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Republican Uses Noah’s Ark Myth To ‘Disprove’ Man Made Climate Change
Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:14 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) testified Wednesday during a congressional hearing on H.R. 3, a bill allowing Congress to approve the Keystone XL oil pipeline without President Obama’s approval, and had a pretty convincing argument as to why the pipeline could not possibly contribute to Climate Change:Quote:“I would point out that if you’re a believer in the Bible, one would have to say the Great Flood is an example of climate change and that certainly wasn’t because mankind had overdeveloped hydrocarbon energy,” Barton [said]. WAIT! WHA?! Let’s put aside for a moment that 97% of scientists agree that Climate Change is man-made and look at his theory that the Bible disproves the scientific community: Barton says that the Great Flood is an example of Climate Change, when in fact the Bible states that the earth was flooded to rid the earth of sin. Oh wait, this is coming from the same guy that told C-Span that CO2 is harmless because it’s in your Coca-Cola. I kid you not, he actually said that:Quote:I’m creating it as I talk to you. It’s in your Coca-Cola. your Dr. Pepper and your Perrier water. It’s necessary for human life. It’s odorless, colorless, tasteless, doesn’t cause cancer, doesn’t cause asthma. There’s nobody that’s ever been admitted to a hospital because of CO2 poisoning. So, when you actually look at his track record of spewing nonsense related to science, his new claim doesn’t seem that out of the ordinary, after all. As amusing as this is, we should be all a little concerned that this idiot helps guide and make United States policy. Sometimes I think,”we are SO screwed!!” http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/11/republican-uses-noahs-ark-myth-to-disprove-man-made-climate-change-video/
Quote:“I would point out that if you’re a believer in the Bible, one would have to say the Great Flood is an example of climate change and that certainly wasn’t because mankind had overdeveloped hydrocarbon energy,” Barton [said].
Quote:I’m creating it as I talk to you. It’s in your Coca-Cola. your Dr. Pepper and your Perrier water. It’s necessary for human life. It’s odorless, colorless, tasteless, doesn’t cause cancer, doesn’t cause asthma. There’s nobody that’s ever been admitted to a hospital because of CO2 poisoning.
Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:22 AM
Quote:The Montana Legislature is currently debating their SB 107, a bill didactically sub-titled “Generally revise deviate sexual conduct laws, which, in street vernacular, means the bill was put up to take down the criminalization of homosexuality. So we’re all for it. It’s a good bill. It will remove the insane and insensitive stigmatization and criminalization of one’s biological sexual orientation and the sexual acts that follow. Welcome to that aforementioned 21st century. But, of course, there are some in Montana (remember, this is a red state) who are not remotely on board with this proposed change. They see no need for it; in fact, they think the law is just fine. Which, in street vernacular, translates to “Gay Sex is Bad,” a variation on the more general theme of all sex is bad.Quote:During the debate over SB 107, which decriminalizes homosexuality, Representative [Dave] Hagstrom (R-Billings) asked Representative Bennett, who is openly gay and was the key force behind blasting SB 107 out of committee, “why do people have sex?” And then proceeded to explain that he would be voting against SB 107 using the all too famous homophobic logic that sole purpose of sex is to produce offspring. As the writer points out, Hagstrom only has four children; are we to assume – if sex is just for procreation – that he and his lovely wife Cindy have only had sex four times? If not, damn his wild, wanton, hypocritical ways! One must remember, if one doesn’t, that this is the same man who, as the landlord of an apartment building, sent one of his tenants, in a rather lengthy and passive-aggressive letter, a lecture mocking single mothers and hungry children; a letter which was one of others he wrote to tenants, claiming it was because “I love them.” He is also one of the three (Republican) members of the Montana House who voted against the “affordable housing for returning veterans” act. In other words, this is a guy whose soul seems to have gotten lost somewhere between religious rhetoric and party pontification. In looking at his photo, my guess is he and his wife are past their child-bearing years. Which, by his own logic, would mean they have no reason to have sex. Which would be a bummer for Cindy Hagstrom unless she shares her husband’s desire for post-menopausal celibacy. But I’m going to go out on a limb and say I’ll bet a big bunch of Montana greenbacks that it ain’t all sex Hagstrom’s afraid of; it’s other people’s sex, particularly if those other people are gay. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/10/gop-rep-declares-no-one-except-those-procreating-should-have-sex-especially-not-gays/
Quote:During the debate over SB 107, which decriminalizes homosexuality, Representative [Dave] Hagstrom (R-Billings) asked Representative Bennett, who is openly gay and was the key force behind blasting SB 107 out of committee, “why do people have sex?” And then proceeded to explain that he would be voting against SB 107 using the all too famous homophobic logic that sole purpose of sex is to produce offspring.
Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:24 AM
REAVERFAN
Friday, April 12, 2013 12:29 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: we could get rid of some of these complete idiots... Maybe I will...
Friday, April 12, 2013 2:14 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Friday, April 12, 2013 5:29 AM
Friday, April 12, 2013 5:30 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: At least he didn't suggest that Guam would flip over, from being over populated w/ US soldiers.
Friday, April 12, 2013 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: At least he didn't suggest that Guam would flip over, from being over populated w/ US soldiers. Its funny how you have to keep recycling that, years later - but some Republican says something staggeringly stupid on almost a daily basis. And you think the greater stupidity is from the left. Awww, how adorable.
