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Friday, October 26, 2012 12:53 PM

AURAPTOR

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" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 26, 2012 1:00 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


That is a very ugly person who moves really weird. I don't know what he's saying as I couldn't watch him for more than a few seconds, the way he wriggles around. I assume it's something anti-Obama, anti-Liberal, anti-Democrat or somesuch, but all it does is make me sad to think of you.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Friday, October 26, 2012 1:02 PM

AURAPTOR

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I wasn't aware of your homophobia, Niki.

I'll keep that in mind from now on.

Oh, and I just saw this. Made me think of you , for some reason.

Gay candidates seek seats in GA General Assembly

( Really, that's the headline ! )

http://www.thegavoice.com/news/georgia-news/5376-gay-candidates-seek-s
eats-in-ga-general-assembly



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 26, 2012 1:35 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I wasn't aware of your homophobia, Niki.




Wow, a straw-man attack based on nothing Niki said - AND proof that you don't even grasp the video you posted. Efficient.

While I have no idea what the orientation of that man is - he isn't being fey because he's gay - he's impersonating a specific woman - writer/director Lena Dunham. You'd think you may have picked that up from the title of the video.

Dumbass.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

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Friday, October 26, 2012 1:56 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


What is he talking about, Mark? I can't figure out what he means by that...but then, I'm not willing to put any more time or energy INTO figuring it out; I'm just going to assume it's a slur and move on. Mostly I find Rap to be very, very sad, and I'm glad I don't understand how he thinks.

Whoever that guy is, he must have a LOT to say--the one thing I noticed when I tried to watch the video (brrrr...he made me shudder so much I couldn't pay much attention to what he was saying) was that the ENTIRE side of the YouTube page was videos by him, apparently on many different subjects. Guy must think he's awfully important and that we should care a lot about what he has to say or something...

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Friday, October 26, 2012 2:04 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Okay, I got curious. I clicked on a couple of that guy's other videos--he moves funny in the ones I saw, too, just wiggles around a lot, gesticulates a lot, and talks a lot and fast...and it looks like has some very manly-man opinions on a LOT of shit. Did Rap think I thought he was gay or something? Weeeiirrd. I just think he's full of ego...and shit.

I guess, if I gave a shit, my question would be exactly what point Rap was trying to MAKE with this video... If I gave a shit. Bye now.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Friday, October 26, 2012 3:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Storybook - did you miss the word ' parody ' in the title ?

I think you did.

dumbass.

@Niki - Lemmie catch ya up to speed, ma'am.

Lena Dunham, " actress " of the HBO series GIRLS, did an OFFICIAL web ad for Obama.

Watch here :




The OP was a - wait for it... PARODY of said ad. So those gesticulations you observed, were clearly OVER acted, to add to the comedic effect. And yes, he's clearly attempting to both mock the ad ( note similar shirt, tattoo, hair style, necklace ) , while displaying stereotypical 'gay' flamboyance. Was it acting ? Was he playing himself ? Dunno. Don't really care.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 26, 2012 3:49 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Uhhhh, basically speaking: SO WHAT?!? Why should I care? What was your "point" in putting it up?

No, wait, don't bother. I'm sorry, Rap, but I'm just not interested, you see.

You're welcome to keep digging around the internet to try and find something dramatic with which to diss the left/Obama/Democrats/whatever, but you kinda flubbed on this one. It's just not interesting to most people, as you can see by the responses it's gotten.

Basically: Sorry I asked.

, too.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Friday, October 26, 2012 4:00 PM

AURAPTOR

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Niki

Sorry if your humor quota was done for the day. Maybe try again later ?

Oh, and I guess, if there IS a point, t'was to show that one video is actually about as UN funny as the other. Hard to tell which was the 'straight', serious ad, and which was the parody.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:23 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - did you miss the word ' parody ' in the title ?

I think you did.



Riiiight.... I missed it.... so I mentioned it - pecifically.

Fuckin' moron....


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:53 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - did you miss the word ' parody ' in the title ?

I think you did.

dumbass.

@Niki - Lemmie catch ya up to speed, ma'am.

Lena Dunham, " actress " of the HBO series GIRLS, did an OFFICIAL web ad for Obama.

Watch here :




The OP was a - wait for it... PARODY of said ad. So those gesticulations you observed, were clearly OVER acted, to add to the comedic effect. And yes, he's clearly attempting to both mock the ad ( note similar shirt, tattoo, hair style, necklace ) , while displaying stereotypical 'gay' flamboyance. Was it acting ? Was he playing himself ? Dunno. Don't really care.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "





So in your opinion, is everyone who is "flamboyant" therefore gay?

You never made clear where you get "homophobia" from Niki's responses.

Do you think the guy's gay because he's imitating Lena Dunham? Why? Is she gay?

More to the point, should I care?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - did you miss the word ' parody ' in the title ?

I think you did.



Riiiight.... I missed it.... so I mentioned it - pecifically.

Fuckin' moron....



Naw... It's clear to me and everyone... you missed it.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:51 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
[Naw... It's clear to me and everyone... you missed it.



Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Wow, a straw-man attack based on nothing Niki said - AND proof that you don't even grasp the video you posted. Efficient.

While I have no idea what the orientation of that man is - he isn't being fey because he's gay - he's impersonating a specific woman - writer/director Lena Dunham. You'd think you may have picked that up from the title of the video.

Dumbass.



Not clear to me, anyone with a brain, or to reality.

Sorry Rappy try harder...asshole.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:54 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

So in your opinion, is everyone who is "flamboyant" therefore gay?



Strawman, not worth my time.

Quote:


You never made clear where you get "homophobia" from Niki's responses.




That is a very ugly person who moves really weird. I don't know what he's saying as I couldn't watch him for more than a few seconds, the way he wriggles around.


Quote:


Do you think the guy's gay because he's imitating Lena Dunham? Why? Is she gay?



Well, he's acting gay, for one thing. Flamboyantly so. And she's a girl, he's a guy...it's self evident, really. If you watch the video, he speaks of getting an abortion ( hopefully - one day ! )

You're not too bright, are ya?

Snort - but we all knew that.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:55 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - did you miss the word ' parody ' in the title ?

I think you did.



Riiiight.... I missed it.... so I mentioned it - pecifically.

Fuckin' moron....



Naw... It's clear to me and everyone... you missed it.




You don't speak for everyone.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You don't speak for everyone.




Only those who have a brain.

So, no. Not everyone. You're left out.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:00 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


You would have to have a brain to speak for those that do.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

So in your opinion, is everyone who is "flamboyant" therefore gay?



Strawman, not worth my time.

Quote:


You never made clear where you get "homophobia" from Niki's responses.




That is a very ugly person who moves really weird. I don't know what he's saying as I couldn't watch him for more than a few seconds, the way he wriggles around.




So are you trying to say that every "ugly person who moves really weird" is gay?

You still haven't pointed out WHY you accused Niki of homophobia. Repeating her words doesn't clear things up, since she never made any reference at all to this person's sexuality.


Quote:


Quote:


Do you think the guy's gay because he's imitating Lena Dunham? Why? Is she gay?



Well, he's acting gay, for one thing. Flamboyantly so. And she's a girl, he's a guy...it's self evident, really. If you watch the video, he speaks of getting an abortion ( hopefully - one day ! )




So please, tell us all, because you're clearly an expert in this area judging by what you've said in this thread about others not being bright enough to get what you "and everyone" gets...

How do gay people act?

Are you saying that because he's doing his impersonation of Lena Dunham, he's obviously therefore gay? Do only women and gay men know about her, who she is, what she does? YOU knew all about her, right?

Or do you assume a man's gay because he talks about getting an abortion? If so, that really says more about you and your lack of understanding of how things work than it does about anyone here.







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
You would have to have a brain to speak for those that do.




Considare the possibilities.


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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You don't speak for everyone.




Only those who have a brain.

So, no. Not everyone. You're left out.




I must indeed be left out. After all, I'm not capable of divining a person's sexuality after seeing a single video of them imitating a woman.

Clearly you're the only one who can do that. Well, you and a few of your fundie friends, I'm sure.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:07 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Considare the possibilities.



That you have a brain...I have considered that. So far there is no evidence to that.

Of course that might be your hardship here. You ignore evidence.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
You would have to have a brain to speak for those that do.




Considare the possibilities.





Of you learning how to spell?


Slim to none.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Well, he's acting gay, for one thing. Flamboyantly so. And she's a girl, he's a guy...it's self evident, really. If you watch the video, he speaks of getting an abortion
Oh, my, apparently a man SATIRIZING a woman is gay...? I understand now. Or maybe only to a homophobe, since everyone else seems to have understood that the guy was pretending to be a woman? How can it be both?
Quote:

And Nickerson ? You're a fucking moron. Go fuck yourself.
For me personally, that is over the line. Even in response to "asshole". Just sayin'.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
You would have to have a brain to speak for those that do.




Considare the possibilities.





Of you learning how to spell?



Yeah, that was a jab at nickerson's spelling. Poke fun at him, not me.

And niki, so YOU'RE the arbiter now, and get to determine what crosses the line? That's a laugh. You're every bit as guilty as anyone here at being uncivil.

I all too often get down in the gutter too.

Pot, meet Kettle.




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Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:58 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Glad you did not say "pot calling the kettle black" because by your anti-logic that would be racist.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:25 AM

STORYMARK


Dumb motherfucker tries to accuse others of homophobia - and instead proves his own (while re-establishing how poor his reading skills are).

Gotta love it.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Doesn't "pot, meet kettle" refer to someone who calls others something they don't admit to being themselves? I freely admitted to having fallen into the same trap as others, does that mean I'm calling anyone something I'm not admitting to having been myself? Maybe I don't understand the phrase... ;o)

I would, however, hope I never fell so far as to call anyone a mutherfucker. The word "fuck" is interesting; people seem to have different feelings about it. For me, used as an expletive or in general terms, it doesn't bother me; used pointedly at another individual, it bothers me. That's just me.

As to being "arbiter", my, my, we seem angry today. Never said I was; have pointed out how things are here (did I lie?), have said I wish it were different (am I alone?), and have tried--and said I would try again--to be less inflammatory. I speak for myself, nobody else, and made that quite clear, I believe, with "For me personally". I believe I have as much right to my opinion as anyone else, or am I wrong?

Well, it's of little matter...I suppose it just surprises me a bit that Rap gets so upset by my opinions and pretty much WHATEVER I write (and apparently even what font color I write it in), however mild it might be, and even if (as in this case), I disagree with someone on the left. I'm not trying to "win" anything here or control anyone else, just conversing with others as best I can and offering my opinion.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:28 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Glad you did not say "pot calling the kettle black" because by your anti-logic that would be racist.




It's only racist when a conservative says it.

C'mon... try to keep up.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


MORE FREE STUFF!

HELL YES!

I already get oodles and oodles - off-shore accounts, low tax rates, write-offs up the wazoo, and some years I pay no tax at all!

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:20 AM

AURAPTOR

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Tax rates need to be lower for the producers, who already pay FAR more than their fair share.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


LESS TAXES THAN ZERO! ALLLlllll riiiiiight!

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:29 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
LESS TAXES THAN ZERO! ALLLlllll riiiiiight!



You're beyond delusional.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:38 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


LESS TAXES THAN ZERO AND MORE FREE STUFF!!


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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:46 AM

AURAPTOR

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Nice change of topic.

BTW , who was President in '08-'10, and which party controlled both House and Senate, during that time ?


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Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:50 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Vote ! For more free stuff.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Vote ! For more free stuff.

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Can't answer that one, can ya ?

Parrot wanna cracker ?




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Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:13 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Nice change of topic.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:26 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



That's it, 1kiki. When you have no legitimate point, just repeat yourself over and over, and TYPE LOUDER!!


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:28 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Tax rates need to be lower for the producers, who already pay FAR more than their fair share.



Okay, so lets raise the capital gains tax to compensate. Making money by investing does not produce anything.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Tax rates need to be lower for the producers, who already pay FAR more than their fair share.



Okay, so lets raise the capital gains tax to compensate. Making money by investing does not produce anything.



You're absolutely wrong. And you'd have the exact opposite result as you're trying to get. CUT cap gains taxes, cut corporate tax rates, bring more $ back to the shores of the US,instead of sending it over seas.

Cut tax rates, cut federal spending, grow the economy...


Why the hell am I saying this again ? You'll just ignore it... and carry on w/ the fairy tale that the top 1% don't pay enough.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:50 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Cut tax rates ...

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:03 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're absolutely wrong. And you'd have the exact opposite result as you're trying to get. CUT cap gains taxes, cut corporate tax rates, bring more $ back to the shores of the US,instead of sending it over seas.

Cut tax rates, cut federal spending, grow the economy...


Why the hell am I saying this again ? You'll just ignore it... and carry on w/ the fairy tale that the top 1% don't pay enough.



Two things you should realize. One cutting federal spending will take money out of the economy and cause it to shrink, not grow. Second, cutting capital gains will not bring more money here.

Oh and you have some truly wrapped reality if you think someone like Mitt paying a 14% income tax rate is fair.

...and it is only 14% because he did not take all his deductions, had he it would have been closer to 7%.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
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Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Tax rates need to be lower for the producers, who already pay FAR more than their fair share.




Where in the Constitution does it say that life is "fair"?

Why do you think "the producers" deserve special treatment, more rights than others?



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


If you want taxes to be more "fair", then you should be lobbying to get rid of capital gains tax breaks, making cap-gains rates the same as income tax rates, and you should be for eliminating the income cap on payroll taxes.


But you have no desire to have taxation be "fair"; for the rich, "fair" is when they pay a lower percentage in taxes than their secretaries do.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, November 27, 2021 7:14 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


This woman has been drugged up since she was a kid and now her body is broken.

Used to be named by magazines as the most influential people in the world, now she's a nobody.
She's been kind of a little drugged out of it since she was a child, eating some C15H8CH2N4O2NO2CLH2O4H maybe some complex Benzene ring type formula, maybe Clonazepam molecular compound drug thing? ...maybe to relieve her anxiety or some shit up until year 2018.
She had Covid symptoms for three weeks, happened maybe a year back and had an online meltdown because people were not into the social distancing thing.

She also gets involved in British politics and although she's Jewish and British Labour can at time be Anti-Jewish or Anti Israel, this Dunham endorsed Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party.

Lena Dunham is now to Adapt Syrian Refugee Story For Steven Spielberg, J.J. Abrams

https://www.moviefone.com/2018/10/29/lena-dunham-syrian-refugee-story-
spielberg-abrams
/

She's 30 but got some illness and has the broken body of a 70 yr old, walks around with a cane for additional walking support

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Saturday, November 27, 2021 10:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh, she's a gross one. Her dad's a treat too.

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