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Finland : An Education Success Story
Tuesday, January 3, 2012 5:12 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Tuesday, January 3, 2012 5:26 PM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:The academic prowess of Finland's students has lured educators from more than 50 countries in recent years to learn the country's secret, including an official from the U.S. Department of Education. What they find is simple but not easy: well-trained teachers and responsible children. Early on, kids do a lot without adults hovering. And teachers create lessons to fit their students. "We don't have oil or other riches. Knowledge is the thing Finnish people have," says Hannele Frantsi, a school principal.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:38 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:The problem facing education in America isn't the ethnic diversity of the population but the economic inequality of society
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Anyway, I'm planning to go this year, so I'll try to get to the schools to see.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:55 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:Finland's success is especially intriguing because Finnish schools assign less homework and engage children in more creative play.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Maybe this is on to something about problems with American competitiveness.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by canttakesky: Excellent article. Thank you. A lot of food for thought. ETA: Found this article on the same subject, but from the WSJ. Quite different take on exactly the same story. Fascinating how partisanship works. http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB120425355065601997-7Bp8YFw7Yy1n9bdKtVyP7KBAcJA_20080330.html Quote:The academic prowess of Finland's students has lured educators from more than 50 countries in recent years to learn the country's secret, including an official from the U.S. Department of Education. What they find is simple but not easy: well-trained teachers and responsible children. Early on, kids do a lot without adults hovering. And teachers create lessons to fit their students. "We don't have oil or other riches. Knowledge is the thing Finnish people have," says Hannele Frantsi, a school principal.Nothing about equity at all. ----- Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:57 PM
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Sometimes in America it seems like some teachers and schools are less so much about actually teaching the kid, and more about forcing a standard of conformity onto them. Repetition to make it stick, punishment if it doesn't. Eventually a lot of kids just give up trying because few teachers try to adjust their style and approach from a different angle to get through to a kid. This is probably due to the focus on standardized testing, because teachers don't have time to make sure the kids understand, so they have to settle for kids being able to recite without meaning.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:07 PM
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:13 PM
Quote:The problems with too much standardised testing - children are taught to pass tests, not necessarily the same as learning. Testing does not take into consideration that children learn at different rates. Testing too early can mean that children are pegged at being low achievers and the damage to self esteem actually hinders their capacity to learn.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Sometimes in America it seems like some teachers and schools are less so much about actually teaching the kid, and more about forcing a standard of conformity onto them.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:30 PM
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 5:51 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 6:45 PM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by canttakesky: Exactly. We don't give a shit about academic excellence. We are more interested in training obedience.
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:24 PM
Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:55 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, January 5, 2012 5:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: The funny thing is, most of the teachers I know KNOW this, and they hate the standardized testing, but the school system and some of the Federal Laws kind of force it. One reason why bureaucrats and politicians who know nothing about children probably shouldn't be making education policy.
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