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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"Mission Accomplished" indeed!
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A spate of car bombings rocked Iraq on Tuesday, the ninth anniversary of the U.S. invasion and days before the nation hosts a meeting of Arab leaders.

The violence left at least 43 people dead and 206 wounded, officials said.

No one immediately claimed responsibility for the blasts that one senior Interior Ministry official described as "coordinated" and blamed on al Qaeda in Iraq.

The official, who did not want to be named because he's not authorized to speak to the media, said the attacks were meant to send a message that the militant group -- despite gains made by Iraqi security forces -- is still able to carry out daily attacks.

Attacks took place in Baghdad, Kirkuk, Karbala, Hilla, Tikrit, Baiji, Ramadi, Mosul, Falluja, Diyala province, Salaheddin province, Samarra and Mahmoudiya.

Some of them targeted police or government facilities.

In central Falluja, a pregnant woman was killed and her 6-year-old child wounded by bombs insurgents planted around a house belonging to a police officer, police in the city said.

In Tikrit, a car bombing outside a school wounded four teachers. The attack in Hilla targeted a juvenile detention center; two attacks in Karbala targeted police stations; an army convoy was attacked in Ramadi; and a parked car exploded in front of the Foreign Ministry in Baghdad, officials said.

The highest death tolls came from a series of car bomb attacks in Kirkuk, Baghdad and Karbala that killed 11 people in each city.

The violence is the worst since February 23, when 44 people were killed and more than 200 were wounded in a string of attacks.

Iraqi officials have expressed concern that the continuing violence could cast a shadow as the country prepares to host the next Arab League summit on March 29.

The attacks on Tuesday come nine years to the day since a U.S.-led army invaded Iraq on March 20, 2003, toppling longtime dictator Saddam Hussein.

The United States argued Hussein's regime had been harboring forbidden stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, long-range missiles and a nuclear weapons program.

Inspectors later found that Baghdad had attempted to conceal some weapons-related research from the international community, but that Iraq had been effectively disarmed under U.N. sanctions in the 1990s.

The invasion swiftly toppled Hussein, who was later executed for the massacre of Shiite villagers following an assassination attempt in the 1980s.

But years of bloodshed followed the invasion as an insurgency led by Hussein's allies took root, followed by sectarian warfare between Iraq's Shiite majority and its Sunni minority.

Nearly 4,500 Americans and 300-plus allied troops were killed before the last American troops left in December, while estimates of the Iraqi toll run well above 100,000. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/20/world/meast/iraq-violence/index.html

Yes siree, bub; we sure cleaned up THAT country!!

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



The mission of the Abe Lincoln was , in fact, accomplished.

That you feel giddy in the deaths of so many , or feel the need to besmirch the duty of our military, is truly despicable.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:23 AM

HERO


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
That you feel giddy in the deaths of so many , or feel the need to besmirch the duty of our military...


I'm sure its both.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:17 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The mission of the Abe Lincoln was , in fact, accomplished.

That you feel giddy in the deaths of so many , or feel the need to besmirch the duty of our military, is truly despicable.




This from the douche-canoe who offered a "people die" and a shrug when kids were murdered in school, and actively called for the death of a decorated veteran.

And the mission of the Abe Lincoln wasn't accomplished. The battle for Iraq was not over, and it still isn't, 9 years after the invasion. But keep trying to spin it, 'cause that never gets old.


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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



You literally don't know what in the hell you're talking about, Kwickie.

Par for the course.

John Murtha lied, and falsely accused US soldiers of crimes they did not commit. He all but stabbed our boys in the back. Shame on him still.

http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2010/02/john-murtha-remembered
.html


"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:25 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Crap. :( It seems like those countries are just always going to be like that and there's nothing we or they can really do to fix it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

You literally don't know what in the hell you're talking about, Kwickie.

Par for the course.



"First, the standard insult , of anyone who doesn't agree, as being less intelligent, uninformed, or otherwise too unenlightened..."


Who said that?

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:41 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

You literally don't know what in the hell you're talking about, Kwickie.

Par for the course.



"First, the standard insult , of anyone who doesn't agree, as being less intelligent, uninformed, or otherwise too unenlightened..."


Who said that?



I did, and you know I did. Or did you forget already ? Point of fact, the Abe Lincoln had a specific mission, for which it absolutely did complete. You claiming otherwise, is nothing short of sheer ignorance.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

You literally don't know what in the hell you're talking about, Kwickie.

Par for the course.



"First, the standard insult , of anyone who doesn't agree, as being less intelligent, uninformed, or otherwise too unenlightened..."


Who said that?



I did, and you know I did. Or did you forget already ? Point of fact, the Abe Lincoln had a specific mission, for which it absolutely did complete. You claiming otherwise, is nothing short of sheer ignorance.




First, the standard insult , of anyone who doesn't agree, as being less intelligent, uninformed, or otherwise too unenlightened...



"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." - Dubya, "Mission Accomplished" speech.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:58 PM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

You literally don't know what in the hell you're talking about, Kwickie.

Par for the course.



"First, the standard insult , of anyone who doesn't agree, as being less intelligent, uninformed, or otherwise too unenlightened..."


Who said that?



Wasn't he taking a week off for getting caught name-calling? Is the week over already? Damn.

