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Ten most expensive cities in the U.S., and more

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Monday, February 20, 2012 9:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Your useless trivia for the day:
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Coastal cities continue to dominate Kiplinger’s annual ranking of the most expensive places to live in the U.S. Four are in California, four are along the the eastern seaboard, one is in Hawaii, and one in Alaska.

Above-average housing prices are by far the biggest reason for the high cost of living in these metro areas. While the U.S. real estate market continues to struggle as a whole, home values (and prices) in these places remain exceptionally high. Rising energy costs, especially for gasoline and electricity, are also driving up living expenses along with the rest of the nation.

We ranked the 10 most expensive cities to live with data from the Census Bureau (metropolitan statistical areas only) and the ACCRA Cost of Living Index, which is assembled by the Council for Community and Economic Research. The index measures relative pricing of essentials such as consumer goods, housing, transportation, utilities and health care, to come up with a composite score for each metro area. The national average is 100. So a city that scores above 100 has a higher-than-average cost of living. Population and median household income data are from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey. Details at http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/cities-with-most-expensive-cost-of-
living-2011/1.html?cid=24

New York is first (no surprise), with $63,553 median income, $1.14 million median house price. Honolulu: $63,553 median income; $689,781 median house price. SF: $74,876 median income, $808,481 median house price. I'm actually surprised SF's median house price is under a mil; prices really have come down!

Didn't surprise me that San Jose came in right after SF, and L.A. and San Diego came in 9 and 10. No surprise that Stamford Conn. and Washington DC followed San Jose, but I admit I was taken aback by finding Fairbanks, Alaska coming in seventh! Although, apparently
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It's not housing that drives up living costs here. It's everything else. Groceries cost one-third more than the national average, utilities are double, and health care bills are the highest of all the cities mentioned.
That makes sense.

The calculations as to why each ranks where it does are explained in the article. They also have rankings of the 10 least expensive cities (every other one in Texas, 10 where housing prices have fallen most, 10 where housing prices have held their own best, and what $300,000 buys you to live in around the world. Of course, all this was in June of 2011, so who knows where we are now?

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Monday, February 20, 2012 2:53 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Stanford Con? I never would have thought of that, did I know there was a Stanford Con?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 20, 2012 3:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Wow - has Austin actually fallen out of the top 10? We were always up there with Chicago and SanFran for the last decade or so, and it sure as hell doesn't FEEL any cheaper around here!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, February 20, 2012 5:07 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


What's interesting to me is that the 10 most expensive areas have little relation to the 10 areas with the highest median income.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_counties_in_the_United_Sta
tes


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, February 20, 2012 7:53 PM

WISHIMAY


$300,000 would get you a palace here in the S of Indiana...Almost all of the people I know live in a house valued at less than $120,000, and most of those are 3 bedroom two bath, at least.

'Course the most interesting thing to do here is take potshots with paintball guns at neighborhood critters when they try to get in yer garbage...If that passes for fun for you Yer set...

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:16 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Stanford Con? I never would have thought of that, did I know there was a Stanford Con?




Without being an a-hole, hon, it's StaMford, Conn. I've at least HEARD of it, tho' never been there.

ETA-- sounds like the place is mostly a "bedroom community" for NYC, and home of many corporate headquarters relocated from New York, which may be why you've never heard of it. I hadda look itup to find out that much.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:47 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Geezer:
What's interesting to me is that the 10 most expensive areas have little relation to the 10 areas with the highest median income.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_counties_in_the_United_Sta
tes


"Keep the Shiny side up"




I think there's a valid reason for that, based on what I've seen here in Austin: The most expensive places tend to be those places where people really WANT to live, and as such, wages are actually driven DOWN because there's a constant stream of new, cheaper labor coming in; if you don't want to do the job for a set (low) price, the guy behind you does. Austin certainly has that - low wages relative to cost of living - and much of it is due to the university bringing in a small city's worth of students every year, many of whom need jobs in order to get by.

I'd make less doing my job in some other parts of the state (San Angelo, for instance), but not much less, and the cost of living would be quite a bit less. But Austin is where I want to be.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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But Austin is where I want to be.
WHY, one might ask? (couldn't resist)!

As far as Texas goes, also bear in mind that almost all those bright, shiny, "new jobs" Perry touts so loudly are lower-paying jobs...



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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:05 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
'Course the most interesting thing to do here is take potshots with paintball guns at neighborhood critters when they try to get in yer garbage...If that passes for fun for you Yer set...


