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Rural Residents Strike Back at Lucas Film Empire
Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:24 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Luke Skywalker would be proud. A rebel alliance has formed in the hills north of San Francisco to fight a perceived Evil Empire. The alliance is a group of Marin County homeowners. Their phantom menace is George Lucas, the world-renowned filmmaker whose Star Wars Trilogy sky-rocketed him to acclaim and fortune. The plot is simple: Lucas wants to expand his filmmaking empire in the quiet valley that has been home to his Skywalker Ranch for three decades, building a 270,000-square-foot digital media production compound on historic farmland known as Grady Ranch. Neighbors say the massive structure will constrain their lifestyle with additional noise, traffic and harmful environmental impacts on the pristine countryside. Artist's rendering of the proposed buildings. But the plot thickens. Other neighbors say Lucas has been a stellar neighbor and a steward of the land who has protected massive swaths of agricultural acreage from housing developments, while bringing jobs and tax-paying residents to the community. It will all play out before what is likely to be a wide audience at the Marin County Planning Commission meeting on Feb. 27. Residents of Lucas Valley Estates, a subdivision of 174 midsize to upscale homes about a half-hour drive north of the Golden Gate Bridge, are leading the charge against Grady Ranch. They believe the latest Lucas compound is simply too big for Lucas Valley, named for a 19th century rancher and no relation to the 67-year-old filmmaker. "This is really the last gateway of historic farmland up here," said Liz Dale, an economist who specializes in land policy. "This is a nonsensical location." The neighbors say Lucasfilms Ltd. pulled a stealth move on them, quietly taking a master plan that was passed in 1996 by the county supervisors, and then presenting a revised plan before the planning commission in December with what they say was little public notice. That plan includes a 51-foot-tall, mission-style compound with two 85-foot towers, two indoor sound stages as well as an outdoor stage of nearly 7,000 square feet. There will be screening rooms, guest housing for visiting production teams, a general store and cafeteria for employees, as well as a 4,000-square-foot wine cave for private tastings and storage of the wine and olive oil produced on the working ranches. Lucasfilm hopes to have the necessary permits in place and break ground by next year, with construction taking 18 months to two years. "When the plan was passed in 1996, everybody had George Lucas stars in their eyes and whatever he wanted, they were happy to give," said Rachel Kamman, a water resources engineer who lives in another nearby subdivision. "They wanted him to stay in Marin County," she said. "We still want him to stay in Marin County; people value his job, we value his industry, the creativity, and people think it's reflective of this county. But this is a big-boxed, outsourcing facility with significant unmitigated environmental impact." Lucas' other projects include Skywalker Ranch and Big Rock, all adjoining the Grady compound. Combined, they comprise some 6,100 acres of grassy knolls, valleys and steep hillsides. Yet 95 percent of that land remains undeveloped and protected. Skywalker houses sound and recording studios used for film and television scores and sound effects. Big Rock houses Lucasfilm Animation, multimedia office space and the George Lucas Educational Foundation. More at http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/rural-residents-strike-back-lucas-film-empire-15562545
Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:52 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:04 AM
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SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:07 AM
Quote:The Ranch contains a barn with animals, vineyards, a garden with fruits and vegetables used in the on-site restaurant, an outdoor swimming pool and fitness center with racquetball courts, the man-made "Lake Ewok," a hilltop observatory, a 300-seat theater called "The Stag" as well as multiple theater screening rooms, and parking that is mostly concealed underground to preserve the natural landscape. Skywalker Sound was moved onto the ranch in 1987, now occupying the Technical Building. The Main House has a company research library under a stained-glass dome. Skywalker Ranch has its own fire station, which is part of the Marin County Mutual Aid system, and is often called on to assist firefighters in nearby Marinwood.
Quote:Thirty two homes are proposed for development across LV Road from LV Estates. The development proposed includes high density low income units adjacent to LV road, and 2 story estate units (30 ft roof heights) on knoll hilltops above the valley floor.
Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:12 AM
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Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:54 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:And I look at the charmless city that I live in... wall to wall 1940-1950s suburban homes... and I think UGH. It was all modern in the 1950s, now it looks dated, George Jetson style.
Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:04 AM
Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:40 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:04 PM
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FREMDFIRMA
Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:40 PM
Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:23 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I don't like scraping my knuckles on the ceiling just trying to put on a shirt.
Monday, February 13, 2012 2:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I don't like scraping my knuckles on the ceiling just trying to put on a shirt. As opposed to them dragging the ground the rest of the time ? Oh I could NOT resist that one.... -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Monday, February 13, 2012 7:41 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2:
Monday, February 13, 2012 7:42 AM
Monday, February 13, 2012 7:50 AM
Monday, February 13, 2012 7:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: PIZMO- What, I can't even express my opinion of this horrific architecture?
Monday, February 13, 2012 8:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: PIZMO- What, I can't even express my opinion of this horrific architecture? You no like Florence? Have you seen traditional Hollywood sound stages? WWII airplane hangars... ugly ones... stop hating on poor old Jar Jar Lucas. Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com
Monday, February 13, 2012 8:29 AM
Monday, February 13, 2012 8:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: No, Tony, if this same architecture would provide housing for the homeless it would STILL be ugly! A pseudo castle-villa, with towers (towers???) and a three-story entrance which needs a littler door, kinda like in the Wizard of Oz. So, where's the moat and drawbridge? And, this isn't Florence.
Monday, February 13, 2012 9:09 AM
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Monday, February 13, 2012 9:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: I dunno, I have different ideas of beauty depending on the function of the building. So I guess my first idea of beauty is function. I have a preference for the vertical. But real beauty IMHO rests in nature. I love looking at the winter night sky with crystalline clouds and a haloed moon. Or snow, falling in heavy flakes. I like untended railway rights-of-way, and slow moving creeks surrounded by willows and fields of weeds: bouncing bet, milkweed, and chicory. Beaches rocky and pounding, and calm beaches with sand soft as flour. Rolling midwestern landscape full of grass and a few dotted oaks. Or even the flat, uninspiring landscape of my youth- western New York, full of farms and abandoned farms in their second growth of maples, firs, pines, beeches and chestnuts. I've seen it all, and I love it all. I guess at heart I'm still a country girl.
Monday, February 13, 2012 9:37 AM
Monday, February 13, 2012 2:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, This may be more Prequels backlash... ;-) --Anthony
Monday, February 13, 2012 3:08 PM
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Monday, February 13, 2012 4:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Though I could go with Frem's underground/silo house too, as long as there weren't any spiders.
Monday, February 13, 2012 8:52 PM
OONJERAH
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: The mansion is Spanish style. Very appropriate for California & all the southwest.
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I wouldn't mind one of them leftover missle silo houses, I'd leave the actual house up there as a front and dig in way down deep in the command bunker, oh yeah, supervillain style, baby!
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:20 AM
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BYTEMITE
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:04 AM
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Quote:Will they eat bananas?
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:39 AM
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Niki: Based on the picture you posted, the open design of those Eichler's have an almost oriental aesthetic.
Quote: While I too like a bit of elaborate victorian or art deco, those appear to be far from the worst contemporary designs I've ever seen. At least they aren't 3+ story monstrosities.
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:50 AM
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