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Homegrown Terrorism, Courtesy of the U.S. Government
Friday, February 17, 2012 4:33 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Friday, February 17, 2012 4:56 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Friday, February 17, 2012 5:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: This can't be. Only Bush/Cheney/Haliburton/Rumsfeld would phony up a false terrorist threat , during an election year, and then claim we caught the very guy we all but put up to " attack " us in the 1st place. Right? " I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
Friday, February 17, 2012 5:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Did they do that, too?
Friday, February 17, 2012 5:56 PM
BYTEMITE
Friday, February 17, 2012 6:23 PM
OONJERAH
Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:21 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Sidi Mohamed Amine El Khalifi came to the United States on June 27, 1999 with his parents on a trip to Orlando, Florida. The baby-faced, brown-eyed Moroccan teenager would overstay his tourist visa and remain here for more than a decade, moving from Kissimmee, Florida to Northern Virginia. He worked at odd jobs and had occasional minor scrapes with the law, including a marijuana charge and traffic infractions. Khalifi stayed illegally, never applying for citizenship; he flew under the radar of law enforcement and immigration officials until the early days of 2011. At an apartment in Arlington, Virginia, on Jan. 11, 2011, a confidential informant for the FBI's Counter Terrorism Division reported to his handlers that he watched as El Khalifi, by then, 28 years old, listened as another man said, "The war on terror is a war on Muslims." El Khalifi watched as the man produced an AK-47 rifle, two revolvers and ammunition, and discussed what the group needed to do to be ready to fight back. Over the next year, FBI agents, detectives from the U.S. Capitol Police, and other investigators from the sprawling Joint Terrorism Task Force that covers the National Capitol Region, kept close tabs on El Khalifi. El Khalifi allegedly kept discussing his desires to launch a terrorist attack. The investigators kept gathering intelligence. Over the course of the next several months, {it} became to clear to the Joint Terrorism Task Force investigators and their FBI bosses that El Khalifi was determined to move forward. ..... El Khalifi's alleged plans ranged from attacking a synagogue, to a restaurant frequented by U.S. generals and admirals, and to a building in downtown Arlington that housed Department of Defense offices. According to the FBI, he went so far as to have a gun to shoot his way past Capitol police to get into the building so he could detonate himself inside the Capitol building. When Hussien, Yusuf and El Kahlifi had tested a bomb in a quarry on Jan. 15, 2012, El Khalifi allegedly told the men he believed to be his al Qaeda handlers that he wanted more explosives, a bigger bomb -- if not enough to destroy the whole building,at least enough to kill 30 people. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-57380678-503543/inside-the-plans-of-capitol-bomb-suspect/ that, I doubt we'll ever know. It APPEARS that they discovered him, watched him, decided he was serious and went after him. Whether they were right or wrong is something I can't judge. The two things I can say is he didn't just have an "expired visa", he deliberately stayed for many years and was an illegal alien. Nobody approached him until he himself said he wanted to act. He went so far as to test a bomb...THOSE explosives weren't "fake". And according to the article you posted, "the suspect went out on his own to buy component pieces for an improvised explosive device." Beyond that, I don't know enough to judge.
Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:42 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:In 1993 the FBI was carrying out an identical "sting operation" in New York City. The target was the World Trade Center, the weapon of choice would be a bomb-laden van, that like the above mentioned attacks, was supposed to contain an inert device. Helping the FBI was an Egyptian informant, Emad Salem, who over the course of the investigation grew suspicious of the federal agents and began recording his phone conversations with them. From these recordings released by the New York Times, it turns out that the FBI switched out the inert device for real explosives at the last moment resulting in an attack that killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Despite this evidence, the 1993 bombing is still to this day attributed to "terrorists" with the FBI's involvement muted if ever mentioned. The implications are of course, with the FBI's current nationwide stable of patsies being trained, directed, and provided material support to carry out attacks the FBI then "foils," is at any given moment, any one of these operations can be switched "live" just as in 1993. The resulting carnage can then be used to manipulate public opinion just as it was in 1993, 2001, on 7/7 in London, and in Madrid, Spain in 2004.
Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: It musta been a slow day in Terror Prevention Land. "All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon
Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:19 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, February 20, 2012 4:04 AM
CAVETROLL
Monday, February 20, 2012 7:28 AM
Monday, February 20, 2012 11:03 AM
Monday, February 20, 2012 12:18 PM
Monday, February 20, 2012 12:58 PM
Quote:If reports are correct, you're missing that they only WATCHED him for over a year, until "Over the course of the next several months, {it} became to clear to the Joint Terrorism Task Force investigators and their FBI bosses that El Khalifi was determined to move forward." I assume you'd rather he'd found someone who REALLY wanted to help him and provided him with the REAL tools to do it before they took any action?
Monday, February 20, 2012 2:26 PM
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