Or you could move to the Detroit burbs, where we use paintballs on the skells trying to loot the siding off your house for scrap value, that's fun too.

And yet despite the place lookin like a bombed out warzone (in fact some of the Red Dawn remake was apparently filmed in Detroit), they still can seem to find the money for the most RIDICULOUS things.

School Speed Limit Sign in White Lake Too Complicated?
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/offbeat/speed-limit-sign-in-white
-lake-too-complicated-question-mark-20120214-ms


*facepalm*

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Niki2:
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But Austin is where I want to be.


WHY, one might ask? (couldn't resist)!



Because it's in many ways quite similar to SanFran, or Portland, or Seattle, at least politically and socio-economically. Very liberal (as Texas goes, anyway), very dog-friendly, progressive, etc.

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As far as Texas goes, also bear in mind that almost all those bright, shiny, "new jobs" Perry touts so loudly are lower-paying jobs...



Yup, and many - if not most - of those jobs he's claiming credit for creating (HOW does the government create jobs, exactly, Rick?) are actually GOVERNMENT jobs, too. Perry rails against the big bad federal gubmint, but what he neglects to tell anyone on the campaign trail is that he fights hard to keep the federal government spending money here, because they are the number one employer in the state. You may have heard of the fed's largest job-creator in Texas - a little place called "Fort Hood".

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:14 PM

WISHIMAY


I heard about that sign this morning on the radio when I woke up...You have to wonder if the guy making the sign thought it was a joke. I wonder if they've had any accidents yet from people trying to read it, 'cause my hubbs is soo obsessive he would have to read the whole thing-nevermind the pile of kids we just plowed through...

Y'all use PAINTBALLS on the tresspassers?? I hope you froze 'em , at least
Eh, you can keep 'em, I'll take critters over methheads any day.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:07 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Y'all use PAINTBALLS on the tresspassers??


Shocking, flourescent, neon PINK ones, yeah - having coup counted on you that way is considered a worse humiliation than actually being shot.

Of course, I am kinda left out of the game cause they don't come HERE given that I am security command for this place, and besides, my paintball blaster is a much older model from the dawn of the sport and is 66 caliber rather than 68.

Can't get ammo no more.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:45 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I heard about that sign too, should be easy enough to fix that problem, it is not national news worthy, when I see stuff about Detroit on the news I always say to myself "is that all?" because of the stuff Frem tells us about the state of the city, now that's newsworthy.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:49 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh indeed, although the media has been playing it low key, I am much entertained by watching Bob and his cronies crash and burn cause this was a major finance and laundering pipeline for the collective of goons that Kym Worthy sits in the middle of like an evil damn spider.

By bringing the Feds in, it prevents her from using State resources to squish the investigation as she has every time it's been State-level, and having to jettison his entire pocket empire is going to cost the cabal considerably in political and financial support - so long as one can block them from their intended secondary source, this one is gonna hurt.

Ficano's former top deputy alleges severance cover-up
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120113/METRO01/201130378
There's more TO it, always is, but just like with them PA judges nobody seems to care about what they do to PEOPLE, the so-called justice system and them within it only seem to be concerned they didn't get paid their cut, as usual, but one can turn that against them.

The current secondary source Worthy and the cabal are digging for right now ?
A flood of money from the GOP, courtesy of that punkass bitch Snyder - why would the GOP shovel money into Democratic coffers ?
Well when those Dems are so corrupt they make the GOP scumbags look squeaky clean by comparison, do you really have to ask that question ?
Especially since there's ALREADY been some footsie played on that front when the GOP paid off her soon-to-be-foreclosed properties in exchange for prosecuting Monica Conyers as an act of revenge for her filing State level charges against Bush when her husband John didn't have the friggin balls, AND stacking the court with a Judge INVOLVED IN THE SAME CORRUPTION as Monica and real pissed off he was "bought" so much cheaper than she was.

Oh, and those State level charges, valid as they were, got ignored, since with her lock on the ability to prosecute, Worthy can run or ruin whomever she pleases.

Speaking of wives with more guts than their husbands, that pissant Mike Cox didn't even have the guts to call for Bob to step down, his WIFE had to step in and say it for him - what a punk he is...

Anyhows, one thing you can say about Detroit politics, never a dull moment.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:37 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


(Mike: I was teasing. It being Texas and all...)



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