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Fox & Friends: Occupy Wall Street is “full of felons and drug users.”
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:33 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The Occupy Wall Street demonstrations that started in New York City on Sept. 16 have now turned in to a national movement. There are more than 70 ongoing demonstrations across the country, with New York City, Los Angeles, Denver, Phoenix and Miami seeing some of the largest turnouts. Police and protestors have had heated confrontations, leading to hundreds of arrests in New York and Boston. But some public personalities still refuse to take the movement seriously. From elected officials to TV news anchors, people who’ve invested in the status quo are up in arms to brush off the movement that’s trying to hold it accountable. Here are five of the most demeaning cheap shots we’ve seen so far. 5 of the Dumbest Things Said About the Occupy Wall Street Movement Fox and Friends: Occupy Wall Street is “full of felons and drug users.” No big surprise here, but it’s still sort of fascinating to see just what Fox News will come up with next. This time around Fox News’s “Fox & Friends” presented a selective sampling of who they see out protesting: “convicted criminals, methadone felons and professional handcuff-lock-pickers.” And it gets better. According to the hosts, demonstrators are only showing up for the free food. Newt Gingrich: Occupy Wall Street is full of “dumb ideas.” Newt Gingrich was a guest on CBS’s “Face the Nation” this past weekend and called the protesters “dumb and uneducated.”Quote:“We have had a strain of hostility to free enterprise and frankly, a strain of hostility to classic America starting in our academic institutions and spreading across this country and I regard the Wall Street protesters as a natural outcome of a bad education system teaching them really dumb ideas.” He’s also called Occupy Wall Street demonstrators “stupid” on his radio show. Rep. Peter King: “We must stop those ragtag mobs and anarchists before they actually change policy.” Congressman Peter King (R-N.Y.) was a guest on The Laura Ingraham Show and talked about how he’s afraid that the growing number of Occupy Wall Street protesters, along with the media coverage of the movement, may end up shaping U.S. government policy — much like the anti-war protesters did in the 1960s and ’70s.Quote:“The fact is these people are anarchists. They have no idea what they’re doing out there,” King said. “They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone and anti-capitalist. It’s a ragtag mob basically. "We have to be careful not to allow this to get any legitimacy,” he said, adding “I’m taking this seriously in that I’m old enough to remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can’t allow that to happen.” Monica Crowley (Fox News again): Wall Street protestors are “useful idiots who probably haven’t paid much in taxes their whole life.” On Monday, conservative radio and television commentator Monica Crowley was a guest on Fox News’ “Your World.” She got right down to business, generalizing the protesters as working class kids, aging hippies, and Obama supporters. Herman Cain: Occupy Wall Street protesters are a bunch of “jealous Americans” who “play the victim card” and want to “take somebody else’s Cadillac.” Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain seems to have a daily insult for Occupy Wall Street. On CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday Cain said called the protesters “jealous” Americans who “play the victim card” and want to “take somebody else’s” Cadillac. Last week, he also told Wall Street demonstrators not to blame Wall Street, but to blame themselves: “Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself!” Cain said. “It is not a person’s fault if they succeeded, it is a person’s fault if they failed.” http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/10/5_dumbest_things_said_about_occupy_wall_street.html
Quote:“We have had a strain of hostility to free enterprise and frankly, a strain of hostility to classic America starting in our academic institutions and spreading across this country and I regard the Wall Street protesters as a natural outcome of a bad education system teaching them really dumb ideas.”
Quote:“The fact is these people are anarchists. They have no idea what they’re doing out there,” King said. “They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone and anti-capitalist. It’s a ragtag mob basically. "We have to be careful not to allow this to get any legitimacy,” he said, adding “I’m taking this seriously in that I’m old enough to remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can’t allow that to happen.”
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:38 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:01 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: ....and most likely not a guy defecating on a police car.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Well, it certainly is that,
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:26 AM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Well, it certainly is that, Really? How do you know?
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:36 AM
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Really the Daily Mail....let me laugh harder. I do like how they claim that they have more shocking photos but were censored.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:41 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:43 AM
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The guy has dropped trow and has his cheeks up against a cop car. Maybe you have some sort of fetish that you need to see what's been reported, but I for one don't care to see that. If nothing else, he's doing more than merely mooning the cop car. Seriously, the level of childish denial on your part is exceptional. You dismiss that it happened, I show you photos and the written report, you STILL deny it.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:02 AM
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: No, you won't. You're going to simply ignore anything I say, out of hand, because you have nothing to deny that it took place.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:13 AM
Quote:Ann Coulter: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Are Like Nazis. Coulter was speaking to Fox Business' Eric Bolling, who seemed to share her less-than-charitable views of the protests, which have gained widespread attention and sparked similar demonstrations in cities across the U.S. Bolling first quoted the protesters' use of the phrases, "demolition of capitalism" and "if we can learn to share we can all live in prosperity," and asked Coulter for her reaction. Coulter responded quickly that these terms could have been said right "before the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, and with only slight modification when the Nazis were coming to power...This is always the beginning of totalitarianism." Coulter also stated that the Democratic Party loves "mob uprising" as it is their "path to power" and that Democrats "always assume that the mob leaders will remain mob leaders and not end up like Maximilien Robespierre, beheaded a couple years after the revolution began, that is often the way revolutions go."
