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We should become more like Canada
Monday, July 11, 2011 6:58 AM
HARDWARE
Quote: The Federal Court of Appeal has rejected an illegal immigrant's bid to have her medical treatments covered under Canada's healthcare system, saying it could undermine immigration laws and turn the country into a "health care safe haven." The three-judge panel ruled against Nell Toussaint, a Grenadan citizen who came to Canada as a visitor in 1999 and settled in Toronto. Toussaint's health began to deteriorate in 2006 and over the years, she suffered from a number of conditions, including uterine fibroids, blood clots, tumours and hypertension. Unable to pay her medical bills, Toussaint applied to become a permanent resident in 2008 so she could be covered under Ontario's health insurance program. She also applied for a temporary residence permit. But she didn't pay the application fees and as a result, neither request was considered. She later sought medical coverage from the federal government under a 1957 Order in Council that provides emergency care for people making their way through the immigration system. When the government refused, she brought the matter to federal court, arguing the decision violated her rights to life and security of the person under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The court dismissed her case. A second appeal was shot down in a decision released Friday. Justice David Stratas wrote in the decision Toussaint was not entitled to federal health coverage because she wasn't involved in the immigration process...
Monday, July 11, 2011 7:07 AM
THEHAPPYTRADER
Monday, July 11, 2011 11:19 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Monday, July 11, 2011 12:01 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Quote:Originally posted by Hardware: But just in the whole immigration thing. Not in the universal healthcare. Don't believe me, ask actress Natasha Richardson how great universal healthcare is.
Monday, July 11, 2011 12:35 PM
BYTEMITE
Monday, July 11, 2011 2:28 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Monday, July 11, 2011 3:20 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, July 11, 2011 4:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by TheHappyTrader: eh?
Monday, July 11, 2011 4:20 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: So if Mel went to the emergency room up there, would they not treat her because of this ruling? Or does it only apply to things like doctors appts and continuing treatment? Just wondering.
Monday, July 11, 2011 5:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Okay, yeah, I ain't real nice about a lotta things, but yanno what ? On this, the issue of medical care, PERIOD ? Fuck money, fuck nationalism, if someone is ill and needs treatment - it's your goddamn duty to humanity, to yourself, to everything that makes us HUMAN, to treat them to the best of your capability. Seriously, what kind of a person is someone who, having the ability, the knowledge, and possibly the resources to do so - turns away someone and leaves em hanging at the windy corner like that, even *I* find that offensive. We need to take a good hard look at ourselves, in that we're all so okay with subsidizing slaughter, to the point where its impoverishing us as a nation, but begrudge every thin dime used to treat the sick or feed the hungry. Are YOU okay with that ? Cause I'm not. PS. Anyone lauding such inhuman malice shows exactly what they are, don't they ? -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Monday, July 11, 2011 7:04 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, July 11, 2011 8:39 PM
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Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So maybe we should start putting credit card swipers in the ambulances. If you don't have a high enough credit limit (or can't prove you're really a "real" American), they just drive away and leave you on the street to die.
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:57 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 1:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "We should become more like Canada" Yes, we should. But with lots and lots of money being thrown towards the military and the very rich and powerful, and there not being enuf left over for education, infrastructure, health care and wages, we are becoming more like Mexico. Sorry for the diversion. Carry on.
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