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Restore the Rhino!

POSTED BY: OONJERAH
UPDATED: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:32
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Monday, March 19, 2012 10:52 AM

OONJERAH



Few rhinos survive outside protected areas =>
http://www.worldwildlife.org/species/finder/rhinoceros/rhinos.html

If they die out, what a tragedy! The species is so ancient and unique.
In South Africa, “There are predictions that by 2015 we could have no rhino.”
There are several kinds of rhinos; all are endangered.
There's nothing to argue about here. I'm just sayin'.






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Monday, March 19, 2012 5:45 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Yup rhinos are really cool, and the Asian versions, like the Sumatran rhinos are all small and cute in the their own funny way. What neat animals!

Do you really think a rhino would stamp out a fire like on The Gods Must Be Crazy? I love that movie and we saw it again recently and its funny when the rhino comes barreling out of no where and stomps out the fire and then the woman comes back and the guy says what happened and she doesn't believe him.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, March 19, 2012 6:45 PM

OONJERAH



Quote Riona: "Do you really think a rhino would stamp out a fire like on The Gods Must Be Crazy? I love that movie ..."

No, I don't believe it. So I must see the Gods Must Be Crazy again soon to make sure.
I believe the thing in TGMBC-2, where the bushman makes a backfire to save the white people
who are standing about in perplexed mortal danger.


                   

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Monday, March 19, 2012 7:07 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


The little kids in no. 2 are soooooooooooooooo adorable! Little kids everywhere are, but these ones were of note because the movie centered around them running around without any adults to steal the spotlight and say boring adult things.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:20 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


And what's saddest is that they're killed just for their horns, which are used in traditional Asian medicine. Most horn now goes to China and Vietnam. http://www.envietnam.org/our-work/rhino-horn-trade-in-Vietnam.html

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:57 AM

OONJERAH



Scientists claim the horns have 0 medicinal value.

I wish someone would create and flood the market with synthetic rhino horn, to remove
the poaching profit.



                   

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:53 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Oonjerah, that's a cool idea, then people couldn't make as much money from it and so they wouldn't be as likely to poach. Whenever I hear about people using parts from rare animals for medicine my question is always "What does the science tell us?". If the science has been done and it tells us that the remody does nothing then I can condemn such behavior without that little kournal of "what if" doubt, so you know I'm always happy when science has been applied to this problem. Otherwise if those parts did have some sort of real application we'd need to think of ways to make something synthetic to use instead of killing the animal, and poachers would always be able to try and justify it by saying "the real thing's better". But since science says the real thing is bunk they don't really have a leg to stand on with world opinion.

I watched this really interesting, and sad, expose about tigers in China, tiger farms who didn't take care of their tigers right at all and then snuck and used them for parts etc. The guy was easily able to procure both wild and farmed tiger parts (of course he wasn't actually trying to get them, just trying to show how easy it is to get them.)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:26 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Riona, it's not just a joke, it's a legend:
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There are quite a number of legends about the rhinoceros stamping out fire. The story seems to have been common in Malaysia and Burma.

This type of rhinoceros even had a special name in Malay, 'badak api', where badak means rhinoceros and api means fire. The animal would come when a fire is lit in the forest and stamp it out.

If there is or can be any truth in the legend, it would be hard to decide. Suffice it to say that there has been no sighting of this phenomenon in recent history. http://www.sosrhino.com/knowledge/faq.php

I'm sure it came from some experience someone had which they interpreted as the rhino stomping out the fire, tho' it must have been more than one instance to start some kind of legend. I'm equally sure it's not true and there was something else at the base of it, but it sure did work! Gods Must Be Crazy is one of my all-time favorite movies, for so many reasons, both that it's funnier than hell, sadder than hell (the idea of him dying if caged up, for one) and done so well. It's one of those rare movies that comes along which, with little money and no big-name stars, caught the funny bone of the audience and made it a hit.

The taking of rhinos just for their horns isn't something I will get into, or you will see smoke arising from my post. Its equivalent is the dismemberment of sharks for their fins, then tossing them back to die a horrible death. If I got started on either one, or so many others...



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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:46 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Yeah ya gotta love watching those Kalahari Bushmen.

The scene in number two where he is reunited with his children is one of the most purely joyous scenes I've ever seen in a movie. Its so fun listening to them talk too. I know there are several groups of people in Africa who use those clicking sounds in their languages.

That's cool that the fire thing is an actual legend and not just something made up for the movie Niki.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:32 PM

OONJERAH



Bloomberg News: King’s Elephant Hunt is Disgrace to Humanity (Commentary) =>
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-18/king-s-elephant-hunt-is-di
sgrace-to-humanity-commentary


It’s been a terrible week for King Juan Carlos of Spain and,
more importantly, for elephants.

The 74-year-old potentate broke his hip trying to slaughter
elephants on a hunt in Botswana.

News of his accident didn’t play well back home, where high
unemployment and bad loans darken Spain’s economic future.

Unsurprisingly, the king soon apologized for not hanging
around to render comfort to his anxious citizens and lament
the rising deficit.

Astonishingly, the King is the honorary president of World
Wildlife Fund Spain, a conservation group that takes a dim
view of shooting animals.



. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.


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Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:12 PM

CATPIRATE


South Africa has alot of problems half the population has HIV. There is white genocide. Baby rapers on the rampage. I don't think the rino has much of a chance with the goverment and people of that country.

The world in ancient outside the US borders.

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Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:12 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I always forget that Spain has a king.

I couldn't eat elephant, they are so smart and I don't really feel good about eating really smart animals, except for pigs, because I really like bacon et al.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:54 PM

OONJERAH



I love ham and bacon; so do my cats. At the grocery store, I may reach for it.
Then I remember: No Pig!

A reliable acquaintance of mine was raised farming pigs in the midWest. He
said some of them faint over knowing they are to be shipped off, even before
the truck comes to get them. "They know," he said.

On the silly side, I like to pretend that all pigs are descended from those Men
that Circe turned into swine. Guess she must have turned some women into
sows, as well.



. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.


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Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:45 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


So did you stop eating them because of what your friend said?

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:57 PM

OONJERAH



I'd had it in my mind for years, because pigs are so intelligent.
Some will bond with people. Others are cranky or even vicious.
I stopped eating pork last year because of what he said.
Bacon sure is good, tho.

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Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:59 PM

OONJERAH



Silent Spring - Silent Hives =>
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2012/04/new-studies-colo
ny-collapse-disorder.html?mbid=gnep&google_editors_picks=true


The Pennsylvania beekeeper Dave Hackenberg was one of the first to draw attention to the
problem of Colony Collapse Disorder, or C.C.D., and, as a result, he became a celebrity,
at least in apian circles. I interviewed Hackenberg in the spring of 2007, and he told me
he didn’t believe that the culprit was a virus or a fungus or stress. Instead, he blamed
a new class of pesticides called neonicotinoids. Now it looks like Hackenberg was onto
something.

Over the last few weeks, several new studies have come out linking neonicotinoids to bee
decline. As it happens, the studies are appearing just as “Silent Spring,” Rachel Carson’s
seminal study of the effect of pesticides on wildlife, is about to turn fifty: the work was
first published as a three-part series in The New Yorker, in June, 1962. It’s hard to avoid
the sense that we have all been here before, and that lessons were incompletely learned the
first time around.



. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.


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Monday, April 23, 2012 10:32 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I've been wondering about that, since I haven't heard anything new about it in a while, I know that bees have been on the decline for the last several years, back in the mid to late 00s I remember first hearing about it. :(

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

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