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Aww, the American public approves...

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UPDATED: Friday, January 27, 2012 06:51
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Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


...of Obama's State of the Union address AND Obama himself:
Quote:

President Barack Obama may not have many fans in the Republican party these days, but he is sitting pretty with the American public -- at least as far as his State of the Union speech from last night is concerned. A CBS News poll following the president's address showed 91 percent of Americans approved of Obama's proposals:

An overwhelming majority of Americans approved of the overall message in President Obama's State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, according to a CBS News poll of speech watchers.

According to the poll, which was conducted online by Knowledge Networks immediately after the president's address, 91 percent of those who watched the speech approved of the proposals Mr. Obama put forth during his remarks. Only nine percent disapproved. http://www.thegrio.com/politics/state-of-the-union-91-percent-approve-
of-obama-proposals.php
survey taken moments after President Barack Obama finished giving his third State of the Union speech found that an overwhelming majority of Americans who viewed the speech, including most Republicans, strongly favored the president’s proposals.

In total, 91 percent of those surveyed approved of Obama’s agenda.

The CBS News poll’s focus group was 500 people: 25 percent Republicans, 44 percent Democrats and 31 percent independents. The network explained that the reason there were more Democrats in the survey is because more people from the president’s own party tend to watch the annual State of the Union speech.

Most remarkable of all, the poll found that approval of Obama’s agenda skyrocketed among speech watchers. Approval of his plans on the economy shot up from 53 percent to 82 percent; on the deficit, approval went from 45 percent to 80 percent; on the Afghanistan occupation, 83 percent approved, up from 57 percent. CBS News did not offer a partisan breakdown for Obama’s approval on individual issues.

A full 75 percent of respondents also said that Obama’s agenda will create jobs and make the U.S. more competitive. http://www.solidarityinstitute.org/2012/01/state-of-the-union-poll-mos
t-republican-voters-approve-of-obama-agenda/
, REPUBLICANS approving; they must be hiding under the rocks somewhere.

Oh, and by the way:
Quote:

Americans are growing more optimistic about the state of the economy and direction of the country, according to a new NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll out Wednesday evening, and President Obama is receiving better grades on his handling of the economy and job as a result.

More people said they believe the economy will get better (37 percent) in the next year rather than worse (17 percent). That’s the highest level in more than a year and a seven-point jump over last month. It also represents a reversal from October, when 32 percent of Americans said they expected the economy to get worse, versus 21 percent who expected improvement. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-morning-plum-ec
onomic-optimism-on-upswing/2012/01/26/gIQAWhJlSQ_blog.html

Election is still a long ways away, but people seem to be seeing the truth, despite all the lies tossed out by Republican candidates. Good.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:17 AM

BYTEMITE


I'm not happy with his speech. Too much wishful thinking in his proposals, not enough reality. Plus really blatant ulterior motives at times.

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree...all SOTUs are political farces, especially in an elction year! I just found it amusing that it got such high ratings, and from Republicans even!, so I thought I'd tease our righties with it.

Still, it would be better if the American public felt good about something, since perception is part of what drives an economy, and gawd knows the Repubs are getting enough "doom and gloom" from their own candidates! We'll see if he can accomplish any of the stuff he talked about, but again, as with everything Obama, I'm not holding my breath.



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Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Least viewed Obama SOTU speech ...

( wait for it )

Evah!


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:21 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


TRULY a poor attempt at a diss:
Quote:

It’s a peculiarity of the modern State of the Union. What used to be a must-see for the country is watched by a shrinking audience. The only way to get people to tune to it, it seems, is a fresh face, a juicy scandal, or a war. Let’s look at the viewership for every SOTU going back to the beginning of Bill Clinton’s first term. The most-watched of all was Clinton’s 1993 address, which wasn’t technically a SOTU (the first speech of a president’s term, typically given less than a month after his inauguration, is officially an “Address to the Joint Session of Congress”). That clocked in with a Nielsen rating of 44.3, meaning that about one in four households with televisions was watching.

