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If you let them do it to them....

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:42
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Monday, January 16, 2012 5:19 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Soon enough, they'll do it to YOU.

That's a lesson I cannot repeat enough, and you'd think after Lower Merion and the other incidents they'd learn, but no.

Parkway's use of fitness monitors raises privacy questions
http://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/metro/education/parkway-s-us
e-of-fitness-monitors-raises-privacy-questions/article_af46b549-0f1e-5a41-8a26-7f77c91ced20.html?mode=story

Quote:

In early 2012, wristwatch-like devices called Polar active monitors will be used by older students in PE classes at all 18 Parkway elementary schools. District officials say the devices should help improve the students' fitness and academic achievement.

Later this school year, the district plans to collect data about activity levels and even sleep patterns for a week at a time. It will have the students wear the devices round the clock.

Some parents and legal experts are raising privacy concerns about at least that aspect of the program.


And they went about it in a way that raises a lot of suspicion too, which has annoyed more than one parent.

And again, most privacy invading or abusive schemes of this nature are tested in the fashion of directing them at kids first since they have less means legal and otherwise to fight back - and eventually wind up directed at us all, the difference between Zero Tolerance and airport harrassment is exactly nothing, you understand ?

Better to fight it, crush it, here - BEFORE it's aimed at us, and in the process prevent kids from being conditioned to accept such abuses, because that comes with it's own future problems.

Speakin of which, should you be interested in watching Cevin Solings documentary The War on Kids, you can do so HERE.
http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/47708/1/

Watch that and imagine yourself as one of those victims, and you might begin to understand the depths of my hatred for those responsible.

And they *WILL* be held accountable, one way, or another.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, January 16, 2012 7:36 AM

BYTEMITE


At least it's not webcams that pedophiles can turn on when they feel like to spy on the kids, but that's still kinda...

I think I know where this is coming from, there's a big fad recently, some programmer scripted an easily alterable code where a person can collect data on themselves for various milestones and give themselves alerts and reminders. But yeah, it's something different when you're forced to do it, instead of choosing to do it.

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Monday, January 16, 2012 8:18 AM

CHRISISALL


Conan, what is best in school?

To crush kids' spirits, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation from their homework.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Monday, January 16, 2012 8:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


We can't have children staying up late at night.
















Then the pedophiles can't sneak up on em.

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Monday, January 16, 2012 8:58 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh I got one for that too...

The Homework Myth:
Why Our Kids Get Too Much
of a Bad Thing

http://www.alfiekohn.org/books/hm.htm
Quote:

Death and taxes come later; what seems inevitable for children is the idea that, after spending the day at school, they must then complete more academic assignments at home. The predictable results: stress and conflict, frustration and exhaustion. Parents respond by reassuring themselves that at least the benefits outweigh the costs.

But what if they don’t? In The Homework Myth, Alfie Kohn systematically examines the usual defenses of homework – that it promotes higher achievement, “reinforces” learning, teaches study skills and responsibility. None of these assumptions, he shows, actually passes the test of research, logic, or experience.

So why do we continue to administer this modern cod liver oil – or even demand a larger dose? Kohn’s incisive analysis reveals how a mistrust of children, a set of misconceptions about learning, and a misguided focus on competitiveness have all left our kids with less free time and our families with more conflict. Pointing to parents who have fought back – and schools that have proved educational excellence is possible without homework -- Kohn shows how we can rethink what happens during and after school in order to rescue our families and our children’s love of learning.



Funny, this - I never, EVER did my homework, unless it in some way appealed to my own interest, such as certain science projects, because 95% or more of it was IMHO just senseless, useless busywork shoved on me to waste my time and further express their dominion...
And I would have none of it - by third grade the only thing I was "learning" at school anymore was a passionate hatred for humans, their religion and society, and the concept of public school as administered, cause my actual "learning" mostly occured at home with my encyclopedia set and library books, and was pretty consistently two or three grades ahead anyways.
(You really think I'd have stomped the GED with a 287/300 at sixteen otherwise?)

Ergo, I could take the hit to my "grade" and barely even notice or care - this did keep me off the honor roll one year since despite making it on points they did NOT want to reinforce the example I was setting, cause it of course did call into question of the alleged value of homework.
My attitude about it was that they might be able to force me to come to their hellhole, but the moment that last bell rang that was *my* time, and any effort of theirs to step on it was an intrusion, an invasion, and a damned unwelcome one at that(1) - this carries over into my attitude towards employment too, once off the clock anything I do is at my own whim alone, or you pay me, period.

Seriously, how well would you take it if an employer regularly sent you off with two to four hours of more work to do, UNPAID - yes the biggie corps up here in MI kinda get away with some of that but only cause they're all in collusion about it, but hell if imma take that from anyone.

Anyhows, I don't DO homework, never did, never will, and I'll back up any kid who feels the same way, Kira's mom made the mistake of asking me to help her do homework and got the whole bloody rant, which had Kira all but jumping up and down with joy... although her mom doesn't seem to agree.
She now knows better than to ask me to help though!

-Frem
(1) - I actually wrote an editorial on that for the local Gazette, titled "My time is my own" and they printed it, although the assumption was that it was an adult pretending a childs mindset, hehehe.
Given how many of those they printed, when the jig was up sometime around me hitting fourteen they were very, very surprised.

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Monday, January 16, 2012 9:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
...an easily alterable code...


Are you pondering what I'm pondering....


-F

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Monday, January 16, 2012 9:04 AM

CHRISISALL


Think I'll pass this along to my Son, Frem....


The laughing Chrisisall


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Monday, January 16, 2012 9:12 AM

BYTEMITE


The reason for it being easily alterable was so that a person could write in specifically what they wanted to track. A person who has digestive trouble could monitor what they eat during the day, find out what they eat that sets them off, maybe even discover a mild food allergy or a diet change that eliminates the problem. Other people could tailor an exercise program for themselves, and so on.

But, yes, the editable code does have some interesting possibility for these kids and protecting their privacy as well.

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Monday, January 16, 2012 11:52 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


That's why I chose a school with a 'no homework' policy. Amazing how many parents are affronted by it, though. If Little Johnny is lugging home a sack full of worksheets, he just isn't learning, according to some.

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Monday, January 16, 2012 12:42 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


This is horrible Frem. They've got to stop it now or else it will get worse, I hope parents say absolutely not, what people do at home isn't school's business, even if its under the guise of fitness or whatever buzz word is going around these days.

About homework, I think its overrated, I can understand sending a bit home but its done way too much.

But as bad as our school system is, I think Japan's is way worse, they only get one day off, they are there more during the day and don't get any time to just be kids, so if we're going to slag on something I'll be first in line to slag on that.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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