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Monday, October 17, 2011 2:46 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:57 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:03 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:42 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:14 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:51 PM
FIVVER
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: I will never understand hunting animals for sport and trophies. It seems to me that this represents the absolute worst human trait we have. Animals are dumb creatures. If you believe in God you know that God created these wonderful animals, so when they're frivolously killed it's actually blasphemy against God. And there's really no "sport" to it at all. Dumb creature naked in the wild versus a high-powered rifle with a large caliber exploding bullet, with the "battlefield" super-enlarged by precision telescopic sights. And then these hunters are so proud of themselves that they need to preserve their big conquest of the beast in perpetuity, I suppose to help deflect from the fact that they all probably have very small penises.
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by fivver: I think all 'sport' hunting should be done naked and bare handed. Then if you come out of the woods dragging a grizzly bear you killed I will grant you bragging rights.
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:37 PM
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:46 PM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Wait, so are they saying that people can actually be born with one syclops eye too?
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:06 PM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:55 AM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 5:14 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:16 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:21 PM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:23 PM
Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Its just the yahoos who shoot creatures in the snow from helicopters and don't use it but just take a couple of things that bother me.
Friday, October 21, 2011 5:47 AM
Quote:Less than seven percent of the U.S. population hunts. Hunting is permitted on 60 percent of U.S. wildlife refuges and in many national forests and state parks. On federal land alone (more than half a billion acres), more than 200 million animals are killed every year. When hunters talk about shooting overpopulated animals, they are usually referring to white-tailed deer, representing only 3 percent of all the animals killed by hunters. Sport hunters shoot millions of mourning doves, squirrels, rabbits, and waterfowl, and thousands of predators, none of whom any wildlife biologist would claim are overpopulated or need to be hunted. Even with deer, hunters do not search for starving animals. They either shoot animals at random, or they seek out the strongest and healthiest animals in order to bring home the biggest trophies or largest antlers. Hunters and wildlife agencies are not concerned about reducing deer herds, but rather with increasing the number of targets for hunters and the number of potential hunting license dollars. Thus, they use deer overpopulation as a smokescreen to justify their sport. The New Jersey Division of Fish, Game and Wildlife states that "the deer resource has been managed primarily for the purpose of sport hunting," (New Jersey Division of Fish, Game and Wildlife, An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey, 1990). Hunters also shoot nonnative species such as ring-necked pheasants who are hand-fed and raised in pens and then released into the wild just before hunting season. Even if the pheasants - native to China - survive the hunters' onslaught, they are certain to die of exposure or starvation in the nonnative environment. While hunters claim they save overpopulated animals from starvation, they intentionally breed some species and let them starve to death. Hunters and hunting organizations also promote the idea that hunting is necessary for "wildlife management" and "conservation." "Wildlife management" and "conservation" are euphemisms used to describe programs that ensure that there are always enough animals for hunters to hunt. Because they make their money primarily from the sale of hunting licenses, the major function of wildlife agencies is not to protect individual animals or biological diversity, but to propagate "game" species for hunters to shoot. State agencies build roads through our wild lands to facilitate hunter access, they pour millions of tax dollars into law enforcement of hunting regulations and hunter education, and into manipulating habitat by burning and clear-cutting forests to increase the food supply for "game" species such as deer. More food means a larger herd and more animals available as targets. Hunting programs also cause wildlife overpopulation by stimulating breeding by conducting "buck only" hunts, which can leave as many as six does per buck; pen-raising quail, grouse, and pheasants for use as hunters' targets; transporting raccoons, antelopes, martens, wild turkeys, and other animals from one state to another to bolster populations for hunters; and exterminating predators like wolves and mountain lions in order to throw prey populations off balance, thereby "justifying" the killing of both "dangerous" and "surplus" animals. Hunters claim that they pay for "conservation" by buying hunting licenses, duck stamps, etc. But the relatively small amount each hunter pays does not cover the cost of hunting programs or game warden salaries. The public lands many hunters use are supported by taxpayers. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service programs, which benefit hunters, get most of their funds from general tax revenues, not hunting fees. Funds benefiting "non-game" species are scarce. Hunters kill more animals than recorded tallies indicate. It is estimated that, for every animal a hunter kills and recovers, at least two wounded but unrecovered animals die slowly and painfully of blood loss, infection, or starvation. Those who don't die often suffer from disabling injuries. Because of carelessness or the effects of alcohol, scores of horses, cows, dogs, cats, hikers, and others are wounded or killed each year by hunters. In 1988, 177 people were killed and 1,719 injured by hunters while walking through the woods or on their own property. Hunters say that they are "ethical" and follow the concept of "fair chase." What is fair about a chase in which the hunter uses a powerful weapon from ambush and the victim has no defense except luck? Furthermore, despite the hunting community's repeated rhetoric of "hunting ethics," many hunting groups have refused to end repugnant practices that go above and beyond the cruelty inherent in all sport hunting. There is clearly no "fair chase" in many of the activities sanctioned by the hunting community, such as: "canned hunts," in which tame, exotic animals - from African lions to European boars - are unfair game for fee-paying hunters at private fenced-in shooting preserves; "contest kills," in which shooters use live animals as targets while competing for money and prizes in front of a cheering crowd; "wing shooting," in which hunters lure gentle mourning doves to sunflower fields and blast the birds into pieces for nothing more than target practice, leaving more than 20 percent of the birds they shoot crippled and un-retrieved; "baiting," in which trophy hunters litter public lands with piles of rotten food so they can attract unwitting bears or deer and shoot the feeding animals at point-blank range; 'hounding," in which trophy hunters unleash packs of radio-collared dogs to chase and tree bears, cougars, raccoons, foxes, bobcats, lynx, and other animals in a high-tech search and destroy mission, and then follow the radio signal on a handheld receptor and shoot the trapped animal off the tree branch. More at http://www.idausa.org/facts/hunting.html said, as far as I'm concerned. I've heard all the "arguments" before; I hope this educates those who don't know the facts.
Friday, October 21, 2011 6:00 AM
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