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Mamma Grizzly mouths off again
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:17 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Sarah Palin responded to unsubstantiated accusations that Joe Biden called the tea party "terrorists" over their role in the debt ceiling negotiation, saying President Obama should look into his own past with Bill Ayers if he wants to see "domestic terrorists." "He didn't have a problem palling around with Bill Ayers back in the day when he kicked off his political career in Bill Ayers' apartment," the former Alaska governor said Tuesday night on Fox News. "You know, shaking hands with Chavez and saying he doesn't need any preconditions with dictators … wanting to read U.S. Miranda rights to alleged, suspected foreign terrorists." If she and Fox host Sean Hannity were "real domestic terrorists," Palin said "heck, shoot, President Obama would be wanting to pal around with us, wouldn't he?" Multiple Democratic sources said Democratic members of Congress vented to the vice president about tea party lawmakers who "negotiate like terrorists." As they spoke, Biden said "well now we've taken away their weapons of mass destruction," meaning the Republicans could not use the debt ceiling as leverage with Democrats in the future. Biden's press secretary, Kendra Barkoff said the word "terrorists," "was used by several members of Congress. The Vice President does not believe it's an appropriate term in political discourse." More at http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/03/palins-domestic-terrorist-punch-to-obama/#more-169945
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:58 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:05 AM
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 9:19 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:18 AM
DREAMTROVE
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:34 AM
FIVVER
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Yup. I agree wholeheartedly. But you know how politics works: Buzz words, visceral triggers; because they WORK!
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:33 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by fivver: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Yup. I agree wholeheartedly. But you know how politics works: Buzz words, visceral triggers; because they WORK! Yeah, but now since 'racist' has been totally worn out by the barking moonbats on the left, they're trying out 'terrorist'.
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: It's hard to get a bad picture of Sarah Palin.
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:29 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: But William Ayres is not ( Edited: I looked him up because I didn't remember the details. I am wrong He did plant a bomb at a police memorial statue, intended to kill police officers. So he , at least , used to be. I got him confused with Jeremiah Wright, who is not, by my definition) : Obama is not; the Tea Partyers are not. TO call them that is pointless villification and fear-mongering.
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: But William Ayres is not ( Edited: I looked him up because I didn't remember the details. I am wrong He did plant a bomb at a police memorial statue, intended to kill police officers. So he , at least , used to be. I got him confused with Jeremiah Wright, who is not, by my definition) : Obama is not; the Tea Partyers are not. TO call them that is pointless villification and fear-mongering.
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 2:29 PM
Quote: Hey, 'Rap: Go suck a 44 Magnum. I checked the data myself, because I wasn't sure. I Edited the post myself, to correct the error, immediately. Next time you post something REALLY STUPID, why don't you correct YOURSELF immediately, rather than insulting the folks who prove you WRONG, you loud mouthed DUMBASS. And it's easy enough to get them confused ,since you Right Wing ASSHOLES have been going on for years now about how they both, and Obama , are all the same. At least I'm honest enough to check, and correct, myself. ANd you might notice that I stuck up for the TPers, even though I disagree with them.
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 3:18 PM
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 3:39 PM
Quote: Kinda curious to see the noise over this harmless poor choice of words...
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 3:53 PM
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:04 PM
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:59 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:51 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Prove it.
Thursday, August 4, 2011 2:02 AM
Thursday, August 4, 2011 2:12 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Politico: Biden was agreeing with a line of argument made by Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) at a two-hour, closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting. “We have negotiated with terrorists,” an angry Doyle said, according to sources in the room. “This small group of terrorists have made it impossible to spend any money.” Biden, driven by his Democratic allies’ misgivings about the debt-limit deal, responded: “They have acted like terrorists.”
Thursday, August 4, 2011 2:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Huh. Not a single one of those "quotes" is attributed to Joe Biden. You can go ahead and admit you've got nothing now.
Thursday, August 4, 2011 7:54 AM
Quote:Republicans describe Democrats as: > anti-Semitic; > hate white people; > hate men and manhood; > manipulate minorities; > unpatriotic > anti-American; > hate liberty; > hate the wealthy and successful; > Communists; > Godless atheists; > want to institute a totalitarian-style command economy; > want to make all our decisions for us; > want to punish productivity and excellence;; > baby-killers who support infanticide. Democrats describe Republicans as: > racist; > xenophobic; > hate minorities and brown people; > misogynistic; > greedy; > don't care about the poor; > think it's wrong to help the needy; > war-mongering; > Social Darwinists; > religious fanatics; > Taliban; > Nazis; > want to resegregate into a white supremacist theocracy; > want to enslave women. Both parties say of the other that they: > want to destroy the economy; > act in lock-step; > don't care about facts, logic, reason, science; > power-hungry; > extremists; > radicals; > terrorists. This is the survey you'd need to do in order to support the claim that "Republicans do more name-calling than Democrats" or "Democrats engage in more vitriol than Republicans." And yet there's no shortage of people who loudly insist that one party does it more. And this is how the cause of civility gets twisted into just another exercise in partisan vitriol. People claim that one side is chiefly to blame for said vitriol, even though they have nothing approaching adequate evidence to support that claim. It becomes yet another unsubstantiated claim, a claim that is itself an instance of name-calling. I don't say one party does it more than the other because I don't know if it's true. And neither do you. It just so happens that no such evidence exists. So, to those of you who do want to make such a claim, prove it. Pony up some empirical proof. Don't give us anecdotes, or say "it seems like" or "it feels like" one side does it more. Give us a rigorous, comprehensive survey of all the statements from equally representative samples of Republicans and Democrats. Without evidence along these lines, you're just adding to the list of name-calling. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6206184/who_is_worse_democrats_or_republicans_pg4.html?cat=9
Quote: Hoft warned: “Look Out – The Thugs Are Coming…[Gateway Pundit, 3/10/11] In a March 9 post, Fox Nation described Wisconsin protesters as “Rabid Leftists.” [Media Matters, 3/9/11] On its Twitter page, Fox Nation promoted its March 9 post stated, “Warning, Frothing Radicals Running Wild.” [Media Matters, 3/9/11] A March 8 Fox Nation headline stated, “Howling Liberals Interrupt John Kasich Speech.” In the post, Fox Nation referred to the protesters as “leftist bullies.” [Fox Nation, 3/8/11] A March 8 Fox Nation headline referring to pro-union protesters at a GOP-hosted town hall event stated, “Shrieking Leftist Mob Shuts Down Town Hall Meeting in Wisconsin.” [Media Matters, 3/8/11] On March 3, Fox & Friends used a video of Wisconsin protesters confronting a GOP state senator to attempt to portray the protesters as a “violent” “mob.” In fact, the video showed no evidence that violence occurred during the incident, prompting the photographer who shot the video to slam Fox’s coverage as “a genuinely dangerous narrative that Fox News is helping to create.” [Media Matters, 3/3/11] http://whatdoesgopstandfor.com/why-did-fox-new-call-teacher-union-menbers-thugs/
Quote:Stevens said the anti-war demonstrators around the country were un-American.... “I think they’re a bunch of communists and socialists,” he said. http://galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=982e6a19855ad2ce
Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Huh. Not a single one of those "quotes" is attributed to Joe Biden. You can go ahead and admit you've got nothing now. Failed reading comprehension 101 again, huh? No quotes were CLAIMED to be attributed to VP Biden.
Quote:Biden said it.
Quote:For those leaders of the Democratic party, Reid, Bidenp, etc..., to refer to us REAL Americans in such terms, is nothing less than despicable.
Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I think it's just precious that you like to refer to yourself in the third person, though, and liken yourself to a Star Wars character. That's really cute, Jar-Jar Rappy.
Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:43 AM
Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:49 AM
Quote:Both sides call each other Nazis, and social darwinists, which they think is a soft way of saying Nazi.
Thursday, August 4, 2011 4:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: It's despicable that people have to reach for ugly words to call others, but it's politics, it happens all the time and the media (and other side) usually make a big deal out of it.
Thursday, August 4, 2011 7:54 PM
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