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FEINSTEIN: 'I'VE NEVER SEEN WORSE' INTELLIGENCE LEAKS
Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:39 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) said Wednesday she has “never seen it worse” regarding recent national security leaks in a series of reported stories that contained sensitive national security details. ... The House and Senate Intelligence Committees announced Wednesday they would draft new laws concerning leaks of classified and sensitive information. Feinstein is chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. "I am deeply disturbed by the continuing leaks of classified information to the media, most recently regarding alleged cyber efforts targeting Iran’s nuclear program," (she said). Read more: http://times247.com/articles/feinstein-i-ve-never-seen-worse-intel-leaks#ixzz1xPufqPQR
Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:01 AM
WHOZIT
Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:20 AM
CHRISISALL
Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:06 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:03 PM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:41 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:New York Times: Obama Ordered the Stuxnet Attack on Iran Obama asked his national security advisers whether the attack should be halted at a White House Situation Room meeting convened days after the virus “escaped”, but decided to intensify it instead. Commentators suggested that confirmation of American involvement in Stuxnet had been released by others to neutralize any Republican election claims that President Obama has been soft on Iran. “Obama wanted to get credit for Stuxnet, as that makes him look tough against Iran,” said Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at F-Secure, one of the security firms that have investigated Stuxnet. “And he needs that as Presidential elections are coming.” The report comes several days after Iranian security experts reported that Flame, a virus far more dangerous than the Stuxnet worm, struck the country's computer systems. The virus, described by the Kaspersky Internet security firm as the “most sophisticated cyber-weapon yet unleashed”, struck at least 600 specific computer systems in Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority. Iran later admitted that its oil industry was briefly affected by Flame, but claimed that Iranian experts had detected and defeated the virus. It is not known who was behind the virus, but Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya'alon appeared to hint in a radio interview Tuesday that Israel is behind the malware. Asked about the attack, Ya'alon told IDF Radio: “Whoever sees the Iranian threat as a meaningful threat – it is reasonable he would take various measures, including this one.” “Israel has been blessed with being a state rich in top level high-tech. These tools that we take pride in open up various possibilities for us,” he added. The semi-official Iranian news agency Fars seized upon Ya’alon's statements as proof that Israel engineered the Flame virus. “The Vice Prime Minister of the Zionist regime admitted the role of the regime in creating the virus Flame for cyber espionage in the Middle East, and especially in Iran,” Fars stated. "Moshe Ya’alon's statements today are an additional confirmation of Israel's role in developing the malicious program.” http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156451 http://techland.time.com/2012/06/01/report-obama-israel-behind-stuxnet-worm-and-accelerated-iran-cyberattacks/
Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's NOT just a game.
Quote:Had you been following the details, not only does this put the US in a bad light,
Quote:it also makes it harder for our own allies to trust us.
Quote:If we're going to betray THEIR trust, why should they stick their necks out to help us
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:08 PM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:15 PM
HKCAVALIER
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Sorry, but I can't follow your tin foil hat comments on what was the cause of 9-11.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Sorry, but I can't follow your tin foil hat comments on what was the cause of 9-11. Fuck you. You can't follow shit. I don't know why I keep trying. You STILL don't know the cause of 9-11, you STILL don't know why we went into Iraq, and IT'S ALL OUT THERE TO BE LEARNED, but you won't learn it. You blame Obama for a slip of the tongue (mind) but you blame no rightie for TORTURE & DEATH!!!! I say Obama is a stupid politician at best, & a scumbag at worst, and you STILL call him Mr. Wonderful like we should be personally insulted or something!! You are just too disconnected, man. You don't even TRY. Peace, out.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: HK - Ms Feinstein isn't BLAMING Obama for this, but simply stating the seriousness of these leaks. Can't you at LEAST acknowledge that much ?