Friday, April 12, 2013 1:55 PM
Friday, April 12, 2013 2:00 PM
Friday, April 12, 2013 2:05 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Friday, April 12, 2013 2:29 PM
Quote:It sounds so stupid it’s easy to doubt the truth of it, but a Republican politician has actually suggested, as a campaign slogan, bumper stickers that say, “If babies had guns, they wouldn’t be aborted.” Awe-inspiring, of course, through the staggering amount of idiocy. The most interesting part of the bumper sticker is the “Vote Pro-Life!” bit, because the suggestion that pregnant women seeking an abortion or the doctor doing the procedure should be shot doesn’t seem pro-life at all. It seems, in fact, murderously anti-abortion and anti-choice, but nothing more. Screen shot of Tweet at http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/12/insane-republican-says-if-babies-had-guns-they-wouldnt-be-aborted-image/] Or how about this guy, from yesterday?Quote:Michigan Republican National Committeeman Dave Agema continues to defend his decision to share an article warning parents about the "filthy lifestyle" of homosexuals, saying this week that Christians should help people "get out of it." Agema, who is in Los Angeles representing Michigan at the RNC's annual spring meeting, discussed the controversy Wednesday on Washington Watch, a radio show run by the Family Research Council. "What I'd like to have the homosexual community know is I don't hate them," he said. "As a matter of fact when Jesus caught a woman in the act of adultery when they brought her to him he said, 'I don't condemn you but go and sin no more.' That ought to be the church's goal here. We ought to be saying to these people, 'Hey, we don't agree with your lifestyle and we'll help you get out of it, but we want you to know the facts of what's going to happen to you if you stay in this lifestyle.'" The former state representative from West Michigan entered the national debate on gay marriage two weeks ago by sharing an article on Facebook titled "Everyone Should Know These Statistics on Homosexuality," which began with a warning to parents that their children could be "indoctrinated" at public schools. Agema repeated that claim on Wednesday, saying that school kids are already being conditioned to accept homosexuality and that "the next thing that will occur is your kids will come home and say, 'I think this is a good thing and I think I want to be one.'" The article also described various health problems associated with "the lifestyle," citing sources from 1978 to 1994, including a non-practicing chiropractor with ties to white supremacist and anti-Semitic groups. Agema has since updated the "traditional marriage" section of his personal website with links to additional sources, including the Family Research Council. "If you really love someone, if you really were concerned about someone, if you saw your friend for example dying of alcoholism would you just stand quietly by and watch it happen?" Agema said on the radio program. "Or would you speak up and say hey I want to help you. That's what we should be doing." http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/04/republican_dave_agema_compares.html
Quote:Michigan Republican National Committeeman Dave Agema continues to defend his decision to share an article warning parents about the "filthy lifestyle" of homosexuals, saying this week that Christians should help people "get out of it." Agema, who is in Los Angeles representing Michigan at the RNC's annual spring meeting, discussed the controversy Wednesday on Washington Watch, a radio show run by the Family Research Council. "What I'd like to have the homosexual community know is I don't hate them," he said. "As a matter of fact when Jesus caught a woman in the act of adultery when they brought her to him he said, 'I don't condemn you but go and sin no more.' That ought to be the church's goal here. We ought to be saying to these people, 'Hey, we don't agree with your lifestyle and we'll help you get out of it, but we want you to know the facts of what's going to happen to you if you stay in this lifestyle.'" The former state representative from West Michigan entered the national debate on gay marriage two weeks ago by sharing an article on Facebook titled "Everyone Should Know These Statistics on Homosexuality," which began with a warning to parents that their children could be "indoctrinated" at public schools. Agema repeated that claim on Wednesday, saying that school kids are already being conditioned to accept homosexuality and that "the next thing that will occur is your kids will come home and say, 'I think this is a good thing and I think I want to be one.'" The article also described various health problems associated with "the lifestyle," citing sources from 1978 to 1994, including a non-practicing chiropractor with ties to white supremacist and anti-Semitic groups. Agema has since updated the "traditional marriage" section of his personal website with links to additional sources, including the Family Research Council. "If you really love someone, if you really were concerned about someone, if you saw your friend for example dying of alcoholism would you just stand quietly by and watch it happen?" Agema said on the radio program. "Or would you speak up and say hey I want to help you. That's what we should be doing." http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/04/republican_dave_agema_compares.html
Friday, April 12, 2013 2:47 PM
Quote:MSNBC's Martin Bashir suggested that Republican senators need to have a member of their families killed for them to support the Democrats' gun proposals. (Let's start with Meghan McCain!) http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2013/04/11/liberals-go-crazy-for-the-mentally-ill-n1564243
Friday, April 12, 2013 2:54 PM
Quote:Republican Tennessee state Senator Stacey Campfield doesn’t know how to admit when he’s wrong, apparently, even when he’s being sued for it. After posting lies about a Democratic Party candidate that was running for the state House on his website and being slammed with a $750,000 libel lawsuit, Campfield continues to arrogantly assert that absolutely none of the blame for what he posted belongs to him. In 2008, Campfield stated on his blog that a Democrat running for a position in the state House, Roger Byrge, had a criminal record that included drug offenses for both possession and dealing. Unfortunately for Campfield, his information source, and his information, were both false, and although he didn’t even put forth the slightest effort to check the legitimacy of the allegations, he absolutely refuses to concede that in may have been slanderous to post information like that to his website. The source of the information, House Republican Caucus Chairman Glen Casada, along with the Tennessee Republican Party, were both sued as well, and settled the case out-of-court. The settlement remains undisclosed, so the dollar amount is not available for comparison to this lawsuit. To continue the trend of intellectual dishonesty, Campfield also said that he didn’t feel like it was his responsibility to check or corroborate his sources before posting the lies. The AP reports on his mind-blowing stupidity:Quote:Campfield was asked in the deposition whether he has “a right to disparage or demean, or to call someone a criminal when that statement’s not true.” Campfield answered: “I believe legally, probably, there is the right to do that because I’ve had it happen to me.” He was later challenged on whether there are limits to what he could publish. “You can do anything,” Campfield responded. “That’s freedom of speech. The newspaper reports on things that I do all the time.”
