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Ron Paul wins Virgin Islands, media whores claim win by space alien from planet Kolob!
Monday, March 12, 2012 1:12 AM
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Quote:Check this out at the VI GOP's website: Paul gets more votes, but Romney gets more delegates. So, what do you think the headline will say: Paul wins VI... or Romney? Something tells me the popular vote won't count in this one. (I'm no Paultard, but if they change the rules here it does say something.) How can you read that Paul gets the most votes but gets 1 delegate, but Romney get seven and not start to wonder if the fix is in. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/10/1073247/-Ron-Paul-Wins-Virgin-Islands-Caucuses-Kind-of-?via=recent
Quote:Virgin Islands GOP straw poll Who is your current choice for the Republican Party's Presidential nominee? Ron Paul (88%, 3,603 Votes) http://vigop.com
Quote:Ron Paul got 6 delegates the AP got it wrong here are the actual names of the delegates selected for Paul: The delegate count for Ron Paul at the bottom must be wrong since there are 6 delegates listed as Paul supporters: Robert Max Schanfarber 29 (11 STX, 18 STT) Paul Joshua A. Schanfarber 21 (5 STX, 16 STT) Paul Geoffrey Wolfe 18 (5 STX, 13 STT) Paul Roseann Wells 15 (2 STX, 13 STT) Paul Michael Wilson 15 (2 STX, 13 STT) Paul Eddie Jane Simmons 14 (1 STX, 13 STT) Paul http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNbv47075JA8AyZYEK_X71TXjOww?docId=ac12385cdd4545d28a42cbd82a830e18
Quote:Romney wins Virgin Islands GOP Caucus (AP) – 1 day ago ST. THOMAS, U.S. Virgin Islands (AP) — The Republican Party chairman in the U.S. Virgin Islands says Republican presidential front-runner Mitt Romney has won the territory's GOP caucus. Chairman Herb Schoenbohm says Romney can count on seven delegates from the Virgin Islands. He already had three superdelegates before Saturday's caucuses and he picked up three more in voting in St. Thomas and St. Croix. After the vote, an uncommitted delegate switched to Romney. Ron Paul got one delegate, and one delegate remains uncommitted. Residents of the U.S. Virgin Islands can participate in primaries but like residents of nearby Puerto Rico cannot vote in the general election. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=148381333
Monday, March 12, 2012 3:09 AM
HERO
Monday, March 12, 2012 5:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: First of all winning the Virgin Islands means nothing. Coming in last in the smallest state means more then coming in first in the Virgin Islands. Second, Delegates are often awarded in districts. So say there are ten districts, each with 1000 votes. If Ron Paul wins all the votes in one or two districts and then loses close races in the others, then he would win the popular vote but lose the delegates. So you want a winner take all system because it favors your guy. Fine, what about every other state where he's lost. A winner take all system would take away those few delegates he won. So you want a proportional divide cause it favors your guy. In other words you want the vote counted in the way it favors your guy...welcome to politics as usual. I note for the record, it's time for Ron to go home and fade away. If Ohio can finally rid itself of Dennis Kucinich, then Ron Paul is next to go. H
Quote:In Penobscot County, City of Bangor, the GOP results which you can see here: http://www.mainegop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/me_gop_caucus_results.pdf they have these numbers: Mitt Romney: 26 Ron Paul: 36 Rick Santorum: 9 Newt Gingrich: 4 Other: 2 Total: 0 Add 'em up yourself. The total is 77. http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/8/81922.html
Quote:Ron Paul wins first caucus, but not the delegates Virgin Islands Republican Party speaks out Anticipating a backlash from the Ron Paul campaign for the seemingly unfair and unjust delegate awarding, the Virgin Islands GOP released the following statement hoping to diffuse the outcry before it occurs: “Please note in the VI our rules provide for the election of delegates in a party caucus. Everyone who votes can choose delegates (up to six) who may not necessarily be pledged to the same Presidential candidate. Since Governor Mitt Romney had only three convention delegates running under his name, that gave voters a choice to vote for other committed or non-committed candidates. It appears that out of respect for Congressman Paul’s campaign, there were extra votes to give to other candidates or non-committed candidates. Although Dr. Paul received only one delegate, his team received up to three alternate delegate slots and will be well represented in our small delegation.” Here’s where your author’s experience kicks in. Based on the above statement, here’s what it sounds like happened. Imagine a large ballot sheet. On the left side are the candidates – Paul, Romney, Santorum and Gingrich. Now, completely disregard it as it has nothing to do with the delegates. On the right side of the ballot is an extremely long list of names, perhaps as many as 20. These are the Virgin Island citizens running for 1 of the 6 open ‘delegate’ spots. Each voter can vote for 6 names. Some hopeful delegates are pledged to a specific candidate and have that candidate’s name printed next to theirs on the ballot. Some are not pledged to any one candidate and have the word, ‘uncommitted’ printed next to their names. The Virgin Islands only awards 6 of their 9 delegates based on the votes (the other 3 being super delegates). Since Mitt Romney only had 3 people running for ‘delegate’, he could only win 3 of the 6 delegates up for grabs by vote. Having only 3 on the ballot, his candidates received the top 3 highest vote counts. Ron Paul, based on the VI GOP statement, had more delegate candidates on the ballot and they assumedly split the Ron Paul vote. Based on the way the Virgin Islands GOP awarded the 6 delegates, Mitt Romney received 3 because his only 3 candidates received the most votes. One of Ron Paul’s delegate candidates came in fourth and earned a right to go to the convention. And 2 delegate candidates labeled as ‘uncommitted’ captured the 5th and 6th spots based on actual voting. And as the party official already announced, one of those immediately switched to the Romney campaign. While Texas Congressman Ron Paul may not have won the delegates, he can officially claim to have won his first caucus. The voters of the US Virgin Islands may have split their Ron Paul votes among his many delegates, thus hurting his delegate count. But they still chose Rep. Paul over his three opponents in the popular vote. And that’s enough to put a notch in the freedom-fighting Congressman’s win column. http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-national/ron-paul-wins-first-caucus-but-not-the-delegates
Monday, March 12, 2012 12:05 PM
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