take out the west wall and break it up as much as possible, and he was supposed to do the south wall, only he was too fucked up to do it, and in a fit of rage I took em both apart quite handily, hell I was still huffin a bit when we lined to get paid, and came my turn I bitched that I did all of Jerks work, then suggested I should get his share!
The owner asks if that's true, looks down the line of us and sees a bunch of nodding heads and Jerk hanging his head in shame... and hands me Jerks share.
He still smoked on the job, but after that he never, EVER got too stoned to work again, lesson learned.

Same principle here - they don't suffer no CONSEQUENCES, they gonna keep screwing up, and the fastest way to get someones attention these days is to sock em in the wallet!

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:18 PM

KANEMAN


CT..just got in on the act, our democrat governer plans on laying off 14% of the state workers...and get this...strip collrctive bargining...his name is malloy not walker...reality is a fantastic thing

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