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Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:25 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Quote: To All: Just thought you'd like to chew on these stats for a while. It paints a scary picture of the economy if Obama gets in and the Dems get control of the Congress again. No, I did not check them out with the Library of Congress or any other place:-) However, I've seen or read many of these stats on TV, the Internet, and news magazines. This is just something you should give some thought to prior to November. Remember one thing... It's not just Obama whose caused the economic problems of our nation. IT'S THE CONGRESS!!! Think of that when you vote in November. Just passin it on..........Please read the last section, if you think this cannot or wont happen in your state....you are sadly mistakenThis is a real easy view of our current president's accomplishments. I would suggest that you pass this one to those who do not follow politics and vote. Interesting statisticsCharts on the Obama Years NOW for the final exam: 1. Why is California so broke? California Just One State , this is only one State............... If this doesn't open your eyes nothing will ! From the L. A. Times 1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal aliens working without a green card. 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most-wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. (All 8 of the above statements are from the Los Angeles Times) Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens. This is only one State. the Nancy Pelosi crowd wants them all to become voters!
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:27 PM
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:56 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:No, I did not check them out with the Library of Congress or any other place:-) However, I've seen or read many of these stats on TV, the Internet, and news magazines
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:57 PM
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:59 PM
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:12 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:It's not just Obama whose caused the economic problems of our nation.
Quote:IT'S THE CONGRESS!!!
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:13 PM
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:14 PM
Quote:The power of the Internet (and the compulsion of many Internet users to forward anything marked "forward" that lands in their inboxes) has kept a list of mostly incorrect immigration myths in circulation for over a year. Because many of these myths had been attributed to The Times, this blog debunked them in two earlier posts. Now we present them again below, hopefully preempting any flurry of email-forwarding that may follow tomorrow's protest. Fact" 1: Less than two percent of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Factual basis? Pew Hispanic Center found last year that four percent of illegal immigrants work in farming (compared to 0.5% of the native population). Most illegal immigrants work in services (31%) or construction (19%). Illegal immigrants are generally barred from receiving welfare (they can access emergency medical care and a K-12 education). The tough-on-illegal-immigration think tank Center for Immigration Studies reports in 2004: In terms of welfare use, receipt of cash assistance programs tends to be very low, while Medicaid use, though significant, is still less than for other households. Only use of food assistance programs is significantly higher than that of the rest of the population. CIS goes on to state that, on balance, illegal immigrants take more in services than they pay in taxes, but that is disputed. "Fact" 4: 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens. Factual Basis? Thirty seven percent of inmates in federal prisons are noncitizens, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The number of them that are illegal immigrants isn't offered by the Bureau, though they do note that 10% of the offenses are immigration-related. [UPDATE: A new study (pdf) points out that immigrants -- legal and illegal -- have lower incarceration rates than native-born residents.] "Fact" 1: 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card. LAT citations: None. Factual basis: The Economic Roundtable, a research outfit affiliated with the Los Angeles County government, concluded in a December 2005 report [PDF] that the low-end estimate for LA County workers working for cash is 322,400 and the high end is 972,500 in 2000. From this, the Economic Roundtable paper extrapolates a mid-range 2004 estimate of 679,000, or 15% of the workforce. (Note that the total workforce of Los Angeles County is about 4.5 million, while the total population is closer to 10 million.) "Fact" 2: 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. LAT citations: May 15, 2005 — "According to Heather MacDonald of the Manhattan Institute, 95% of the hundreds of outstanding homicide warrants (and 60% of outstanding felony warrants) in L.A. are for illegal immigrants." Similar citations: January 19, 2004 Factual basis: An outstanding warrant is quite a different beast than a regular warrant, so this "fact" left out the key word. We did some more checking on the outstanding warrants point itself. MacDonald stated this in a 2004 City Journal article, and in testimony before the House of Representatives in spring 2005, noting that this came to 1,200-1,500 warrants. One LAPD officer cited the same factoid in the National Review earlier this year, saying that it's specific to "the first half of 2004". But Jane Robison, press secretary for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, told us that the D.A. does not keep track of this number; a representative with Detective Headquarters said the same. "Fact" 3: 75% of people on the Most Wanted List in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. LAT citations: None. Factual basis: We can't locate such a fact anywhere. The Los Angeles Police Department's most wanted list contains a number of people with unknown or obscured identities, suggesting that tallying the legal status of everyone on the list would be very difficult if not impossible. Ditto for the FBI's most-wanted list. "Fact" 4: Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers. LAT citations: Jan. 15, 1999 — "As many as 70,000 illegal immigrants a year use state-funded prenatal services." (Similar citations: Jan. 14, 1999, June 12, 1998, March 6, 1998, Jan. 30, 1998, Jan. 4, 1998, Dec. 18, 1997, Aug. 26, 1997, July 10, 1997, Feb. 6, 1997, Nov. 13, 1996, Nov. 5, 1996, Nov. 2, 1996, OCt. 24, 1996, Oct. 17, 1996) Feb. 14, 1999 — "Two-thirds of all births here are to foreign-born mothers." (Similar citation: July 25, 2004 — "40% of the births in California are to foreign-born women.") July 7, 1998 — "[Rep. Elton] Gallegly [(R-Simi Valley)] cited a 1990-91 Los Angeles County study that showed that two-thirds of the women giving birth in public hospitals were undocumented." (Similar citations: Oct. 2, 1995, July 19, 1995, June 11, 1995, Jan. 27, 1995, Nov. 21, 1993, Sept. 13, 1993, Aug. 17, 1993, Aug. 1, 1993, May 28, 1992, Apr. 2, 1992, Oct. 26, 1991, Oct. 24, 1991) Factual basis: None of these citations establishes the "fact" above. According to the California Department of Health Services, 158,782 babies were born in L.A. County in 2001 (these are the most recent statistics available online). Of these, 99,089 were to Hispanic mothers. That's just under 2/3 — 62.4% for all Hispanic moms, which would include legal and undocumented mothers from Mexico as well as other countries. "Fact" 5: Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. LAT citations: May 1, 2005, in an op-ed by Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Col.) — "More than 10% of the inmates in U.S. jails and prisons are illegal aliens, and in California it is more than 20%." July 11, 2004 — "Each year, the [Los Angeles] County Jail system processes about 170,000 inmates, and federal officials estimate that a fourth of them are illegal immigrants. But with just a fraction of the foreign-born being questioned, officials say it is impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrants are in the system and how much the county should receive in federal compensation." (Similar citations for Riverside County, Apr. 12, 2006; Anaheim city, Nov. 5, 1997, June 27, 1996; Los Angeles County, Jan. 25, 1996, Jan. 15, 1996, July 10, 1995, May 23, 1995; state and county, Nov. 27, 1993, June 1, 1993, Oct. 19, 1992, Oct. 6, 1992, Aug. 4, 1992, Aug. 18, 1991, Dec. 16, 1990, Dec. 4, 1985) Factual basis: The 25% figure could be approximately correct for state and federal prisons in California, or correct for county, at least as of 2004. But "detention centers" is an extremely broad term that could include all juvenile detention facilities, federal prisons, state prisons, and county jails in California's 58 counties — making this figure very tough to come by. The San Francisco Chronicle offered a lower figure for state prisons on May 4: "Of the nearly 171,000 inmates crowding state prisons, 22,478, or about 13 percent as of March 31, are undocumented immigrants or are suspected of being undocumented." The Federation for American Immigration Reform, a group in favor of reducing immigration, offers a lower figure for L.A. County jails: "Deportable aliens comprise 11% of the Los Angeles County jail population costing the county an estimated $75 million a year." "Fact" 6: Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. LAT citations: Jan. 31, 1994 — "As many as 100,000 families in Los Angeles County are believed to be living in bootlegged apartments or illegally converted garages." May 24, 1987 — "A systematic survey by The Times indicates that about 42,000 garages are sheltering about 200,000 people in Los Angeles County." (Similar citations: Apr. 3, 1989) Factual basis: None of these estimates makes clear who among those taking shelter in garages are in the country illegally. No comment so far from county offices. One City of Los Angeles representative said that the last tally was done over five years ago, and found 50,000 to 70,000 illegally converted units in the city of Los Angeles, out of about 800,000 residences. "Fact" 7: The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. LAT citations: May 15, 2005, in an op-ed by attorney Carol Platt Liebau — "Of the membership of the notorious 18th Street gang, estimated at 20,000, fully 60% are illegal aliens, according to a 1995 report by the state Department of Justice." (Similar citations: Jan. 19, 2004, March 25, 2000, June 11, 1997, Dec. 17, 1996, Nov. 21, 1996, Nov. 17, 1996) Factual basis: Heather MacDonald of Manhattan Institute stated that "No one knows for certain the percentage of illegals in gangs, thanks in large part to sanctuary laws themselves." She does offer some statistics in the City Journal: A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. [...] The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Even if you accept the 18th Street Gang estimates, which would be notoriously difficult to determine with accuracy, that's just one gang in a city where several prominent gangs — including the Crips, Bloods and Aryan Nation — are not largely comprised of immigrants, at least not from "south of the border." "Fact" 8: Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. LAT citations: None. Factual basis: No comment yet from HUD, and the only statistic we found online is at FAIR, and it is for only the state of California: The state Housing and Community Development department has prepared new screening rules based on the welfare reform legislation adopted by Congress in 1996 that would ban illegal aliens from public housing programs. The HCD estimates that as many as 5 percent of 25,000 housing units could be affected. http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2007/04/may_day_mythbus.html
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:16 PM
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Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:24 PM
MAL4PREZ
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:35 PM
REDREAD
The poster formerly known as yinyang.
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:36 PM
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by REDREAD: (ETA: Aww, ninja'd! I need to learn how to work quicker. When I started composing this, only Anthony had posted.)
Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Yes, Mal. ETA: And Red! By not setting the floor at 'zero' the chart makers were able to create a huge visual impact that is misleading in its proportion. I thought it was some very creative chartmaking.
Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:15 PM
Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Admittedly, the word 'creative' may be my own creative substitution for another word or words.
Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Because Republicans love Texas and hate anything having to do with California, of course. Surprised you needed to ask... ;o) Thanx for the charts, by the way...nice to see something that makes SENSE.
Friday, July 20, 2012 3:29 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: According to this chart, it looks like we've leveled off as the economy begins to recover, and the trend is heading downward.
Friday, July 20, 2012 5:26 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, July 20, 2012 9:22 AM
Quote:All in all, looks pretty much like your chart is confirming the chart Anthony received.
Friday, July 20, 2012 10:23 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Why does California get such a bad rap for its budget woes, but Texas usually gets held up as some kind of Utopia? Texas has budget woes nearly as bad as California's, with a much smaller economy to try to sort them out. "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
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