Quote:Campfield was asked in the deposition whether he has “a right to disparage or demean, or to call someone a criminal when that statement’s not true.” Campfield answered: “I believe legally, probably, there is the right to do that because I’ve had it happen to me.” He was later challenged on whether there are limits to what he could publish. “You can do anything,” Campfield responded. “That’s freedom of speech. The newspaper reports on things that I do all the time.”
Friday, April 12, 2013 3:04 PM
Quote:Ever-so-thoughtful evangelical radio host Bryan Fischer took to his airwaves on Thursday to warn his audience that “homofascists” are going to make anti-LGBT Christians wear badges just like the Jews were forced to do during the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. While discussing the news of several “canceled” conservative speeches — including that of Dr. Ben Carson, who gave up his speaking slot at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine’s commencement due to backlash from his likening homosexuality to bestiality and pedophile during an appearance on Fox News — AFA radio’s Fischer explained that this signals a downward spiral for anti-LGBT religious folk. “We’re getting to the point where these homofascists are going to force us to wear on our sleeves some kind of identifying marker so people will know who the racists and the homophobes and the bigots are, and can stay away from them,” he predicted. “If you don’t believe in sodomy-based marriage, if you’re not prepared to endorse and sanction sodomy-based marriage, then you have no place in this institution,” his dystopian prediction continued. “Remember when the Jews in Nazi Germany, they had to wear a yellow Star of David on their sleeve? I mean, we’re getting to the point now, that’s what they’re going to make us do.” Fischer was referring to the Nazi regime’s system of branding for its concentration camp prisoners: Jews were made to wear yellow Star of David patches; homosexuals wore pink triangles; “asocial elements” like alcoholics and prostitutes wore black triangles; political prisoners wore red triangles, etc. Fischer gave serious thought to what Christians would be “forced” to wear under an impending “homofascist” regime, but came up empty-handed: “I don’t know what the symbol would be, I’d have to think about that.” The evangelical radio host’s comments come as particularly funny (in a sad way) given his history of cheering on terrible things like a Ugandan law outright criminalizing homosexuality. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/evangelical-radio-host-unhinged-homofascists-will-make-christians-wear-badges-like-jews-in-holocaust/
Friday, April 12, 2013 4:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Where'd Rap go? I thought he said he could keep this up all day...?
Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:46 PM
MAL4PREZ
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Where'd Rap go? I thought he said he could keep this up all day...? I can, but have more important things to do than to bandy crooked words w/ an aged hippie!
Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:18 AM
Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:40 AM
Quote:Representatives from the CIA, including newly-installed Director John Brennan, didn’t quite know what to make of Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) this week when they sat down to answer questions from the House Intelligence Committee. Each topic she raised seemed to draw blank stares and more questions from the intelligence officials, who could not believe the congresswoman was broaching various classified subject in the open forum. When she failed to get the answers she was looking for, Bachmann said, “well if we aren’t going to talk about that, we aren’t going to talk about that, but that’s a question I’d like to know.” She moved on, asking Brennan “what is our red line regarding the Iranian nuclear development program?” “That clearly is a policy question,” Brennan responded, explaining to Bachmann why he’s not the right person to answer that question. From there, Bachmann went off on a tangent about the various times the United States and U.S. interests have been attacked over the last few decades, expressing her concern that an Iranian nuclear attack could also come as a surprise. But the most bizarre moment came at the end of Bachmann’s time when she asked about Iran’s “heavy water reactor.” The CIA men conferred amongst themselves for several seconds before politely informing Bachmann that it would be better to have that discussion in a “closed session.” It’s not entirely clear whether Bachmann thought she would be able to extract classified information live on C-SPAN from Brennan and his CIA colleagues, or if she was just using her platform on the committee to air some of things on the international stage that have been bugging her. Either way, it was likely one of the strangest interactions between Congress and the CIA ever caught on camera. http://www.politifreak.com/rep-michele-bachmann-completely-baffles-john-brennan-with-bizarre-questions-during-cia-hearing/]
Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Sooooooo predictable. Little boy lost the game in a landslide, but he'll keep his eyes off the scoreboard while he takes his ball and goes home in a huff. *big big eyeroll*
Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:07 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: *edit* Though not an actual April Fool's joke, I offer a retraction, none the less. Congressman Hank Johnson (D-GA) Hey, I said it was unbelievable, and it is!! Quote: I would like to offer a spirited defense of the unjustly-maligned Representative Johnson. First of all, although this is a little-known fact, he and Admiral Willard, the man he is questioning in the video, are old friends. They met in 1986 on the set of the film “Top Gun.” Willard was a consultant and actor in the film (you can look it up), but the telegenic Johnson also played a bit role in the film as one of the other pilots. Willard and Johnson struck up an acquaintance on the set, finding that they shared a remarkable gift for deadpan humor. They developed a number of routines that had the other “Top Gun” actors and extras in stitches, and were both known for keeping a straight face throughout the silliest exchanges, a skill that served them remarkably well during their recent encounter in Congress. One of their old routines involved a bit about landing an airplane on the island of Guam. The joke was about how small and narrow the island was, so thin it couldn’t even hold a runway, and so any landing might cause the whole island to tip over. It may not sound so funny in print. But it was Johnson and Willard’s delivery that made it so special. The exchange you see in the video has been much criticized. But it has actually been widely misunderstood. That portion of the question-and-answer merely represents an updating of their old routine, with both Johnson and Willard playing their familiar roles. Note how deftly Johnson sets Willard up with classic comic timing, drawing it all out with lengthy emphasis on just how tiny the island is. Then, after Johnson expresses his concern that Guam just might tip over and capsize (this time because of added people, rather than an airplane), Willard responds with perfect composure and the straightest of faces, “We don’t anticipate that.” Some have wrongly suspected the two of staging an April Fools’ prank. But that cannot be true, since it happened last Friday, well in advance of that date. No, it was just a bit of welcome levity from two old buddies, designed to lend a certain amount of lightness to these heavy and troubled times. How sad that such well-intentioned efforts have been so universally misconstrued I'm going w/ the above info being factual, and the two really were doing their own 'bit'. No one really COULD be that stupid, but for the previous holder of that Congressional seat, ..... who knows. But the point remains..... If the Congressman has any REAL concerns on the issue of adding 5,000 more troops on station in Guam, he does his cause, himself and his constituents no good by engaging in this game of footsie, in the formal setting of a Congressional hearing. If it really is a just one big f-ing joke, then why even bother at all ?
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: *edit* Though not an actual April Fool's joke, I offer a retraction, none the less. Congressman Hank Johnson (D-GA) Hey, I said it was unbelievable, and it is!! Quote: I would like to offer a spirited defense of the unjustly-maligned Representative Johnson. First of all, although this is a little-known fact, he and Admiral Willard, the man he is questioning in the video, are old friends. They met in 1986 on the set of the film “Top Gun.” Willard was a consultant and actor in the film (you can look it up), but the telegenic Johnson also played a bit role in the film as one of the other pilots. Willard and Johnson struck up an acquaintance on the set, finding that they shared a remarkable gift for deadpan humor. They developed a number of routines that had the other “Top Gun” actors and extras in stitches, and were both known for keeping a straight face throughout the silliest exchanges, a skill that served them remarkably well during their recent encounter in Congress. One of their old routines involved a bit about landing an airplane on the island of Guam. The joke was about how small and narrow the island was, so thin it couldn’t even hold a runway, and so any landing might cause the whole island to tip over. It may not sound so funny in print. But it was Johnson and Willard’s delivery that made it so special. The exchange you see in the video has been much criticized. But it has actually been widely misunderstood. That portion of the question-and-answer merely represents an updating of their old routine, with both Johnson and Willard playing their familiar roles. Note how deftly Johnson sets Willard up with classic comic timing, drawing it all out with lengthy emphasis on just how tiny the island is. Then, after Johnson expresses his concern that Guam just might tip over and capsize (this time because of added people, rather than an airplane), Willard responds with perfect composure and the straightest of faces, “We don’t anticipate that.” Some have wrongly suspected the two of staging an April Fools’ prank. But that cannot be true, since it happened last Friday, well in advance of that date. No, it was just a bit of welcome levity from two old buddies, designed to lend a certain amount of lightness to these heavy and troubled times. How sad that such well-intentioned efforts have been so universally misconstrued I'm going w/ the above info being factual, and the two really were doing their own 'bit'. No one really COULD be that stupid, but for the previous holder of that Congressional seat, ..... who knows. But the point remains..... If the Congressman has any REAL concerns on the issue of adding 5,000 more troops on station in Guam, he does his cause, himself and his constituents no good by engaging in this game of footsie, in the formal setting of a Congressional hearing. If it really is a just one big f-ing joke, then why even bother at all ?
