U.S. Military: We Could Have Saved Ambassador Stevens by Jongsstraw

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U.S. Military: We Could Have Saved Ambassador Stevens

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:28 PM

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthink
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"Even liberal columnist Maureen Dowd commented: "The defense secretary at the time, Leon Panetta, insisted, 'We quickly responded.' But they responded that they would not respond." Dowd sums it up: "All the factions wove their own mythologies at the expense of our deepest national mythology: that if there is anything, no matter how unlikely or difficult, that we can do to try to save the lives of Americans who have volunteered for dangerous assignments, we must do it."

They could have been saved. Someone just decided to let them all die. Someday we'll find out who and why.

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:35 PM

REAVERFAN

Grasp!

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:40 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

"...if there is anything, no matter how unlikely or difficult, that we can do to try to save the lives of Americans who have volunteered for dangerous assignments, we must do it."

When has that ever been a national priority? We could have saved the lives of more than four thousand American servicemembers by not invading Iraq, and the choice was made to let them all die. More died in Afghanistan, purely by choice, when they could have been saved by NOT doing anything unlikely or difficult, simply by NOT starting yet another war of choice. More than 58,000 could have been saved by not starting a war in Vietnam, but the choice was made that trying to save American lives that way would have been less profitable to American corporations.

As long as there is profit in war, America will never know lasting peace. That's your choice, and that's what you've chosen.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:16 PM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

"...if there is anything, no matter how unlikely or difficult, that we can do to try to save the lives of Americans who have volunteered for dangerous assignments, we must do it."

When has that ever been a national priority? We could have saved the lives of more than four thousand American servicemembers by not invading Iraq, and the choice was made to let them all die. More died in Afghanistan, purely by choice, when they could have been saved by NOT doing anything unlikely or difficult, simply by NOT starting yet another war of choice. More than 58,000 could have been saved by not starting a war in Vietnam, but the choice was made that trying to save American lives that way would have been less profitable to American corporations.

As long as there is profit in war, America will never know lasting peace. That's your choice, and that's what you've chosen.

That's Maureen Dowd, the renowned liberal columnist for the NY Times you quoted, not me. Your Bush obsession is still hilarious. And I like how you just conveniently forget that Democrat presidents got America into WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:26 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Another pointless thread.

What is this, number 57 regarding Benghazi?

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 4:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Grasp!

I wish who ever is feeding you crackers to chirp your 1 word replies would stop.

As for the topic, absolutely the US military could have done something, That's not even debatable.

I'm just a bit surprised that Paneta would blatantly say something so ridiculous. Democrat or not, he's earned some level of credibility. Or he HAD, until this.

No more.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:11 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

That's Maureen Dowd, the renowned liberal columnist for the NY Times you quoted, not me.

Nope, that's Maureen Dowd that YOU quoted. I've never read her, but she sounds like an idiot. The NYT has a history of hiring morons, it seems. They have a habit of working at Fox when no rational person will buy their bullshit any longer.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:14 PM

KWICKO

By the way, nowhere in your article does Dowd say that the military could have saved anyone at the consulate. Neither does anyone else quoted in the article.

Your Obama Derangement Syndrome is making you hallucinate; you seem to be reading things that aren't there.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

The title of this thread is complete fabrication.

There goes Jongssie... making shit up again.

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:39 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The title of this thread is complete fabrication.

There goes Jongssie... making shit up again.

Exactly. Nowhere in the article does ANYBODY in the U.S. military say what Jongsie claims in the title.

Republicans just can't help but make shit up when it comes to this kind of stuff.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Oh, I LONG for the day when anyone could post-edit the title of a thread! If I could, I'd re-label this one LIAR LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE!

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 2:33 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The title of this thread is complete fabrication.

There goes Jongssie... making shit up again.

The title of this thread is quoted from the American Thinker article, which you apparently did not read.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:19 AM

REAVERFAN

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The title of this thread is complete fabrication.

There goes Jongssie... making shit up again.

The title of this thread is quoted from the American Thinker article, which you apparently did not read.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

American Thinker. Sorry. It's just a partisan rag written for the gullible.

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
American Thinker. Sorry. It's just a partisan rag written for the gullible.

Slay the messenger, dismiss entirely out of hand, and that way you don't even have to deal w/ the message.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Well apparently YOU didn't read the article. B/c the title of this thread? Nothing to do with the contents of the article. C'mon little boy - show us you've learned how to read. Discuss something from the article and how it relates to the title.

ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Well apparently YOU didn't read the article. B/c the title of this thread? Nothing to do with the contents of the article. C'mon little boy - show us you've learned how to read. Discuss something from the article and how it relates to the title.

Everything in the article relates to the title.

Talk about learning how to read.

Sheesh.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:11 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Well apparently YOU didn't read the article. B/c the title of this thread? Nothing to do with the contents of the article. C'mon little boy - show us you've learned how to read. Discuss something from the article and how it relates to the title.

Everything in the article relates to the title.

Talk about learning how to read.

Sheesh.

A total collapse of leadership and democracy from Obama on down. They all have the Ambassador's blood on their hands.

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:55 PM

REAVERFAN

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
American Thinker. Sorry. It's just a partisan rag written for the gullible.

Slay the messenger, dismiss entirely out of hand, and that way you don't even have to deal w/ the message.

That rag has zero credibility. Zero. Better off reading the Onion.

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:09 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Everything in the article relates to the title.

*EVERY*thing?

OK - then you should have no problem finding where the military said "we could have saved Ambassador Stevens", just like the title claims - "U.S. Military: We Could Have Saved Ambassador Stevens".

So go find it.

ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I already did find it.

Now it's YOUR turn.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"I already did find it."

Then you can post it. Because hallucinations don't count. Or yanno, show yourself to be a liar - again.

ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!

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Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:53 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I already did find it.

Not in the linked article, you didn't.

Did you find it in your ass while your head was up there for a look around? That's where you generally find your "facts", after all.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, June 5, 2013 6:55 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
American Thinker. Sorry. It's just a partisan rag written for the gullible.

Slay the messenger, dismiss entirely out of hand, and that way you don't even have to deal w/ the message...

Yes, that way you don't even have to deal with the message that isn't in the article Jongsie linked to.

Thanks for playing, though. You lose.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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