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Sceptical climate scientists concede Earth has warmed
Friday, October 21, 2011 6:41 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:A group of scientists known for their scepticism about climate change has reanalysed two centuries' worth of global temperature records. Their study largely confirms previous ones: it finds strong evidence that Earth is getting hotter. "The valid issues raised by [climate] sceptics, when addressed fully and in detail, do not significantly change the answer," says lead author Richard Muller of the University of California, Berkeley. In a testimony to the US Congress earlier this year, Muller questioned whether global temperature records showed a significant warming during the 20th century. His project, the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (BEST), has now pulled together global temperature data going back to 1800 from 15 sources, including datasets held by the World Meteorological Organisation and US and UK government agencies. BEST concludes that land temperatures have risen by 1 °C since the 1950s. This is largely in line with the three existing global temperature records: GISTEMP, maintained by NASA, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's GHCN and HadCRU, kept by the UK Met Office. The 1 °C of warming reflects warming above land masses only, so is not yet a truly global estimate. In a series of papers that have not yet been peer-reviewed but are available on the BEST website, the researchers examine how reliable the temperature data is. Contrary to earlier studies that are often quoted by climate sceptics, the BEST researchers find that including data from weather stations in cities – which are warmer than rural areas – makes little difference to the overall trend. "Urban warming does not unduly bias estimates of recent global temperature change," they say. Blogger Anthony Watts of Watts Up With That has repeatedly claimed that temperature data is unreliable because weather stations are poorly placed – for instance, next to air-conditioning vents or other heat sources. However, BEST found no statistically significant difference in the trends seen at well-placed and poorly placed stations. "They get the same result that everyone else has gotten," says Michael Mann of Penn State University in University Park. "That said, I think it's at least useful to see that even a critic like Muller, when he takes an honest look, finds that climate science is robust." David Whitehouse, science adviser to The Global Warming Policy Foundation, a London-based think tank that has former British finance minister Nigel Lawson for chairman (said) "Everybody agrees that the temperature has warmed. The people who disagree about temperatures are the barking mad end of the spectrum. " http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21074-sceptical-climate-scientists-concede-earth-has-warmed.html a great video at that site which is eye-opening. At http://www.newscientist.com/video/1227970343001-changes-in-land-surface-temperature-since-1800.html The changes especially since 1980 are pretty dramatic!
Friday, October 21, 2011 7:10 AM
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KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Funding came from a number of sources, including charitable foundations maintained by the Koch brothers, the billionaire US industrialists, who have also donated large sums to organisations lobbying against acceptance of man-made global warming.
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RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, October 24, 2011 3:18 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Well done Niki you beat me to the punch on this one. An interesting line from the BBC article: Quote:Funding came from a number of sources, including charitable foundations maintained by the Koch brothers, the billionaire US industrialists, who have also donated large sums to organisations lobbying against acceptance of man-made global warming. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071 Damn these treacherous scientists and their non- right-wing conclusions!! It's not personal. It's just war.
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SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:That leaves out the cooler water arctic and antarctic regions... While that would not negate the increasing global average temperature trend we've seen, it does suggest that the average temperature normally being cited is just a tad warmer than the actual value. Unless there just isn't data for those latitudes.
Monday, October 24, 2011 5:11 AM
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Quote:If the extreme Far Left is going to be funded by govt agencies, then where are those skeptical of the AGW agenda ( and that's exactly what it is ) going to get funding for honest, straight forward science ?
Quote:"Had we found no global warming, then that would have ruled out AGW," said Prof Muller. "Had we found half as much, it would have suggested that prior estimates [of AGW] were too large; if we had found more warming, it would have raised the question of whether prior estimates were too low. "But we didn't; we found that the prior rise was confirmed. That means that we do not directly affect prior estimates."
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