Quote: I would like to offer a spirited defense of the unjustly-maligned Representative Johnson. First of all, although this is a little-known fact, he and Admiral Willard, the man he is questioning in the video, are old friends. They met in 1986 on the set of the film “Top Gun.” Willard was a consultant and actor in the film (you can look it up), but the telegenic Johnson also played a bit role in the film as one of the other pilots. Willard and Johnson struck up an acquaintance on the set, finding that they shared a remarkable gift for deadpan humor. They developed a number of routines that had the other “Top Gun” actors and extras in stitches, and were both known for keeping a straight face throughout the silliest exchanges, a skill that served them remarkably well during their recent encounter in Congress. One of their old routines involved a bit about landing an airplane on the island of Guam. The joke was about how small and narrow the island was, so thin it couldn’t even hold a runway, and so any landing might cause the whole island to tip over. It may not sound so funny in print. But it was Johnson and Willard’s delivery that made it so special. The exchange you see in the video has been much criticized. But it has actually been widely misunderstood. That portion of the question-and-answer merely represents an updating of their old routine, with both Johnson and Willard playing their familiar roles. Note how deftly Johnson sets Willard up with classic comic timing, drawing it all out with lengthy emphasis on just how tiny the island is. Then, after Johnson expresses his concern that Guam just might tip over and capsize (this time because of added people, rather than an airplane), Willard responds with perfect composure and the straightest of faces, “We don’t anticipate that.” Some have wrongly suspected the two of staging an April Fools’ prank. But that cannot be true, since it happened last Friday, well in advance of that date. No, it was just a bit of welcome levity from two old buddies, designed to lend a certain amount of lightness to these heavy and troubled times. How sad that such well-intentioned efforts have been so universally misconstrued
Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:17 PM
Quote:1. “…the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more.” ~ Michele Bachmann, Speaking to Iowans For Tax Relief about the framers of the Constitution. January, 2011 2. “A poet once said, ‘life can be a challenge, life can seem impossible, but it’s never easy when there’s so much on the line.”’ ~ GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, quoting lyrics from the theme song to ‘Pokemon: The Movie 2000.’ The ”poet” who wrote those lyrics was disco queen Donna Summer. 3. “Add one little bit on the end… Think of ‘potato’, how’s it spelled? You’re right phonetically, but what else…? There ya’ go… all right!” ~ Dan Quayle 4. “AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.” ~Jerry Falwell 5. “American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.” ~ Christine O’Donnell 6. “As yesterday’s positive report card shows, childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured.” ~ George W. Bush 7. “Because I do not wear high heels. She has questioned my manhood, and I think it’s fair to respond. I have cowboy boots, they have real bullshit on them. And that’s Weld County bullshit, not Washington, D.C., bullshit.” ~ Tea Party candidate Ken Buck, after being asked why people should vote for him for the Colorado GOP Senate nomination. Buck was referring to an ad run by his opponent, which decried third-party spending on behalf of his campaign and urged Buck to ”be man enough” to run the ads himself, July 21, 2010. 8. “Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” ~ Rep. Michelle Bachmann 9. “Corporations are people, my friend… of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People’s pockets. Human beings, my friend.” ~ GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney 10. “Do you have blacks, too?” ~ George W. Bush 11. “Do you know, where does this phrase ‘separation of church and state’ come from? It was not in Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists. … The exact phrase ‘separation of Church and State’ came out of Adolph Hitler’s mouth, that’s where it comes from. So the next time your liberal friends talk about the separation of Church and State, ask them why they’re Nazis.” ~ Glen Urquhart, the Tea Party-backed Republican nominee for the Delaware House seat held by Rep. Mike Castle, April 2010 12. “Exercise freaks … are the ones putting stress on the health care system.” ~ Rush Limbaugh 13. “Facts are stupid things.” ~ Ronald Reagan 14. “Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.” ~ George W. Bush 15. “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” ~ Rush Limbaugh 16. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on you.” ~ Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-North Carolina) 17. “For seven and a half years I’ve worked alongside President Reagan. We’ve had triumphs. Made some mistakes. We’ve had some sex…uh…setbacks.” ~ George H.W. Bush 18. “From time to time there are going to be things that occur that are acts of God that cannot be prevented.” ~ Texas Gov. Rick Perry, on the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, in 2010 19. “Gay marriage is probably the biggest issue that will impact our state and our nation in the last, at least, thirty years. I AM NOT UNDERSTATING THAT.” ~ Michelle Bachmann 20. “Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the Ten Commandments.” ~ Sarah Palin 21. “Go f**k yourself.” ~ Vice President Dick Cheney to Sen. Patrick Leahy, during an angry exchange on the Senate floor about profiteering by Halliburton, June 22, 2004 22. “Good Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.” ~ Jerry Falwell 23. “Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn’t it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate.” ~ Sarah Palin 24. “Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them.” ~ Jerry Falwell 25. “He has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an ENEMY OF HUMANITY.” ~ Trent Franks on Obama 26. “He is purple – the gay-pride color, and his antenna is shaped like a triangle – the gay pride symbol.” ~ Jerry Falwell’s warning to parents that “Tinky Winky,” a character on Teletubbies, may be gay 27. “I absolutely do not believe in the science of man-caused climate change. It’s not proven by any stretch of the imagination…It’s far more likely that it’s just sunspot activity or just something in the geologic eons of time. Excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere ‘gets sucked down by trees and helps the trees grow.”’ ~ Ron Johnson 28. “I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport.” ~ George W. Bush 29. “I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.” ~ Ronald Reagan 30. “I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy — but that could change.” Dan Quayle 31. “I couldn’t imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Chanukah.” ~ President George W. Bush 32. “I don’t want to be associated with those people, but I also don’t want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that’s one of the things freedom requires is that we allow people to be boorish and uncivilized, but that doesn’t mean we approve of it.” ~ Rand Paul, taking issue with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 while arguing that government should not prevent private businesses from discriminating on the basis of race 33. “I even accept for the sake of argument that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged.” ~ Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia 34. “I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I’m not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it’s an interesting coincidence.” ~ Rep. Michele Bachmann 35. “I get speaker’s fees from time to time, but not very much.” ~ Mitt Romney, who earned $374,000 in speaking fees in one year according to according to his personal financial disclosure (January 2012) 36. “I have been in the situation of counseling young girls… who have had very at risk, difficult pregnancies. And my counsel was to look for some alternatives, which they did. And they found that they had made WHAT WAS REALLY A LEMON SITUATION INTO LEMONADE.” ~ Sharron Angle on abortion 37. “I hope that’s not where we’re going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I’ll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.” ~ Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle, floating the possibility of armed insurrection in a radio interview 38. “I just think my children, and your children, will be much better off, and much more successful getting married and raising a family. And I don’t want them to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid or successful option. It isn’t.” ~ Carl Paladino, New York State Tea Party-backed candidate for Governor, Oct. 10, 2010 39. “I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family.” ~ George W. Bush 40. “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.” ~ George W. Bush 41. “I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix.” ~ Dan Quayle 42. “I love California; I practically grew up in Phoenix.” ~ Dan Quayle 43. “I love this state. The trees are the right height.” ~ Mitt Romney, campaigning in Michigan (February 2012) 44. “I think I was unprepared for war.” ~ George W. Bush 45. “I think that two wrongs don’t make a right. And I have been in the situation of counseling young girls, not 13 but 15, who have had very at risk, difficult pregnancies. And my counsel was to look for some alternatives, which they did. And they found that they had made what was really a lemon situation into lemonade.” ~ Sharron Angle, explaining why she is against abortion even in cases of rape or incest, July 8, 2010 46. “I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn’t study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people.” ~ Dan Quayle 47. “I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started.” ~ Donald Rumsfeld 48. “I’m not a witch…I’m you.” ~ Christine O’Donnell 49. “I’m ready for the ‘gotcha’ questions and they’re already starting to come. And when they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I’m going to say, you know, I don’t know. Do you know?” ~ Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain 50. “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.” ~ George W. Bush 51. “If we took away the minimum wage-if conceivably it was gone-we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.” ~ Michele Bachmann 52. “If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president.” ~ Ann Coulter 53. “I’ll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office.” ~ George W. Bush 54. “Isn’t that the ultimate homeland security, standing up and defending marriage?” ~ Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), on congressional efforts to pass a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage (July 2004) 55. “It is not enough to be abstinent with other people, YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE ABSTINENT ALONE. The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery, so you can’t masturbate without lust.” ~ Christine O’Donnell 56. “It may be a blessing in disguise. … Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it’s a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other.” ~ Pat Robertson 57. “It’s not unusual in political rallies, it’s not unusual in parades, to see that type of thing.” ~ Joe Miller on guns at his rallies 58. “My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better.” ~ South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer, arguing against government food assistance for poor residents. 59. “One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is ‘to be prepared.’” ~ Dan Quayle 60. “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush 61. “Our nation was founded on violence. The option is on the table. I don’t think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms.” ~ Tea Party-backed Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden, suggesting the violent overthrow of the U.S. government if Republicans don’t win at the ballot box, interview with Dallas’s WFAA-TV, Oct. 21, 2010 62. “People ask me, ‘What are you going to do to develop jobs in your state?’ Well, that’s not my job as a U.S. senator.” ~ Sharron Angle 63. “PETA is not happy that my dog likes fresh air.” ~ Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2007, responding to criticism from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals following revelations that he had once strapped the family dog to the roof of his car during a 12-hour road trip 64. “President Obama wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob … Oh, I understand why he wants you to go to college. He wants to remake you in his image.” ~ Rick Santorum 65. “Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?” ~ George W. Bush 66. “‘Refudiate,’ ‘misunderestimate,’ ‘wee-wee’d up.’ English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!’” ~ Sarah Palin 67. “She wears little eye-patch underwear. So, the other day she came here with her underwear, Thursday. And so, we had made love Wednesday–a lot! And so she’ll, she’s all, ‘I am going up and down the stairs, and you’re dripping out of me!’ So messy!” ~ State Rep. Mike Duvall (R-Calif.) on a live mic referring to an affair with a lobbyist 68. “She’s not young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of a President. And besides, she has cancer.”’ ~ future House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), reportedly speaking to a friend in 1980 about why he was divorcing his first wife 69. “the ABA is about as far left as the Communist Party, so those who usually get those awards are lawyers committed to socialism, not freedom.” ~ Tea Party Nation Founder Judson Phillips 70. “The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews.” ~ Jerry Falwell 71. “The exact phrase ‘separation of Church and State’ came out of Adolph HItler’s mouth, that’s where it comes from. So the next time your liberal friends talk about the separation of Church and State, ASK THEM WHY THEY’RE NAZIS.” ~ Glen Urquhart 72. “The Federal Department of Education should be eliminated. The Department of Education is unconstitutional and should not be involved in education, at any level.” ~ Sharron Angle, July 12, 2010 73. “The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” ~ Pat Robertson 74. “The greatest threat to America is not necessarily a recession or even another terrorist attack. The greatest threat to America is a liberal media bias.” ~ Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) 75. “The LensCrafters of big abortion.” ~ Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), describing Planned Parenthood 76. “The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them.” ~ Rush Limbaugh 77. “There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.” ~ Michele Bachmann 78. “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on –shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” ~ George W. Bush 79. “THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES with basketball courts, bathroom facilities, toilet facilities. Many young people would love to get the hell out of cities” ~ Carl Paladino on housing poor people in prisons 80. “They [Republicans] say, ‘You’re too conservative.’ Was Thomas Jefferson too conservative? I’m tired of some people calling me wacky.” ~ Nevada GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle, March 21, 2010 81. “This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating.” ~ George W. Bush 82. “Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.” ~ George W. Bush 83. “Trees cause more pollution than automobiles.” ~ Ronald Reagan 84. “We had the 60s sexual revolution, and now people are dying of AIDS.” ~ Christine O’Donnell, Politically Incorrect. August 1998 85. “We have a lot of work to do. It’s a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq-Pakistan border.” ~ John McCain (the countries share no common border) 86. “We just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.” ~ Ann Coulter 87. “We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals.” ~ Ann Coulter 88. “We need to uptick our image with everyone, including one-armed midgets.” ~ Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. 89. “We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease.” ~ President George W. Bush 90. “We took the Bible and prayer out of public schools. Now we’re having weekly shootings. We had the 60s sexual revolution, and now people are dying of AIDS.” ~ Christine O’Donnell, Politically Incorrect. August 1998 91. “We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic?” ~ Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada’s single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010 92. “Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts.” ~ Dan Quayle 93. “Well, I learned a lot….I went down to (Latin America) to find out from them and (learn) their views. You’d be surprised. They’re all individual countries” ~ Ronald Reagan 94. “What I don’t know is what the unexpected might be.” ~ John McCain 95. “What I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That’s the kind of spirit that I have, too.” ~ GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, getting her John Waynes mixed up during an interview after launching her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, where she grew up. The beloved movie star John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, three hours away. The John Wayne that Waterloo was home to is John Wayne Gacy, a notorious serial killer. 96. “What people recognize is that there’s a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline. They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward.” ~ GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann (R-MN), apparently unaware that the Soviet Union collapsed more than two decades ago (August 2011) 97. “When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh shut up’ I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining.” ~ Glenn Beck 98. “When the President does it, that means that it’s not illegal.” ~ Richard M. Nixon 99. “You know what, evolution is a myth….Why aren’t monkeys still evolving into humans?” ~ Christine O’Donnell 100. “You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.” ~ George W. Bush
Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2:
Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Sooooooo predictable. Little boy lost the game in a landslide, but he'll keep his eyes off the scoreboard while he takes his ball and goes home in a huff. *big big eyeroll*
Monday, April 15, 2013 5:58 AM
Monday, April 15, 2013 6:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Rappy keeps trying to sell us this Hank Johnson story - this is about the fourth or fifth time he's brought it up - even though he himself has debunked it right here on this board. Here is Rappy's post about Mr. Johnson, in its entirety: Quote:Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: *edit* Though not an actual April Fool's joke, I offer a retraction, none the less. Congressman Hank Johnson (D-GA) Hey, I said it was unbelievable, and it is!! Quote: I would like to offer a spirited defense of the unjustly-maligned Representative Johnson. First of all, although this is a little-known fact, he and Admiral Willard, the man he is questioning in the video, are old friends. They met in 1986 on the set of the film “Top Gun.” Willard was a consultant and actor in the film (you can look it up), but the telegenic Johnson also played a bit role in the film as one of the other pilots. Willard and Johnson struck up an acquaintance on the set, finding that they shared a remarkable gift for deadpan humor. They developed a number of routines that had the other “Top Gun” actors and extras in stitches, and were both known for keeping a straight face throughout the silliest exchanges, a skill that served them remarkably well during their recent encounter in Congress. One of their old routines involved a bit about landing an airplane on the island of Guam. The joke was about how small and narrow the island was, so thin it couldn’t even hold a runway, and so any landing might cause the whole island to tip over. It may not sound so funny in print. But it was Johnson and Willard’s delivery that made it so special. The exchange you see in the video has been much criticized. But it has actually been widely misunderstood. That portion of the question-and-answer merely represents an updating of their old routine, with both Johnson and Willard playing their familiar roles. Note how deftly Johnson sets Willard up with classic comic timing, drawing it all out with lengthy emphasis on just how tiny the island is. Then, after Johnson expresses his concern that Guam just might tip over and capsize (this time because of added people, rather than an airplane), Willard responds with perfect composure and the straightest of faces, “We don’t anticipate that.” Some have wrongly suspected the two of staging an April Fools’ prank. But that cannot be true, since it happened last Friday, well in advance of that date. No, it was just a bit of welcome levity from two old buddies, designed to lend a certain amount of lightness to these heavy and troubled times. How sad that such well-intentioned efforts have been so universally misconstrued I'm going w/ the above info being factual, and the two really were doing their own 'bit'. No one really COULD be that stupid, but for the previous holder of that Congressional seat, ..... who knows. But the point remains..... If the Congressman has any REAL concerns on the issue of adding 5,000 more troops on station in Guam, he does his cause, himself and his constituents no good by engaging in this game of footsie, in the formal setting of a Congressional hearing. If it really is a just one big f-ing joke, then why even bother at all ?
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I watched most of the Congressional hearings for Brennan and Hagel. I must have missed this one with Bachmann. I'm glad I did, or I might be needing a new tv screen now. She yammers on incoherently about non-existent drones, and when she finally gets around to a question on Iran's nukes she expects them to answer a sensitive national security question in an open hearing? Jeeez Louise.
Monday, April 15, 2013 4:10 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, April 15, 2013 6:20 PM
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:19 AM
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Can't even read
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: You got it 100% wrong according to you, Wilbur, actually for once admitted it, published a retraction, and yet you still can't seem to get it through your thick head that it was all a gag. Rappy has shown himself incapable of processing new information and assimilating it into his world view.