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: I was responding to PN. HKCavalier
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: I was responding to PN. HKCavalier I generally ignore PN, and those responses directed towards PN. Pardon for the mishap.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:44 PM
BYTEMITE
Quote:There is absolutely no reason for the Obama Admin. to purposefully leak this stuff
Sunday, June 10, 2012 3:14 PM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Quote:There is absolutely no reason for the Obama Admin. to purposefully leak this stuff ...Military intelligence does just fine all by themselves. *rim shot* But seriously, these aren't leaks. No one ever confirmed that Israel had programmed a virus to attack the Iranian nuclear program. Well until NOW, anyway. Good going there, guys, they won't crack that one. Basically people used logic and connected the dots. It's called JOURNALISM, which is something of a lost art.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm sort of at a loss
Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm sort of at a loss Alert us when something is new, okay?
Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I admit. I was wrong.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: But since they are, I'm all out of sympathy for pretty much all of them.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Maybe if the not-leaks weren't about a nation of jerks doing underhanded nonsense to another nation of jerks, and potentially setting a precedence for future cyberattacks with very dangerous and infrastructure damaging viruses that we probably should both know about and know where they come from, I would care more. But since they are, I'm all out of sympathy for pretty much all of them. Israel doesn't like that the world found out about their shenanigans? Best news I've heard all day.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:43 PM
Quote:Because cyber hi-jinx to stop or slow down the threat of thermonuclear hi-jinx, is such a big fucking deal, huh? And 'Israel's' shenanigans ? How about OUR shenanigans.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:58 PM
Monday, June 11, 2012 1:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Dabbling a bit in hyperbole, perhaps?
Monday, June 11, 2012 2:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Dabbling a bit in hyperbole, perhaps? Of course you are, but we're all used to it.
Monday, June 11, 2012 3:53 AM
Monday, June 11, 2012 4:36 AM
DREAMTROVE
Monday, June 11, 2012 5:03 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Wasted asshattery
Monday, June 11, 2012 6:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Quote:Wasted asshattery Yeah, but if were about Repubs, Raptor would no reason to post it!
Monday, June 11, 2012 6:53 AM
Quote: Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Peter King (R-NY), sat down with Jamie Colby today on America’s News HQ to discuss the investigation into the leaks on counter-terrorism programs. Congressman King said, “This is the most shameful cascade of leaks I’ve ever heard or seen in government. We’re not talking about an incidental leak coming out … We’re talking about leaks involving two of the most sensitive programs in the United States government.” He said it’s “clear” from those stories published in The New York Times that the information “came from the White House, came right from the National Security Council, came right from the Situation Room.” Rep. King continued, “For the president to say he’s outraged by this … how come he said nothing about it until a few of us, including John McCain, stood up and took him to task for it.”
Monday, June 11, 2012 9:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: this is about national security, which trumps party affiliation. Or should.
Monday, June 11, 2012 11:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: Chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Peter King (R-NY), sat down with Jamie Colby today on America’s News HQ to discuss the investigation into the leaks on counter-terrorism programs. Congressman King said, “This is the most shameful cascade of leaks I’ve ever heard or seen in government. We’re not talking about an incidental leak coming out … We’re talking about leaks involving two of the most sensitive programs in the United States government.” He said it’s “clear” from those stories published in The New York Times that the information “came from the White House, came right from the National Security Council, came right from the Situation Room.” Rep. King continued, “For the president to say he’s outraged by this … how come he said nothing about it until a few of us, including John McCain, stood up and took him to task for it.” http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/10/rep-peter-king-national-security-leaks-came-from-the-white-house/
Monday, June 11, 2012 11:42 AM
Quote:Nothing trumps party affiliation. Nothing. You and Fox News have proven that.
Monday, June 11, 2012 11:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: this is about national security, which trumps party affiliation. Or should. Nothing trumps party affiliation. Nothing. You and Fox News have proven that.
Monday, June 11, 2012 11:58 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, June 11, 2012 12:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Idiot.
Monday, June 11, 2012 12:07 PM
Monday, June 11, 2012 12:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I didn't lie. Sorry. You fail.
Monday, June 11, 2012 12:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall:
Monday, June 11, 2012 12:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Note how Chrissy replies when proven wrong. He doesn't even attempt to make his case, he just posts a pic of himself crying.
Monday, June 11, 2012 12:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Note how Chrissy replies when proven wrong. He doesn't even attempt to make his case, he just posts a pic of himself crying. So stop upsetting me!
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