Rounding out the top five are George W. Bush’s speech in 2003 (38.8), given on the eve of the war in Iraq; Clinton’s in 1998 (37.2), given just a week after news of his affair with Monica Lewinsky broke; Bush’s 2002 SOTU (33.6), which came four months after 9/11 and three months into the war in Afghanistan; and Clinton’s 1994 speech, which came in the midst of a fierce battle over his health-care-reform plan.

Now, quick: name a memorable line from any of those speeches. If you came up with “Axis of Evil” (2002), you can pat yourself on the back. And if you came up with more than one, you’re probably either a former presidential speechwriter or a historian.

And anyway, Bush’s line isn’t famous because so many people watched the original speech. It’s famous because it set the stage for the war in Iraq and became emblematic of his foreign-policy approach. Without ensuing events, it’s just another speech. For example, the 1996 State of the Union featured Clinton’s similarly iconic statement that “the era of big government is over.” It was a pivotal moment in his administration, forecasting his triangulation, welfare reforms, and balanced budgets. But fewer than one in three American households with televisions tuned in to the speech.

“They’re not defining moments for presidents,” says Julian Zelizer, a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton. “There are a few times when the way events unfold later make something a president said memorable. I’m not sure you can know it when you see it.”

It’s not just the boring, laundry-list format that’s driven viewers away: it’s the fact that viewers have a choice. Although the number of broadcasters carrying the speech has nearly tripled in the last 20 years, anyone who turns on the TV Tuesday night will have a far greater range of choices—unlike the glory days of network television, when anyone who wanted to watch the tube had little or no choice but to watch the president.

Despite the increasing number of television viewers in the U.S., the trend is clear in absolute numbers as well as percentage of viewers. The 2000 speech scored barely half the 1993 rating, a drop from 41.2 million viewers to 22.5 million. And with the exception of 2002 and 2003, the Bush years saw consistently low ratings.

While it’s no secret that Obama faces a stiff challenge from Republicans in Congress over the next two years, the economy has stabilized, there’s no war looming, and there aren’t salacious scandals in the news. Past trends make it pretty clear that this speech won’t be a big hit. But maybe that’s just as well. It might be a sign that voters have adopted a more realistic view. “The whole notion is that the president can go out and be a great orator and change things with a few lines,” Zelizer says. “Not only are most speeches not that memorable, there’s a limit to what they can achieve.” http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/blogs/the-gaggle/2011/01/24/why-
no-one-will-watch-the-state-of-the-union.html
you could come up with something better if you reeeely tried. No, go ahead, TRY, keep trying (it keeps you busy anyway).



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Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:55 AM

STORYMARK


Rappy, relying on a cheap and facile response? Why, golly gee, been at least.... an hour or two since I saw that.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:46 PM

JONGSSTRAW


In clips of the speech that I saw Obama looked happy. He should be. Republicans have put up seriously flawed and damaged candidates who he will defeat, and the House has failed to do anything against him concerning numerous scandals that surround him and his corrupt administration. The man is singing Al Green songs he's so happy.










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Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:53 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I didn't watch it, I never do, no matter who is up there giving the speech. They just say stuff to look good and there are an obscene number of clapping breaks worked into the speech.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, January 27, 2012 5:43 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
An overwhelming majority of Americans approved of the overall message in President Obama's State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, according to a CBS News poll of speech watchers.

According to the poll, which was conducted online by Knowledge Networks immediately after the president's address, 91 percent of those who watched the speech approved of the proposals Mr. Obama put forth during his remarks. Only nine percent disapproved.



Only one problem with this. If you click the CBS News poll link in the Grio story, you'll find out that the poll results reported are for the 2011 State of the Union address.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20029581-503544.html

The Solidarity Institute article also links to the 2011 results.

Oops. Some sloppy journalism, eh?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, January 27, 2012 6:51 AM

BYTEMITE


Interesting. In that case, here is some reporting on the 2012 speech from the same source. It is quite a bit less positive, however, and they did not take a poll.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57365410-503544/state-of-the-un
ion-obama-gop-battle-to-frame-2012-fight
/

I notice both pages from the grio and the solidarity institute have been taken down without a retraction statement.

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