Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
After tomorrow's election, ALL of us will be dissappointed...
Monday, November 5, 2012 10:31 AM
CHRISISALL
Monday, November 5, 2012 10:44 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Monday, November 5, 2012 10:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Speak for yourself. There is a chance I could be quit happy.
Monday, November 5, 2012 10:59 AM
BYTEMITE
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:00 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: ...the question is will we be screwed badly or HORRIBLY? USA Inc. under CEO Romney would be the 'horribly' btw....
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:02 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Speak for yourself. There is a chance I could be quit happy. I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man. A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar. ...and now a Fundie! http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And Byte - the UN are nothing more than a bunch of petty 3rd world thugs and degenerates. Their view of us is meaningless. WE fund their little Hate-America party, and that needs to end.
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:12 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Republican State Leadership Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie says a $30 million effort to elect GOP party members at the state level will cause at least 10 legislative chambers to flip from Democrat to Republican in November – which could have a major impact on congressional redistricting." “That can have an impact on the US House composition for a decade because of the redistricting process,” Mr. Gillespie, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said at a Monitor-sponsored breakfast for reporters on Thursday. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2010/0729/GOP-targets-big-prize-in-state-elections-this-fall-redistricting] It worked, too:Quote:Most of the political world’s attention this year will be focused on the presidential race. But while the nation is watching President Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney duke it out, state legislatures will be forging their own battles -- all the more important because of the influence that state governments have had in recent years on hot-button issues ranging from voter identification to hydrofracking regulations. This year’s state legislative contests are being shaped by a one-two punch: a historic shift of 20-plus chambers in the GOP’s direction on Election Day 2010, followed by a once-every-decade process of redistricting. In a strategic sense, the GOP timed its big 2010 gains perfectly since line redrawing has allowed the party to protect them. But the big difference between 2010 and 2012 is the partisan split of these in-play chambers. At this point two years ago, it was plain to see that the GOP was poised for one-sided gains: 21 Democratic-held chambers were in play in our first rating, compared to just four Republican-held chambers. This meant that the Republicans could go on offense all across the nation without having to worry about playing much defense. That partisan imbalance was historically unusual: In the previous four election cycles we handicapped, the typical ratio of vulnerable chambers between the parties was close to even. And this year, it is again. This year, 12 Republican-held chambers are in play, compared to 10 Democratic-held chambers and two tied chambers. In the absence of a strong partisan wave, this would suggest a possible net shift of between zero and two seats in either party’s direction on Election Day. An outcome in that range would solidify -- or at most, roll back slightly -- the GOP’s gains from 2010. How big were those gains from 2010? Very big. The GOP now controls 59 legislative chambers, the Democrats control 37 and two are tied. Nebraska has a unicameral, nonpartisan legislature. (A full breakdown of current margins in each of the state legislatures is provided courtesy of the National Conference of State Legislatures.) If our ratings prove accurate, then even if the Democrats manage to seize a few chambers away from the Republicans in 2012, they will still find themselves far behind the GOP in overall control of chambers on Election Night, and quite possibly for more election cycles beyond that. http://www.governing.com/blogs/politics/gov-state-legislature-ratings.html] Dems need to smarten up and realize how important (in some ways MORE important) state offices are to the running of our country than merely the Presidency. The power of the states for both the GOP and anti-choice groups was evident by April of this year:Quote:...when legislators in 24 states, many elected in the 2010 Republican tide, passed a record 92 laws restricting abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a group that conducts sexual and reproductive health research, policy analysis and public education. The abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America is tracking 235 bills in legislatures that it says would restrict abortion. The group says a dozen have passed so far this year. Abortion opponents say they feel emboldened. "Ohioans are fed up with regulating abortion. They want to end it," says Patrick Johnston, a family physician from Zanesville who is leading a petition drive to get a "personhood" amendment on November's state ballot. "We have seen more anti-abortion legislation in this General Assembly than any time that I can remember," said Sandy Theis, spokeswoman for Healthy Families Ohio, a coalition that opposes the proposed "personhood" amendment. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-04-25/states-anti-abortion-legislation/54538866/1 We need to get our shit together and focus on more than just the Presidency and Congress if we're to protect our civil rights, dammit! Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.