Some of would have taken the time out as an opportunity to rethink their behavior. I am not surprised that this one did none of that.


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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:50 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

First, the standard insult , of anyone who doesn't agree, as being less intelligent, uninformed, or otherwise too unenlightened...



I see that , since you can't deal w/ the issues from THIS thread, you have to , once again, go digging up completely out of context quotes from other discussions, as if they some how pertain to what's going on here.

They don't.

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Wasn't he taking a week off for getting caught name-calling? Is the week over already? Damn.

Some of would have taken the time out as an opportunity to rethink their behavior. I am not surprised that this one did none of that.



The week was over on Sun nite. Do try to keep up.

I didn't " get caught" name calling. I finished 2nd in Riona's name-calling survey. I took it upon myself to take a week off. Too bad bad others didn't show as much introspection.

" Some of would " ? Huh?

I guess you're trying to say that the time off I DID take should have been for... what ? Less name calling ? I didn't call anyone here a name - yet.

And I'm the only one who did any such thing, voluntarily, on my own. 1kiki, who I believe 'won' the survey, by a good margin, did no such thing, no such introspection on her part.

But you'll ignore all that, huh?


"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:40 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Crap. :( It seems like those countries are just always going to be like that and there's nothing we or they can really do to fix it.



Unfortunately, this seems to be the case. Yet folks are still wanting us to "do something" about Syria, Sudan, Uganda, etc.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Crap. :( It seems like those countries are just always going to be like that and there's nothing we or they can really do to fix it.



Unfortunately, this seems to be the case. Yet folks are still wanting us to "do something" about Syria, Sudan, Uganda, etc.




KONY 2012 !!

Kony 2012 filmmaker nude, swearing in San Diego street rant — VIDEO



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree with Geezer and Riona. I long ago detailed the problems with trying to impose our sort of government on the Middle East, which has historically been "governed" (I use the word loosely) by tribal leaders. I once again recommend the scene in Lawrence of Arabia in which he tries to get the tribal leaders to take responsibility for the tasks assigned to them, i.e., water, electricity, etc., and it devolves into arguments. Anyone who wants to know why our policies don't work there would better understand why they don't if they watch that scene, as it epitomizes the problem.

Not only does our way not work, our government seems determined not to SEE that American democracy can't be thrust upon people whose entire history is so vastly different from it that only slow evolution has any chance of bringing it about. The don't educate our soldiers to prepare them for a culture shock unlike any other (perhaps omitting Africa). If they were prepared, they would have had a better chance in Afghanistan; but whether out of ignorance or expediency, our military has never bothered preparing our forces to the degree necessary for them to be effective, yet we bungle our efforts again and again. Until THAT changes, nothing else will.

Kony 2012 has no relevance whatsoever; it's offered as a "neener neener" against...what, someone's effort to stop the atrocities of Kony? More likely some effort to...actually, I don't know WHAT. It has nothing to do with the thread, and if it's an effort to deride someone who is trying to bring to the attention of the world horrors happening, who for one reason or another lost control, it's pretty ridiculous and in essence could be seen as being in FAVOR of the atrocities...?

It certainly has nothing to do with potential American involvement in the situation, given it's very far down the list of things we're involved in or could potentially BE involved in, so it can't be that...



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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:58 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

John Murtha lied, and falsely accused US soldiers of crimes they did not commit. He all but stabbed our boys in the back. Shame on him still.


But he did get that airport that nobody uses in the stimulas plan...I hear that after millions of dollars refurbishing it they can now boast over ten passangers/day.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
But he did get that airport that nobody uses in the stimulas plan...I hear that after millions of dollars refurbishing it they can now boast over ten passangers/day.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.



That many ? I guess ridership has gone up, since the word of mouth has spread.

Good ol John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport.





"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:40 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Kony 2012 has no relevance whatsoever; it's offered as a "neener neener" against...what, someone's effort to stop the atrocities of Kony? More likely some effort to...actually, I don't know WHAT. It has nothing to do with the thread, and if it's an effort to deride someone who is trying to bring to the attention of the world horrors happening, who for one reason or another lost control, it's pretty ridiculous and in essence could be seen as being in FAVOR of the atrocities...?

It certainly has nothing to do with potential American involvement in the situation, given it's very far down the list of things we're involved in or could potentially BE involved in, so it can't be that...



Niki, you said it yourself, that you agreed w/ Riona...

And, as to what I was commenting on

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:


Originally posted by RionaEire:
Crap. :( It seems like those countries are just always going to be like that and there's nothing we or they can really do to fix it.



Unfortunately, this seems to be the case. Yet folks are still wanting us to "do something" about Syria, Sudan, Uganda, etc.



As noble as it is to try and put a stop to such atrocities, there's more than a few folks who are suspicious as the the motives behind KONY 2012. Like the folks who are living in Uganda, right now, for example. They wonder where all this ' awareness ' was, back when Kony actually was killing them, instead of now, after it's been 6 years since he's been gone. That, plus the fact that, all the good intentions in the world don't seem to be able to significantly affect what everyone agrees is down right intolerable.

Much like the weather, folks complain, but no one can do a damn thing about it. ( and hell no, I'm NOT trying to work in a global warming snark, not this time )







"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

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