Quote: I'm going w/ the above info being factual, and the two really were doing their own 'bit'. No one really COULD be that stupid, but for the previous holder of that Congressional seat, ..... who knows. But the point remains..... If the Congressman has any REAL concerns on the issue of adding 5,000 more troops on station in Guam, he does his cause, himself and his constituents no good by engaging in this game of footsie, in the formal setting of a Congressional hearing. If it really is a just one big f-ing joke, then why even bother at all ?
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I didn't retract anything, genius.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I offer a retraction, none the less.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:24 AM
Quote:Prudish GOP Wants To Ban Talk Of ‘Second Base’ In Ohio Classrooms Ohio Republicans are attempting to ban the discussion of “gateway sexual activity” from the sexual education classroom. During a debate concerning the budget of the state of Ohio, state House Republicans added an amendment to a two-year budget plan that would ban teaching “gateway sexual activities” in sexual education courses. They’re defining “gateway sexual activity” to be, “any touching of an erogenous zone of another, including without limitation the thigh, genitals, buttock, pubic region, or, if the person is a female, a breast.” In all seriousness, two minutes of research will turn up a simple fact that makes you wonder how politicians can truly be that ignorant and idiotic: the age of sexual consent in Ohio is 16 years of age. That means that not only are they refusing to properly educate adolescents about the dangers, risks and, yes, benefits, of sex, but they are making it against the law for behaviors that can lead to sex to even be discussed. That’s a major problem. Not only have abstinence-only curriculum laws been tied to higher incidences of STDs, STIs and pregnancy, but refusing to discuss sexuality publicly is a contributing factor to America’s rape culture. It’s not enough to assume that kids are going to be taught about sex at home; decades of misinformation before the sexual revolution should be evidence enough of that. Indeed, the rampant spreading of misinformation continues to this day — including essentially lying to constituents by pretending that abstinence-only sex education is going to stop or slow the rate of teen sex.Quote:Ohio isn’t the first state to worry about students being corrupted by learning about “gateway sexual activity.” Almost exactly one year ago, Tennessee Republicans pushed to strengthen their state’s abstinence-only law by defining kissing and hand-holding as gateway activities that could lead teens to engage in sexual intercourse. Of course, whether or not U.S. teenagers are taught abstinence in their health classes, most of them still become sexually active. By their 19th birthday, seven in ten American teens will have had sex. The above, coupled with the fact that Ohio’s age of consent is 16, illustrates the utter ridiculousness of the legislation being introduced by Republicans in the Ohio state House.
Quote:Ohio isn’t the first state to worry about students being corrupted by learning about “gateway sexual activity.” Almost exactly one year ago, Tennessee Republicans pushed to strengthen their state’s abstinence-only law by defining kissing and hand-holding as gateway activities that could lead teens to engage in sexual intercourse. Of course, whether or not U.S. teenagers are taught abstinence in their health classes, most of them still become sexually active. By their 19th birthday, seven in ten American teens will have had sex.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:31 AM
Quote:Homophobic Lawmaker’s Attempt To Make Sodomy And Oral Sex Illegal Fails Miserably As we all know, the Supreme Court case Lawrence Vs. Texas overturned the nation’s sodomy laws. However, there seems to be one person who wishes to revive the fight. Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli petitioned the full United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Court, seeking to reinstate Virginia’s “Crimes against Nature” law, which would effectively criminalize all oral and anal sex. In other words, this is clearly aimed at gay sex. He got nowhere with his request, though, as there was a unanimous response to the petition by the Fourth Court, which issued an order rejecting the petition. Perhaps the most notable part of the entire affair is that no judge on the panel wished to poll for the petition. Ironically enough, what Cuccinelli likely could have gotten through would have been a state ban on sex with minors. That would have been reasonable. But noooooo. He just had to have a blanket ban on all gay sex on the books, despite the fact that it is unconstitutional per Lawrence vs. Texas. The case involved a felony prosecution of a 47 year-old man charged with soliciting oral sex from a 17 year-old girl. While a blanket ban on oral sex is unconstitutional under Lawrence, Virginia is permitted to pass laws criminalizing sex with people who are underage. Indeed, the Virginia legislature considered a bill which would have done exactly that, by bringing the “Crimes Against Nature” law in compliance with Lawrence, in 2004. Cuccinelli voted against that bill because he wanted to keep an outright ban on gay sex on the books, even if that ban was unconstitutional. In other words, if Cuccinelli had not refused to bring state law into compliance with the Constitution, he wouldn’t have lost his case before the Fourth Circuit. Give it up, Mr. Cuccinelli. I know that this will fall on deaf ears, but most of America has moved past the idea that it is any of the government’s business what goes on in the private lives of two consenting adults. No matter how much you might think you and your fellow social conservatives are the nation’s morality police, you simply are not. Now, I suggest you get back to doing your actual job, rather than attempting to pry into the personal lives of your constituents via this trumped up, unconstitutional legislation. Remember: The Constitution rules this land, not any one person or moral beliefs of any one group. No matter how hard you fight it, so it shall stay.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:36 AM
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And Storybook ? I wasn't SELLING anything, so no, I don't expect anyone to buy. Sorry, but my comments go beyond your bumper sticker mentality to comprehend.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:12 PM
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