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UK Government Considers Blocking Twitter, Blackberry in Wake of Riots

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UPDATED: Friday, August 12, 2011 06:25
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:11 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Following discussion on whether or not social media was "responsible" for the recent riots and looting in the United Kingdom, the British Government is looking at ways to reduce the likelihood of social media being used to organize riots or violent protest again.

Officials are considering both banning specific users from sites like Twitter or Facebook if they're being believed to be plotting criminal activity or, much more extremely, empowering the police to essentially close social media access in the U.K. during times of emergency.
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It seems that British Prime Minister David Cameron is serious about the first option, according to this recent statement:

"Everyone watching these horrific actions will be struck by how they were organised via social media. Free flow of information can be used for good. But it can also be used for ill, and when people are using social media for violence we need to stop them. So we are working with the police, the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality. I have also asked the police if they need any other new powers."

These potential new powers are part of Cameron's pledge to do "whatever it takes" to restore order to British streets following the past five nights of rioting. Cameron has, unsurprisingly, come under fire from free speech proponents for his suggestions, with Jim Killock of the Open Rights Group saying, "David Cameron must be careful not to attack these fundamental needs because of concerns about the actions of a small minority." More at http://techland.time.com/2011/08/11/u-k-government-considers-blocking-
twitter-blackberry-in-wake-of-riots/

Jezus Kriste, are we to become just like Libya and all the other dictatorships we've been egging people on to protest?!?!?

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:45 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Looks like the government in China has found its new best friend. (insert disgusted face here)
Pathetic.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Will this do?



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:42 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

"British Prime Minister David Cameron thinks he's found some culprits to blame in the recent riots that have rocked London and other cities -- Facebook and Twitter.

Saying the "free flow of information" can sometimes be a problem, Cameron's government has summoned those two social-networking sites, as well as Research In Motion, makers of the BlackBerry, for a meeting to discuss their roles during the violent outbreaks."



http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/08/11/london.riots.social.me
dia/index.html?hpt=hp_c2


Hello,

This issue brought me back to my old friends here, so much has it burned with me.

Riots? Millions in damages.

Destroying Free Speech? Priceless.

--Anthony

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:38 PM

FREMDFIRMA


I found the Norwegian response to such things far more heartening.

Again, doin this shit is like trying to hold a fistfull of sand, the harder you squeeze, the more slips right through your fingers - I'm already firing up my samzidat machine though, just in case.
There's always a way, that genie isn't going back in the bottle no matter how they try.

-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:50 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I think converting text to a graphic might be an easy way to skip past the snoopers, who would then have to devote much, much more resources in order to perform OCR on the images. Then, when they get that far, some kind of embedding would become necessary, such that the obvious text is overlaying an inobvious image that contains the actual message.

Maybe an app could handle the conversion based on an agreed upon encryption seed. Only people with the right seed could break down each other's images to reveal the underlying text. The NSA has machines that could crunch all of this, but not en masse. Doing it once is easy. Doing it a million times every hour all day is harder.

Then they'd still need to sift the data for anything relevant, distribute it. Stuff would be weeks old before they reached human eyes, if they ever reached human eyes before simply being archived.

But this is all grasping and imagination on my part. I'm not tech savvy enough for any really good ideas.

--Anthony

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“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:51 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Anthony! You old so-and-so, how the heck have you been?!

Good to see you around these parts again.

And you nailed it.

This is EXACTLY the behavior the U.S. denounced Iran so harshly for so recently. What do you think the State Department will have to say about the Brits trying the same tactic? Anything?

Frem: Right on.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I think converting text to a graphic might be an easy way to skip past the snoopers, who would then have to devote much, much more resources in order to perform OCR on the images. Then, when they get that far, some kind of embedding would become necessary, such that the obvious text is overlaying an inobvious image that contains the actual message.

Maybe an app could handle the conversion based on an agreed upon encryption seed. Only people with the right seed could break down each other's images to reveal the underlying text. The NSA has machines that could crunch all of this, but not en masse. Doing it once is easy. Doing it a million times every hour all day is harder.

Then they'd still need to sift the data for anything relevant, distribute it. Stuff would be weeks old before they reached human eyes, if they ever reached human eyes before simply being archived.

But this is all grasping and imagination on my part. I'm not tech savvy enough for any really good ideas.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi




What about software that converts websites and text into those little squiggly-looking squares that I can't seem to remember the name of? The ones where you point your camera at them, and they decode it and take you to a certain website related to the graphic? Wonder if they can get around that as easily...

Ah - found it: QR Codes! Like this:



[WARNING!: I have no idea where that one might take you if you point your smartphone at it.]



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Disgusting. Atrocious. Inexcusable.

Somehow when people organize electronically in Iran, or Syria or Egypt it's great. When it happens anywhere else, it's a crime.

BTW, if you want to keep tabs on the truly scary things the **US** government is doing to spy 24/7 on Americans, get a free e-subscription to GCN Daily (Government Computing News Daily).

For some real-life chills, read this:
http://gcn.com/articles/2011/05/13/agg-odni-report-data-mining-intelli
gence-counter-terrorism.aspx

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Friday, August 12, 2011 6:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hey Anthony! You've been BADLY missed, and not just by me! I'm glad I put this up, if for no other reason than it brought you back out of the woodwork! I hope you stick around, yours is a very vital voice.

Nonetheless, I agree with you 100%. It's disgusting and inexcusable.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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