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GOP Presidential Debate
Friday, August 12, 2011 2:58 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Friday, August 12, 2011 3:19 AM
Friday, August 12, 2011 3:22 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Friday, August 12, 2011 3:55 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Ron Paul 2012!
Friday, August 12, 2011 5:18 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Friday, August 12, 2011 5:20 AM
Friday, August 12, 2011 6:17 AM
Friday, August 12, 2011 12:56 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Friday, August 12, 2011 3:06 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Friday, August 12, 2011 3:47 PM
Friday, August 12, 2011 11:05 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:34 AM
DREAMTROVE
Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:27 AM
Quote: On June 4, 2004, while other members of Congress honored the 40th anniversary of the historic act, Paul stood on the floor of the House of Representatives and delivered a diatribe against integration, claiming it violated the Constitution “while diminishing individual freedoms.” “The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society,” Paul declared. Not a surprising statement from a man who is touted on white supremacist web sites as their candidate for President. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40855
Quote:On his “Hardball” show Friday, Matthews responded to Paul when he said he wouldn’t have voted for the Civil Rights act:Quote:I once knew a laundromat when I was in the Peace Corps training in Louisiana, in Baker, Louisiana. A laundromat had this sign on it in glaze, ‘whites only on the laundromat, just to use the laundromat machines. This was a local shop saying ‘no blacks allowed.’ You say that should be legal.“That’s ancient history,” Paul said. “That’s over and done with.”
Quote:I once knew a laundromat when I was in the Peace Corps training in Louisiana, in Baker, Louisiana. A laundromat had this sign on it in glaze, ‘whites only on the laundromat, just to use the laundromat machines. This was a local shop saying ‘no blacks allowed.’ You say that should be legal.
Quote:Paul's defenses of these and many other outrageous columns have raised more questions than they have answered. His initial reaction to this issue, when it was raised by an adversary in the 1996 congressional election, was to admit to having written the columns and to defend their content as insignificant. As Matt Welch pointed out in a column for Reason, statements made at that time by both Paul and his campaign staff accepted responsibility for publishing the columns and failed in any way to indicate that he hadn't written them or even read them. In fact, according to a contemporaneous report in the Dallas Morning News:Quote: Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation. However, in 2008, Paul claimed that the columns, which he had said that he had written, which were written in the first person and which included references to his family life and other personal touches, had been ghost-written by someone of whose identity he was somehow uncertain. He claimed that it was completely plausible that he would allow people he did not know to author such columns for him, and that he would go on to publish them without prior review to his supporters in newsletters bearing his name in their titles. Such defenses by Dr. Paul insult those who legitimately want information about this troubling side of his record. Paul's answers to these legitimate question do not treat with appropriate gravity a very serious matter. They are not only inconsistent, they are self-contradictory. They are not only implausible, they are impossible. http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2011/05/unanswered-questions-why-ron-pauls.html
Quote: Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation.
Quote:Paul has previously admitted to writing the newsletters and defended the statements in 1996, then blamed them on an unnamed ghostwriter in 2001 and then denied any knowledge of them in 2008. http://www.wordofsouth.com/myblock/archive/index.php/t-85353.html
Quote: in an interview with The Dallas Morning News published on May 22, 1996, Paul acknowledged writing in a 1992 issue of his newsletter http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_skeeter__080113_racist_rantings_in_o.htm
Quote: Back in 1996, Paul narrowly eked out a congressional victory over Democrat Lefty Morris, who made the newsletters one of his main campaign issues, damning them both for their racial content and for their advocacy of drug legalization. At the time, Paul defended the statements that appeared under his name, claiming that they expressed his "philosophical differences" with Democrats. http://woldcnews.com/national/woldcnews/why-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-matter/ either he wrote them (and since they were written as if from him, with personal touches, it's hard to believe he didn't), or else he never bothered to review what someone else wrote under his name. I don't find either possibility to be proof he wasn't condoning what was written, and what those newsletters contain is EXTREMELY racist. As I've said before, I like the man for being up-front and I like some of his ideas. But I do not think they are viable in the real world. Whether he's lying about those writings or just didn't pay attention to what was written "by him", I don't like the implications. Personally, given his forthrightness, I think he did write them, they're just inconvenient now.
Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:36 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:I believe he is the only candidate who might put an end to perpetual war and military adventurism. He has never wavered from his stance on our use of the military, and I think he honestly believes what he says.
Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:54 AM
Quote:So either he wrote them (and since they were written as if from him, with personal touches, it's hard to believe he didn't), or else he never bothered to review what someone else wrote under his name. I don't find either possibility to be proof he wasn't condoning what was written, and what those newsletters contain is EXTREMELY racist. As I've said before, I like the man for being up-front and I like some of his ideas. But I do not think they are viable in the real world, but whether he's lying about those writings or just didn't pay attention to what was written "by him", I don't like the implications. Personally, given his forthrightness, I think he did write them, they're just inconvenient now.
Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:15 AM
Quote:Congressman Paul: " He asked if there was an international conspiracy to overthrow our government. The answer is "Yes". I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. http://www.propagandamatrix.com/260903ronpaul.html has other theories about conspiracies which I find difficult to accept. I wouldn't vote for someone I believed saw conspiracies lurking around every corner. And there's the question: IF he didn't write the articles in question, why did he admit to it initially and follow it up by saying they represented his philosophical differences, then later say they were insignificant? Why wouldn't he have said straight out in 1996 that he didn't write them? There are just too many questions about him on several fronts to instill any trust in me of him as President.
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