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Vice President Ron Paul
Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:40 AM
PIRATENEWS
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Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:04 AM
WHOZIT
Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:35 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Will VP Paul still be cashing his Social Security check he says is unconstitutional?
Quote:Ron Paul Proposes Interesting Salary For Himself As President This is a man who would eliminate five of the 15 cabinet-level departments (Commerce, Education, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, and Interior – he has no problem reciting them all); recall American troops from all foreign lands, not just war zones; repeal the 16th Amendment, which created the federal income tax; reduce his own presidential salary from $400,000 to $39,336 – the median salary of an American worker. Paul's grandfather, Casper, fled the economic wreckage of post-World War I Germany and went to work in the Pittsburgh steel mills at age 14. Ron Paul grew up on stories about rampant inflation and the dangers of paper currency. "I remember my grandmother wanting to hang onto some property my dad thought she should sell," he says. "And she said, `No. The money might go bad.'" Casper eventually saved up enough to buy some land outside the city. He started a small vegetable and chicken farm, then opened a dairy, which his sons eventually took over and relocated to nearby Carnegie. Ron Paul's first job was making sure no dirty bottles made it to the filling crates. He was paid a penny per bottle; when they were old enough, the Paul boys – all five of whom shared one bedroom – took over the summer milk routes to give the drivers some time off. His brother Jerry says Ronnie was no goodie two-shoes. In fact, he was kicked out of school – twice. The first time was for allegedly bribing a grade school chum "two bits" to throw a baseball through a window. The second was for bringing firecrackers to Dormont High – and that time he ratted on himself. "He couldn't stand the principals who were dictatorial," Jerry says. "He would call them fascists." He refused to vote for any tax increase or any budget that was not balanced, and eschewed most "pork barrel" projects for his district. He even voted against awarding Congressional Gold Medals to Mother Teresa, Nancy and Ronald Reagan, and civil rights icon Rosa Parks – though he suggested his colleagues "each put in 100 bucks" to pay for the $30,000 cost of a medal for Parks. He has refused to enroll in the House pension program, saying it would be "hypocritical and immoral" to accept a benefit unavailable to the taxpayers who fund it. He also discouraged his five children – including the future Kentucky U.S. senator and tea party darling Rand Paul – from applying for government-backed student loans. During a news conference at the Greenville airport, Paul – looking, as always, slightly rumpled in his workaday suit and sensible shoes – laughs when asked if throwing thousands of federal employees out of work in the current down economy is a good idea. "Let `em go to work at McDonald's," he says, his brown eyes twinkling impishly beneath untamed eyebrows. "They should have a REAL job. Bureaucrats don't create wealth. They interfere with wealth production." When the candidate arrives, the cheering crowd leaps to its feet. He then launches into a 33-minute, no-notes speech covering everything from 19th-century French economist Frederic Bastiat to the right to consume raw milk. He speaks repeatedly of our "recession/depression" and says the "No. 1 cause" of the current financial crisis was the Federal Reserve. "THEY are the ones who are responsible for so much suffering," he says, his already high-pitched voice rising to a near squeak. The Fed, he declares, is a "counterfeiter." The crowd chants the title of one of Paul's books: "End the Fed! End the Fed!" When late-night comedian Jon Stewart recently asked Paul why he keeps running, the representative replied: "I think if you plant a seed, it tends to grow." Years ago, Paul says, a congressional colleague slipped a laminated piece of paper into his hand. It was a passage from Elie Wiesel's 1970 book, "One Generation After." In it, a child asks the one "Just Man" why he walks the streets of Sodom railing against wickedness, when he knows it is hopeless. The man replies: "if I continue my protest, at least I will prevent others from changing me." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/10/ron-paul-proposes-interes_n_1140723.html
Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:42 PM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: I went to go confirm this report about Ron Paul and social security, and it has been reported across many major media stations today. Either this is a group effort to discredit him or this story is true. If true, it is disappointing.
Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:07 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:16 PM
Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Hello, I think you'll find that this falls under the same philosophy as his earmarks. i.e. he votes against spending bills and then earmarks all the funds he can. If they're giving it away, he'll take some, even while suggesting they stop giving it away.
Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Hello, I think you'll find that this falls under the same philosophy as his earmarks. i.e. he votes against spending bills and then earmarks all the funds he can. If they're giving it away, he'll take some, even while suggesting they stop giving it away. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement or a principled stand to me. He could as easily NOT take the money, right? "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
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