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Let's fast and pray for Mittens
Friday, September 28, 2012 12:11 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:A Utah woman unwittingly started a grassroots campaign when an e-mail she sent to her five children and a handful of friends urging a day of prayer and fasting for Mitt Romney started making the Mormon rounds. Mona Williams, a Price, Utah, member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, wrote last Sunday evening to tell people closest to her how frustrated she is with the state of the country. “A lot of my frustration is because I feel I don’t know what to do to really make a change. Well, this time I do,” she wrote. “I am asking you to join me and my family on Sunday Sept. 30 by fasting and praying for Mitt Romney. That he will be blessed in the debates,” the first of which is next Wednesday. “I know that seems like such a small thing, but I believe ‘from small things, great things can come about,’” she continued. “I know that fasting and praying brings about miracles.” The message that was intended for a group of about 10 people has since cropped up in Mormon inboxes around the country, including in Colorado, California and Nevada, BuzzFeed reported. “I’m simply a woman with faith,” she told CNN. “I am just a woman who believes that God loves this country and his hand is in whatever happens.” The Student Review, a student-run paper at LDS Church-owned Brigham Young University posted Williams' message – or at least a version of her message that was forwarded - online, and the responses reveal a community rich with a variety of perspectives. “I cannot tell you how scared I am for the future of our country,” wrote an unnamed student who is heading toward graduation. “What I do know is that Mitt Romney is a worthy priesthood-holding leader who has the potential to do a lot of good for our country. I know the Lord takes worthy men and makes them qualified for miraculous experiences.” While another student answered that Romney’s name should be added to the “Temple Prayer List,” others fired back, calling such rhetoric “completely ridiculous” and “embarrassing.” “You assume that if we fast then God will bless Mitt Romney to win,” wrote Ryan. “Who are you to say that it’s God’s will that Mitt Romney wins? I’ve been an active member my entire life and I can’t support Mitt Romney with a good conscience. Just because he is a member of our church does not mean all of his policies are correct or even moral.” Added Jay: “The Lord DOES care about who leads our country, He just doesn’t care what party they are from. Only we look at party, whereas the Lord looks on the heart.” It's precisely with her heart that Williams will fast and pray this Sunday, because that, she said, is what she can do. "Whatever happens in this country," she says, "at least I've done my part." http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/28/personal-email-urging-mormons-to-fast-and-pray-for-romney-goes-national/?hpt=hp_bn3] ...there just are no words... (GO, young Ryan)
Friday, September 28, 2012 1:36 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Friday, September 28, 2012 2:11 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:03 AM
Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:41 AM
BYTEMITE
Saturday, September 29, 2012 8:12 AM
Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Around here, they think that Mitt's election would fulfill a prophecy from Joseph Smith, that a mormon would someday become president, and that it would signify both the transformation/redemption of America into a divine state, fixing the constitution, and that it would usher in the END DAYS. This includes members of my own family. *face palm* I am not even shitting you guys. it's called the White Horse Prophecy. The white horse is a symbol of salvation, Jesus is supposed to ride on one in the final confrontation and it's also one of the horsemen of the apocalypse.
Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:51 AM
HKCAVALIER
Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So there are people people who believe Mitt Romney signifies the end of the world? And they're still voting for him? I wish I could even say I was surprised by that...
Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:30 PM
Quote: They do realize that to the other Christians, the rider of the white horse is the Antichrist, right?
Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:16 PM
OONJERAH
Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by HKCavalier: It's like dueling theologies.
Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Quote: They do realize that to the other Christians, the rider of the white horse is the Antichrist, right? Depends on when the horse is showing up. Before/during the tribulations it's the antichrist, but at the last battlefield thing 1,000 years afterward, it's Jesus, who then lets out this yell that kills all the armies of evil or whatever. But yeah, unfortunate implications abound, they really haven't thought this one through. ._. Joesph Smith was kind of a con artist who tossed together a bible fanfic chop suey to create his own canon and pick up a lot of chicks. He wasn't really thinking about what was already existing actual religious symbolism when he came up with this stuff, he just went with whatever sounded esoteric and cool.
Quote:"My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt . . ." (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 1, p. 5-6).
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