Quote:Glenn Beck: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Will 'Kill Everybody' "Nancy Pelosi, you really think these people are your friends?" Beck asked. "Are you that stupid? People around Nancy Pelosi, are you this stupid? Do you really think that you're going to be able to somehow or another control these people?" Beck then made the first of his dark analogies. Saying that the only thing that could control the movement would be a forceful crushing from "the top," he added, "It will be the Night of Long Knives. It will be a purging of this country." This was a seeming reference to the political murders carried out by the Nazis in 1934. Beck then turned to "capitalists," and here his warning was even starker and more graphic: "Capitalists, if you think that you can play footsies with these people, you're wrong. They will come for you and drag you into the streets and kill you...they're Marxist radicals...these guys are worse than Robespierre from the French Revolution...they'll kill everybody."
Quote: Herman Cain On Occupy Wall Street: 'If You Don't Have A Job And You're Not Rich, Blame Yourself' Businessman-turned-GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain sat down with the Wall Street Journal for a recent interview and gave an unsympathetic analysis of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street movement, suggesting it was staged and driven by "anti-capitalism." Asked by the Journal's Alan Murray about his thoughts on the demonstrations, which initially began in New York City and have since spread around the country, Cain responded: Quote:"I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! ... It is not a person's fault if they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed."Cain went on to admit that the banks had something to do with the economic crisis of 2008, but pointed out that it was now 2011, seemingly downplaying any lasting effects of the practices of big banks and Wall Street.
Quote:"I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! ... It is not a person's fault if they succeeded, it is a person's fault if they failed."
Quote: Rep. Peter King Calls Occupy Wall Street Protesters 'Ragtag Mob,' 'Anarchists' "The fact is these people are anarchists. They have no idea what they're doing out there," King said. "They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone and anti-capitalist. It's a ragtag mob basically." King, whose Long Island district includes many Wall Street commuters, dismissed the demonstrators as "a bunch of angry 1960s do-overs" trying "to create chaos and take away the focus on the Obama record."
Quote: Tea Party Leaders Dub Wall Street Movement 'Human Sea Of Discontent' Not that Reps. Allen West (R-Fla.) or Steve King (R-Iowa) think OWS has anything legitimate to say, or that they sympathize at all with the anger that has been on display in protests from New York to California. Indeed, the lawmakers see the protests as artificial. West laughed when asked if he could identify at all with the protesters. "No, I don't," he said, adding that their movement was not genuine. "I don't see what the point is, and I think it's going to backfire because when you peel the onion back, you find out who's behind it and who's financing it -- it's not a true grassroots movement. It's not a true statement." Critics said the same thing of the Tea Party movement in its earliest days, pointing to funding and organization provided by well-funded groups like FreedomWorks. King also suspected unions are behind the movement, but found it far less amusing than West. "I look at the signs that are there -- it's a human sea of discontent," King said, adding that he spotted anarchists in the crowds on TV. "This is the Left looking for a cause," he said. He also added that he's "seen no evidence" that the movement is organic. He did not buy that they were angered by the the lack of regulation that sparked the ongoing housing crisis. "Aren't they volunteering to live in the street without housing right now? So it can't be very important to them, I would think," he said.
Quote: Eric Cantor Condemns Occupy Wall Street 'Mobs': They're 'Pitting Americans Against Americans' Top House GOP leaders assured attendees at the 2011 Values Voter Summit Friday morning that despite all the attention on fixing the nation's economy, they remain committed to pushing the priorities of social conservatives. Cantor used part of his address to attack the Occupy Wall Street protests, and he condemned political leaders who are supporting them. "This administration's failed policies have resulted in an assault on many of our nation's bedrock principles," he said. "If you read the newspapers today, I, for one, am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying Wall Street and the other cities across the country. And believe it or not, some in this town, have actually condoned the pitting of Americans against Americans. But you sent us here to fight for you and all Americans." But when he spoke at the Values Voter Summit in 2009, Cantor expressed a very different sentiment toward another movement that was arguably "pitting Americans against Americans" -- the Tea Party. At that time, Cantor praised those protesters as "fighting on the fighting lines of what we know is a battle for our democracy.” "People are beginning to wake up and see a country they don’t really recognize," said Cantor.
Quote:On Saturday, 744 people, protesting as part of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street movement, were penned and arrested as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge. The NYPD, strapped for a way to take so many prisoners to city precincts, commandeered five MTA buses and their drivers. According to The New York Daily News, Union President John Samuelsen called ordering bus drivers to drive prisoners "a blatant act of political retaliation." "This was a peaceful protest until the police came along,” Samuelsen told The New York Post, adding that cops are technically allowed to commandeer bus drivers in case of an emergency but scoffed at the notion that Saturday’s events were even close to crossing that threshold. “This is not 9/11. There was no state of emergency whatsoever. They have no right to press our bus operators into performing emergency services,” he said.
Quote:As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies. As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known. They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices. They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right. They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance. They have sold our privacy as a commodity. They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit. They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them. They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit. They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit. They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt. They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: No, you won't. You're going to simply ignore anything I say, out of hand, because you have nothing to deny that it took place. Try me. ...but have fun finding another source.
Quote: See it looks very much to me that the man is looking down at his inner leg or crotch.
Quote: Not to mention that somewhere would be photos of the after math showing the fecal matter. This is the internet. I can find pictures of Bat-Boy having sex with a one armed Canadian transvestite midget while a Shetland pony looks on from a trampoline. So if what the Daily Mail is claiming to be true there would be more photos around.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:36 AM
STORYMARK
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:42 AM
Quote:As if this has never happened before in New York City, a man allegedly defecated on a cop car. What makes this specific incident different from any other day in Manhattan is that there also happens to be a pretty big protest going on. The target of the protest? Wall Street. Whether or not the defecating man is actually a protester is up for discussion. It’s possible. It’s also possible that he’s one of New York’s 40,000 homeless people. The third possibility is that the man was a right-wing media plant. What would make me think that? Well, first off, the picture was taken by professional photographer, Stephen Jeremiah. Behind the story, are known right-wing fabricator, Andrew Breitbart and the right-wing British rag, The Daily Mail. What are the odds that a photographer-for-hire would happen to be in the right place at the right time for an “incriminating” picture? Your guess is as good as mine. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/10/new-york-man-defecates-on-cop-car-media-goes-crazy/
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:45 AM
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:15 PM
Quote:Yesterday, ACORN videographer James O'Keefe was arrested for an alleged plot to interfere with* Sen. Mary Landrieu's phone. Andrew Breitbart, whose website BigGovernment.com published O'Keefe's ACORN videos, stated that he pays O'Keefe a "fair salary" so that "when he puts a story out there, it's on the Breitbart sites, the Big sites, that he can tell people what transpired." http://mediamatters.org/blog/201001260064 you need another source:Quote:O'Keefe was recently arrested and charged with falsely identifying himself in order to commit a federal felony in the offices of a Democratic U.S. Senator. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7708 don't give a damn what you think of the sources, prove the FACTS are wrong if you want to refute them. Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani, Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”, signing off
Quote:O'Keefe was recently arrested and charged with falsely identifying himself in order to commit a federal felony in the offices of a Democratic U.S. Senator. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7708 don't give a damn what you think of the sources, prove the FACTS are wrong if you want to refute them.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:17 PM
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:46 PM
Quote:Conservative news media figure Andrew Breitbart revealed last night on Hugh Hewitt's radio show that he pays a salary to James O'Keefe, the filmmaker who was charged yesterday in an alleged attempt to tamper witt the phones of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA).
Quote:Andrew Breitbart, whose website BigGovernment.com published O'Keefe's ACORN videos, stated that he pays O'Keefe a "fair salary"
Quote:HH: Do you pay him for that? AB: Yes. HH: And are you free to tell me how much you pay him? AB: I’ll…perhaps at another date, but he’s paid a fair salary. HH: Is he…so he is an employee? AB: I’m not sure that’s technically the thing, but yes, he’s paid for his life rights.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And to be honest, even IF those pics were posted somewhere, I'd not post them, here, or anywhere.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You'll just have to trust me , and the Daily Mail, on this one. Ignore the story at your own peril.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:58 PM
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Not a druggie or a homeless guy, I'm sure... " I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And nickerson, props for trying to change the subject. I figured as much from you.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:26 PM
Quote:Posted by Rappy: If the Daily Mail says they're censoring their own photos... where else are you gonna go ? Funny, as the Left claims that Dem congress members were called the N-word and spat upon, there's zero evidence of any of that happening.
Quote: You'll just have to trust me , and the Daily Mail, on this one.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:30 PM
Quote:I DO read, at the cite Raptor put up: "Trash has built up in spite of best efforts by some demonstrators" and "Elsewhere we found piles of stinking refuse clogging Zuccotti Park, despite the best efforts of many of the protesters to keep the area clean." Ergo, there are efforts being made, and I don't know how you clean up after such a huge crowd.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Breitbart paid for the services, he himself didn't direct or instruct O'Keefe to do anything illegal.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:17 PM
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