Explain to me why we're giving them billions of our $ again? by AURaptor

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Explain to me why we're giving them billions of our $ again?

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
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Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:46 AM

America loves a winner!

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04:38 AM ET
Egyptian court orders death sentences over anti-Islam film
By Mohamed Fadel Fahmy, for CNN

Cairo (CNN) - Seven Coptic Egyptians living abroad were sentenced to death Wednesday by a court in Cairo for their connection to an inflammatory anti-Islam film, the prosecutor's office said.

The suspects are accused of being involved with the production of the film in California, said Adel Al Saeed, official spokesman for the prosecutor's office.

Since the Egyptian citizens were tried in absentia, the sentence would be applied only if they returned to Egypt.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/29/egyptian-court-orders-death-s
entences-over-anti-islam-film/

Oh, and maybe ya missed it, but the Egyptian court didn't just sentence Americans who were connected w/ this silly video, but they ALSO sentenced an American who has no ties to Egypt, the video, at all.

Egyptian Court Sentences Florida Pastor Terry Jones to Death

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/19457

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:57 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

We have a habit of funding oppressive governments that may be useful to us for some purpose.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:08 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

Is he stuck there or can he escape okay. It sounds like those Coptics aren't there right now so as long as they stay away it will be okay, not that that makes whacky death sentences willy nilly okay, but at least they're not in imminent danger.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:13 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

First on US aid to Egypt...

http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/f.a.q.-on-u.s.-aid-to-egypt-where-
does-the-money-go-who-decides-how-spent

Now the funny thing about democracy is that it does not guarantee freedoms, or sanity.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:21 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Is he stuck there or can he escape okay. It sounds like those Coptics aren't there right now so as long as they stay away it will be okay, not that that makes whacky death sentences willy nilly okay, but at least they're not in imminent danger.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

All are living either in the US ( one being in jail ) or Canada. As for the Coptics...

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" The other seven all hold Egyptian nationality though mostly reside in the U.S."

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/337922#ixzz2Dezz8i15

One, Terry Jones, has no ties to Egypt, and is a full US citizen.

This is how backwards and absurd Muslims are.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Egypt should've just put 'em all on their kill list and used drone strikes to take 'em out. It's the American Way™.

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:31 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

One, Terry Jones, has no ties to Egypt, and is a full US citizen.

This is how backwards and absurd Muslims are.

Americans are as backwards and absurd, too. Just ask the al-Awlaki family. Oh, wait - you can't, them being dead and all. And full US citizens, too.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:35 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

This is how backwards and absurd Muslims are.

All Muslims? Every single on of them. There are no forward thinking, rational, sane Muslims.

Strange, I know at least one.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-prov
es-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8.html

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:18 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

I voted for the only candidate who would have cut off all foerign welfare aid.

What's your excuse?

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Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:19 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

It was a really bad movie, so the death penalty was appropriate.

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Friday, November 30, 2012 3:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Good to see Kwickie comparing freedom of speech, of those living in the US to the committing and planning of acts of terror, against innocent people.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, November 30, 2012 5:35 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

It's really quite shameful that Mike would make such an odd comparison.

Some people don't seem to understand that violations of human rights and due process are acceptable in certain scenarios.

Fortunately, Mr. Raptor knows when to strip Americans of their rights, thus safeguarding the rights of all Americans.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Friday, November 30, 2012 6:09 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Good to see Kwickie comparing freedom of speech, of those living in the US to the committing and planning of acts of terror, against innocent people.

You seem to be confused. I'm comparing freedom of speech of those living in the US to freedom of speech of those living outside of the US. In both cases, those who were practicing their "free speech" (so called) were American citizens.

Do you have evidence that the 16 year-old son of Anwar al-Awlacki was planning and committing acts of terror when he was targeted by a U.S. drone in a raid that had nothing to do with his father? Was he charged with any crime?

Or was he simply the right age and male in the wrong place, thereby rendering him (in our eyes) "an enemy combatant"?

If every male of an approximate military age in the entire Middle East can be classified by us as "enemy combatants", then it seems disingenuous of us to whinge when they say that people engaging in militant behavior here have similarly put themselves in the game.

Goose sauce = gander sauce. If you don't want people behaving barbarically by passing death sentences against people whose speech you don't like, then I'd suggest not passing death sentences against people whose speech you don't like. Otherwise, you just end up looking even more like a hypocrite than usual.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, November 30, 2012 7:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by ANTHONYT:

Fortunately, Mr. Raptor knows when to strip Americans of their rights, thus safeguarding the rights of all Americans.

Yeah, you've got exactly what evidence of that claim? Nice try

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:16 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Egypt should've just put 'em all on their kill list and used drone strikes to take 'em out. It's the American Way™.

Excellent point, which will go--well obviously HAS gone--right over Rap's head, predictably. As has the rest of what you said.

It of course never crossed his mind that, while a court in another country might sentence someone to death as a gesture, being unable or unwilling to DO anything about it, we

Ahh, Anthony, I love 'ya man, I love how you make your points, it always brings a smile to my face (and of course, also goes "ZING" right over Rap's head).

As to Terry Jones...no comment.

Once again, however, I maintain that anyone trying to communicate with Rap is pissing into the wind. Just a reminder.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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