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Ron Paul and States introduce bills to abolish Victim Disarmament Zones
Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:32 AM
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Quote:CNSNews.com Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has introduced a bill in the House that would allow teachers to carry firearms onto public school grounds. Gun-control groups call it an "extremist" bill. H.R. 2613, the Citizens Protection Act of 2011, would repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and remove all federally created criminal safety zones. The Gun-Free School Zones Act makes it “unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.” Paul’s office did not return calls or e-mails for comment to CNSNews.com, but the group Gun Owners of America said the Citizens Protection Act is needed for self-protection purposes. In a news release, the group argued that the Gun-Free School Zones Act protects criminals, asserting that such attacks as Columbine, Virginia Tech and Fort Hood “all occurred in government facilities where the private possession of firearms was prohibited.” “It’s time to say NO to criminal safe zones,” the release said. “And a great place to start is the blatantly unconstitutional Gun-free School Zones Act.” Gun control groups oppose Paul’s bill. The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) said the bill would threaten the safety of American families. “It’s a horrific piece of legislation that will present a direct threat to public safety,” CSGV Communications Director Ladd Everitt told CNSNews.com in an e-mail. “‘Gun-free zones,’ despite the gun lobby’s propaganda, are far and away the safest places in our country," said Everitt. He also said that the proposed bill represents the belief of “extremist groups” thwarting public support. “Rep. Paul’s legislation is the latest in a series of extreme pieces of legislation to come from the National Rifle Association,” he clarified in the e-mail. “Bills like this have no public support whatsoever and seek to elevate the interests of the gun industry and a tiny minority of gun owners over the wishes, well-being, and safety of American families in communities across the United States.” Paul’s bill would allow teachers and other individuals to carry guns onto high school and middle-school campuses. After the 2005 shootings at Columbine High School and Platte Canyon, two high schools in Colorado, some pro-gun groups said that repealing the School Zones Act would make schools safer. As CNSNews.com reported in 2008, after an armed man shot a 16-year old girl in Platte Canyon High School, a pro-gun group argued that it could have been prevented if other people could have carried firearms. Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, said at that time that all the law has done “is create target-rich, no-risk environments for monsters who have no fear of encountering an armed teacher or administrator, or a legally armed private citizen who might happen to be in the building.” The legislation has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee. http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/ron-paul-introduces-bill-abolish-gun-free-zones
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Quote:Tennessee considers training and arming schoolteachers to protect against shootings Tennessee has emerged this week as a center of the “the answer is more guns in schools” sentiment following the Newtown, Conn. elementary school shooting. A member of the Republican-controlled legislature plans during its upcoming session to introduce a bill that would allow the state to pay for secretly armed teachers in classrooms so, the sponsor told TPM, potential shooters don’t know who has a gun and who doesn’t. Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) has said the idea will be part of his discussions about how to prevent a shooting like the one in Newtown from happening in the Volunteer State. As has been seen following other mass shootings, there’s a strong segment of the gun rights lobby that says the answer to events like the one in Newtown is more guns in more places. But they’ve said the recent massacre shows how important it is to put guns into elementary schools, where even gun-friendly states like Tennessee don’t currently allow them. State Sen. Frank Niceley (R) told TPM on Tuesday he believes it’s time for that to change. He plans to introduce legislation in the next session, which begins Jan. 8, that will require all schools to have an armed staff member of some kind. The current language of the bill — which is in its early form — would allow for either a so-called “resource officer” (essentially an armed police officer, the kind which most Tennessee high schools have already) or an armed member of the faculty or staff in every school in the state. The choice would allow schools that can’t afford a resource officer to fulfill the requirement without having to pay for anything beyond the cost of the training and, presumably, the weapon. But Niceley said schools should use the wiggle room to train and keep on hand armed staff not in uniform. That’s the best way to protect students, he said. “Say some madman comes in. The first person he would probably try to take out was the resource officer. But if he doesn’t know which teacher has training, then he wouldn’t know which one had [a gun],” Niceley said by phone. “These guys are obviously cowards anyway and if someone starts shooting back, they’re going to take cover, maybe go ahead and commit suicide like most of them have.” Niceley described himself as a person who as grown up around guns his whole life and a strong supporter of gun owners’ rights. He tussled with the NRA during his last election over the letter grade he received from the group, though for the most part he’s been rated A+. Niceley’s proposal has gathered some high-level interest. Tennessee’s governor told reporters Monday that he’s open to including it on the agenda for a January conference to discuss school safety. Nicely said he expect the governor “to be receptive” to his plan to use tax money to arm and train teachers. Asked about concerns from gun control advocates that putting more guns in schools in the wake of Newtown might make them more dangerous, Niceley said the sentiment was naive. Not only does an unarmed school leave itself unprotected, he said, it also presents a tempting target. “Look at it this way, you never see one of these whacko shooters go to a gun show and start shooting. They don’t go down to the police station and start shooting,” he said. “They go to places we advertise are gun-free.” School resource officers are paid jointly by the local sheriff’s department and the school district. Niceley’s bill would allow schools to pay for background checks and firearms training for teachers that woud allow them to be armed as well. Asked if the guns for the trained teachers would also be part of the taxpayer expense, Niceley laughed. “Well, that’s a minor detail in Tennessee,” he said. “We hoped the teachers would have them already.” The teachers that would be trained would be volunteers, he said, and would likely carry their own firearms to school. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/tennessee-armed-teachers.php
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