Quote:Most of the political world’s attention this year will be focused on the presidential race. But while the nation is watching President Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney duke it out, state legislatures will be forging their own battles -- all the more important because of the influence that state governments have had in recent years on hot-button issues ranging from voter identification to hydrofracking regulations. This year’s state legislative contests are being shaped by a one-two punch: a historic shift of 20-plus chambers in the GOP’s direction on Election Day 2010, followed by a once-every-decade process of redistricting. In a strategic sense, the GOP timed its big 2010 gains perfectly since line redrawing has allowed the party to protect them. But the big difference between 2010 and 2012 is the partisan split of these in-play chambers. At this point two years ago, it was plain to see that the GOP was poised for one-sided gains: 21 Democratic-held chambers were in play in our first rating, compared to just four Republican-held chambers. This meant that the Republicans could go on offense all across the nation without having to worry about playing much defense. That partisan imbalance was historically unusual: In the previous four election cycles we handicapped, the typical ratio of vulnerable chambers between the parties was close to even. And this year, it is again. This year, 12 Republican-held chambers are in play, compared to 10 Democratic-held chambers and two tied chambers. In the absence of a strong partisan wave, this would suggest a possible net shift of between zero and two seats in either party’s direction on Election Day. An outcome in that range would solidify -- or at most, roll back slightly -- the GOP’s gains from 2010. How big were those gains from 2010? Very big. The GOP now controls 59 legislative chambers, the Democrats control 37 and two are tied. Nebraska has a unicameral, nonpartisan legislature. (A full breakdown of current margins in each of the state legislatures is provided courtesy of the National Conference of State Legislatures.) If our ratings prove accurate, then even if the Democrats manage to seize a few chambers away from the Republicans in 2012, they will still find themselves far behind the GOP in overall control of chambers on Election Night, and quite possibly for more election cycles beyond that. http://www.governing.com/blogs/politics/gov-state-legislature-ratings.html] Dems need to smarten up and realize how important (in some ways MORE important) state offices are to the running of our country than merely the Presidency. The power of the states for both the GOP and anti-choice groups was evident by April of this year:Quote:...when legislators in 24 states, many elected in the 2010 Republican tide, passed a record 92 laws restricting abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a group that conducts sexual and reproductive health research, policy analysis and public education. The abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America is tracking 235 bills in legislatures that it says would restrict abortion. The group says a dozen have passed so far this year. Abortion opponents say they feel emboldened. "Ohioans are fed up with regulating abortion. They want to end it," says Patrick Johnston, a family physician from Zanesville who is leading a petition drive to get a "personhood" amendment on November's state ballot. "We have seen more anti-abortion legislation in this General Assembly than any time that I can remember," said Sandy Theis, spokeswoman for Healthy Families Ohio, a coalition that opposes the proposed "personhood" amendment. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-04-25/states-anti-abortion-legislation/54538866/1 We need to get our shit together and focus on more than just the Presidency and Congress if we're to protect our civil rights, dammit! Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.
Quote:...when legislators in 24 states, many elected in the 2010 Republican tide, passed a record 92 laws restricting abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a group that conducts sexual and reproductive health research, policy analysis and public education. The abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America is tracking 235 bills in legislatures that it says would restrict abortion. The group says a dozen have passed so far this year. Abortion opponents say they feel emboldened. "Ohioans are fed up with regulating abortion. They want to end it," says Patrick Johnston, a family physician from Zanesville who is leading a petition drive to get a "personhood" amendment on November's state ballot. "We have seen more anti-abortion legislation in this General Assembly than any time that I can remember," said Sandy Theis, spokeswoman for Healthy Families Ohio, a coalition that opposes the proposed "personhood" amendment. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-04-25/states-anti-abortion-legislation/54538866/1
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:16 AM
Quote:I'm hoping the term scandalous will be used, and nations of the UN will convene to speculate on what is wrong with our shit.
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:26 AM
Quote:I'm truly saddened that you take such joy in the thought of losing your freedom like this. Yeah, democracy is a lousey way to run a country, but that you would imagine that kind of corruption as BETTER blows my mind.
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:28 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Monday, November 5, 2012 11:34 AM
Quote: I find that a horrendous situation.
Monday, November 5, 2012 12:13 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, November 5, 2012 12:14 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: ...the question is will we be screwed badly or HORRIBLY?
Monday, November 5, 2012 12:22 PM
Quote:...the question is will we be screwed badly or HORRIBLY ? The answer is yes.
Monday, November 5, 2012 12:27 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Monday, November 5, 2012 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: USA Inc. under CEO Romney would be the 'horribly' btw....
Monday, November 5, 2012 1:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Especially when the Mormon Youth Brigade kicks in your front door and confiscates all your ship models and unholy sci fi memorabilia.
Monday, November 5, 2012 2:24 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, November 5, 2012 2:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Especially when the Mormon Youth Brigade kicks in your front door and confiscates all your ship models and unholy sci fi memorabilia. They will have to pry my phaser out of my cold dead hand...
Monday, November 5, 2012 3:09 PM
HERO
Monday, November 5, 2012 3:31 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, November 5, 2012 4:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: [ And when you say the United Nations "are nothing more than a bunch of petty 3rd world thugs and degenerates", you do realize that the U.S. sits on the U.N. Security Council, right?
Monday, November 5, 2012 6:59 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, November 5, 2012 8:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And Byte - the UN are nothing more than a bunch of petty 3rd world thugs and degenerates. Their view of us is meaningless. WE fund their little Hate-America party, and that needs to end. Look into U.S. funding of the U.N., or rather the lack of same. And when you say the United Nations "are nothing more than a bunch of petty 3rd world thugs and degenerates", you do realize that the U.S. sits on the U.N. Security Council, right? That makes us one of the prime "3rd world thugs and degenerates", in your book. "
Monday, November 5, 2012 9:10 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Monday, November 5, 2012 9:40 PM
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 1:27 AM
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 4:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: You wanna lay some money on that, neh ?
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 5:48 AM
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:09 AM
CAVETROLL
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: You wanna lay some money on that, neh ? We've all got money riding on this election and we've all bet on Romney, even if you're planning to vote Obama.
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: You wanna lay some money on that, neh ? We've all got money riding on this election and we've all bet on Romney, even if you're planning to vote Obama. All of the workers on this board have money on this election. The question of the outcome is; Will the winner take ALL of my money or just SOME of my money? But I think the experiment in democracy has just about run its course. The masses have figured out that they can vote themselves riches from the public coffers. Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: You wanna lay some money on that, neh ? We've all got money riding on this election and we've all bet on Romney, even if you're planning to vote Obama. All of the workers on this board have money on this election. The question of the outcome is; Will the winner take ALL of my money or just SOME of my money? But I think the experiment in democracy has just about run its course. The masses have figured out that they can vote themselves riches from the public coffers.
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 1:01 PM
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 6:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: We've all got money riding on this election and we've all bet on Romney, even if you're planning to vote Obama.
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 7:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Onion Bagel, Cream Cheese, eh ?
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 7:25 PM
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 7:47 PM
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: That makes us one of the prime "3rd world thugs and degenerates", in your book.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 4:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You're not too bright, so that finer point may have flew right over your head. But to your credit, Obama will look to lower the US to their level. So ya go that going for ya, at least.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:15 AM
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 6:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Dow drops 200 on day 1 after election. *edit - 249 now. *edit - 309 now. Dips below 13,000. Too late for HOPE, y'all.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:43 AM
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Dow drops 200 on day 1 after election. *edit - 249 now. *edit - 309 now. Dips below 13,000.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CHRISISALL: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Dow drops 200 on day 1 after election. *edit - 249 now. *edit - 309 now. Dips below 13,000. Totally expected. The money boys were sure Romney was gonna make it all better to play by severely fewer financial rules, but uh, WRONG.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: example ? Coal futures are down because, as Obama said, he'd bankrupt the industry. ( Bankrupt coal fired power plants, specifically, I recall )
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:09 AM
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's sad that you may actually believe that nonsense.
Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CHRISISALL: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: It's sad that you may actually believe that nonsense. There's a wall between you & the truth. Mr. AURaptor, tear that wall down!
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL