REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

One issue where the GOP is actually moving to the LEFT

POSTED BY: KPO
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 13:23
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 993
PAGE 1 of 1

Monday, September 3, 2012 2:52 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Crime, and prisoner rehabilitation, looking at their platform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/31/the-gop-p
latforms-surprisingly-progressive-stance-on-crime
/

Quote:

Four years ago, Republicans devoted a section in their platform to the War on Drugs, lamenting the “human toll of drug addiction and abuse” and vowing to “continue the fight against producers, traffickers, and distributor of illegal substances.”

That plank is conspicuously missing from the GOP platform this year. The fight against illegal drugs is only mentioned in passing, mostly with reference to drug cartels and the ban on using controlled substances for doctor-assisted suicide.

Policy experts agree that the omission is significant. “This is less a ‘tough on crime’ document than you would have expected. And leaving out the War on Drugs [is] quite astounding,” says Mark Kleiman, a crime policy expert and professor at UCLA. “It’s a bit more of a libertarian attitude,” says Marc Levin, who runs a conservative criminal justice reform project called “Right on Crime” that’s attracted the support of Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist.

What’s more, the 2012 platform includes new provisions that emphasize the importance of rehabilitation and re-entry programs to help ex-prisoners integrate back into society—using language that Kleiman describes as “a lot less ‘lock ‘em up and throw away the key.’”

“While getting criminals off the street is essential, more attention must be paid to the process of restoring those individuals to the community,” the platform says. “Prisons should do more than punish; they should attempt to rehabilitate and institute proven prisoner reentry systems to reduce recidivism and future victimization.” The document also criticizes the “overcriminalization of behavior,” though it doesn’t elaborate on the point much further.

Both Kleiman and Levin believe it’s partly the outgrowth of a prison-reform push on the part of GOP governors whose state budgets have been saddled with high incarceration expenses. In recent months, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, and Gov. Chris Christie have embraced crime reform legislation to support the kind of rehabilitation programs that the GOP platform now advocates, with some also reducing jail time for non-violent offenders. Conservative reformers like Levin are heartened by the changes. “We’ve gone a long way in four years,” he says, crediting the growing interest in more cost-effective ways to tackle crime.

To be sure, there are still some aggressively “law-and-order” provisions in the platform, some of which go farther than the 2008 version. The previous platform called for mandatory sentences for “gang conspiracy crimes, violent or sexual offenses against children, rape, and assaults resulting in serious bodily injury.” This year, the provision has been expanded to include all “gang crimes, repeat drug dealers, robbery, and murder.”

But overall, the platform reveals a notable policy shift for the GOP, although it’s hasn’t been one that either side has mentioned much in this year’s election.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, September 3, 2012 3:06 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


An aggressive War On Drugs might infringe on the privilege of the rich and powerful to indulge in anything THEY choose, not just the choice of the the peons to medicate their troubles illegally. The Repubs just figured that out.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, September 3, 2012 5:53 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Of course they are, since if they continue to fumble the ball and all their misdeeds come out when they no longer have the political might to insulate themselves from consequences what you think is gonna happen to em ?
This ain't benevolence, it's ass-covering.

Amazing how fast Conservatives turn Liberal when they're facing actual consequences, isn't it ?

-F

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, September 3, 2012 7:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Of course they are, since if they continue to fumble the ball and all their misdeeds come out when they no longer have the political might to insulate themselves from consequences what you think is gonna happen to em ?
This ain't benevolence, it's ass-covering.

Amazing how fast Conservatives turn Liberal when they're facing actual consequences, isn't it ?

-F




Just ask Rush Limbaugh!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, September 3, 2012 7:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes, rappy's fallen idol: A bloated gasbag who was deafened and addled from hillbilly heroin.

Too funny!

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, September 3, 2012 9:03 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, rappy's fallen idol: A bloated gasbag who was deafened and addled from hillbilly heroin.

Too funny!



Ya know the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg?

One of them is a bloated Nazi gasbag, the other is a blimp. Ba-Dump-Bum-Bum!
"Thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal."

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:23 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hee, hee, hee, 'nother good one, NewOld! However, did it ever occur to anyone that they are working hard to PRIVATIZE prisons, and are doing a great job stocking them with illegal aliens? AND that the "rehab" they're talking about has virtually all been privatized as well? Bottom line, folks, bottom line: profit.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Elections; 2024
Wed, November 6, 2024 00:51 - 4548 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Tue, November 5, 2024 23:43 - 4679 posts
With apologies to JSF: Favorite songs (3)
Tue, November 5, 2024 23:39 - 69 posts
Election fraud.
Tue, November 5, 2024 17:19 - 39 posts
Multiculturalism
Tue, November 5, 2024 17:16 - 53 posts
Funny Cartoon sparks Islamic Jihad !
Tue, November 5, 2024 17:12 - 248 posts
Elon Musk
Tue, November 5, 2024 16:57 - 32 posts
Electoral College, ReSteal 2024 Edition
Tue, November 5, 2024 16:55 - 40 posts
What kind of superpower could China be?
Tue, November 5, 2024 16:02 - 54 posts
End of the Democratic Party (not kidding)
Tue, November 5, 2024 14:18 - 56 posts
Disgruntled Tepublicans vow to move to Australia
Tue, November 5, 2024 13:53 - 76 posts
Kamala Harris for President
Tue, November 5, 2024 13:47 - 639 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL