Gun Violence Rocks Chicago as 8 are Shot in One Day by Jongsstraw

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Gun Violence Rocks Chicago as 8 are Shot in One Day

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 6:21 AM

By Jonathan P. Hicks

5/31/2013 02:28 PM EDT

The level of gun violence in Chicago, which has caused shock waves nationally, is continuing with eight people having been shot in the nation’s third largest city in a 24-hour period that ended Friday morning, including one that ended with the death of a 15-year-old boy.

Chicago police said that the teenager, Patrick Sykes, was shot several times early Thursday afternoon. They said that witnesses offered conflicting versions of what occurred, with the shooters having been either on bicycles or on foot.

Two people were taken into custody for questioning, but they were released without any charges being filed, police said.

The 24-hour period of gun violence also included the shooting of an 18-year-old man, three women and several others.

The high level of violence in the month of May came shortly after the Chicago Police Department announced that crime in the city fell 8 percent in the first quarter of 2013, compared with the same period last year, and 15 percent from the same period of 2011.

Still, there are great concerns about violent crime in Chicago, where Hadiya Pendleton, a 15-year-old honor student, who performed at President Obama’s inauguration, was killed by a bullet while standing in a South Side playground.

Chicago’s murder rate is widely considered to be fueled by the drug wars that are fought between the city’s network of gangs. The homicide rate has been largely confined to the city’s south and west areas, African-American bastions of Chicago.

And in 2012, the number of murders climbed, with homicides increasing by 16 percent over the previous year.

“Hopefully, this should be a reminder that the citizens of the city have not been able to get things under control,” said Damon Stewart, an attorney and activist who works with youth in Chicago, speaking with BET.com.

“If you really want to protect a child, families and communities have a role,” said Stewart, who is working with the Pendleton family on a foundation to honor their daughter. “And we have to be even more involved.”

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2013/05/31/gun-violence-rocks-chicago
-as-8-are-shot-in-one-day.html

Time Magazine recently celebrated the Mayor for his record in Chicago.

As crime and murder rates drop nationally, Chicago's soar. Time Magazine left out some letters after Bull.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 1:47 PM

JONGSSTRAW

for the people of Chicago....suffering under yet another corrupt and inept Democrat mayor. Want to not have 8 shootings in one day? Want to not have rising crime and death tolls? Either elect a Republican next time, or bring in Rudy Giuliani asap for some pointers on how to clean up gang violence.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 1:59 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Chicago’s murder rate is widely considered to be fueled by the drug wars that are fought between the city’s network of gangs.

Isn't this about drug laws? I don't think that is confined to democrats.

Very partisan views here.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:04 PM

JONGSSTRAW

It's about Chicago. Emanuel's been mayor there for three years and the crime and murder rates have continued to go up. All cities have their drug gangs, but not all cities have one-party rule and systemic ineptness.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:10 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's about Chicago. Emanuel's been mayor there for three years and the crime and murder rates have continued to go up. All cities have their drug gangs, but not all cities have one-party rule and systemic ineptness.

Perhaps you could post more information on the one-party rule and systemic ineptness, because the article does not attribute the gun deaths to these factors. If you want to make that link, I think you need to demonstrate more than him being 'a demoncratic mayor.'

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:27 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

By Jonathan P. Hicks

5/31/2013 02:28 PM EDT

The high level of violence in the month of May came shortly after the Chicago Police Department announced that crime in the city fell 8 percent in the first quarter of 2013, compared with the same period last year, and 15 percent from the same period of 2011.

Perhaps the Chicago PD and the Mayor's office are BS'ing. Or perhaps this is a one time anomaly. The same number can come up twice in a row in roulette. You can shoot craps 10 rolls in a row. But it doesn't happen every day.

Does anybody have access to the raw stats? I'm too lazy to dig 'em up myself, but they might suggest whether this is just a partisan attack, or a genuine " gotcha!" by the right.

The newspaper piece has, to me, the feel of a biased media piling on the Chicago murder capital story.

E-T-A- Just went back to check. The headline says 8 SHOT. From the body of the story, only 2 were fatalities. But the story mixes up the number of shootings with the number of murders, doesn't it?

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:33 PM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

The newspaper piece has, to me, the feel of a biased media piling on the Chicago murder capital story.

That's pretty funny. BET is Black Education Television, and they have every right to be outraged at the carnage going on in Chicago's South Side.

And Time Magazine is as liberal-friendly as it gets.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's about Chicago. Emanuel's been mayor there for three years and the crime and murder rates have continued to go up. All cities have their drug gangs, but not all cities have one-party rule and systemic ineptness.

Perhaps you could post more information on the one-party rule and systemic ineptness, because the article does not attribute the gun deaths to these factors. If you want to make that link, I think you need to demonstrate more than him being 'a demoncratic mayor.'

You're asking Jongsie here to cite facts and evidence. It seems you don't know him at all. Facts and evidence have no meaning for him, and he's quite proud of that.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:56 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

The newspaper piece has, to me, the feel of a biased media piling on the Chicago murder capital story.

That's pretty funny. BET is Black Education Television, and they have every right to be outraged at the carnage going on in Chicago's South Side.

And Time Magazine is as liberal-friendly as it gets.

Cites?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, June 3, 2013 1:04 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
By Jonathan P. Hicks

5/31/2013 02:28 PM EDT

Still, there are great concerns about violent crime in Chicago, where Hadiya Pendleton, a 15-year-old honor student, who performed at President Obama’s inauguration, was killed by a bullet while standing in a South Side playground.

Just started checking this story out. Not sure what the shooting on this child is doing in a story about 8 shootings in one day. She was killed Jan 29, 2013.

I may have been too lazy to check this story out. But now I'm gonna pursue it at least a little ways. Smellin' a lot of something comin' off of it.

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Monday, June 3, 2013 1:20 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

first update:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Teen-Killed-9-Wounded-in-Overnigh
t-Violence-209780981.html

The list of wounds was: knee, legs, foot, buttocks, foot, graze shoulder, graze wrist, elbow.

Sounds like these Chicago gun violence people should enroll in some marksmanship classes. Hardly a life threatening wound in the bunch. And it sounds like if a few of them had been an inch the other way, they'd have been near-misses.

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Monday, June 3, 2013 1:47 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

another update:

http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/illinois/chicago.html#.Uax7
qZwQPlQ

nice graph here, shows continuous decline since 1999, increasing decline since 2010 (Hey, Rahm Emmanuel's been in office for 3 years, hasn't he, Jong?)

Chicago is still higher than Illinois overall, and also than the national average.

Here's some numbers:

2010

Aggravated assault. 13,757

Murder/homicide 432

Total 173,951

Violent 28,402

2013 (Projected. The year ain't over yet, is it?)

Aggravated assault. 10,227

Murder/homicide 336

Total 161,665

Violent 24,241

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Monday, June 3, 2013 2:44 AM

KWICKO

Careful, NOBC - You'll get labeled an "Obamabot grasping at straws" if you keep spouting such useless things as FACTS. Righties really hate facts, it would seem.

"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, June 3, 2013 4:01 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Yeah, I know. But I can't help myself. I know stuff is wrong. And I've caught myself in a key phrase. Seems like whenever I write, "I'm too lazy to look into this myself," I end up doing it. And I end up, mostly, proving, with those stupid old facts, that I was right.

Maybe I gotta not be so lazy. I only spent about 45 minutes on research this morning, time I was already up anyway, because I couldn't sleep, and look how much I found.

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Monday, June 3, 2013 5:25 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
another update:

http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/illinois/chicago.html#.Uax7
qZwQPlQ

nice graph here, shows continuous decline since 1999, increasing decline since 2010 (Hey, Rahm Emmanuel's been in office for 3 years, hasn't he, Jong?)

Chicago is still higher than Illinois overall, and also than the national average.

Here's some numbers:

2010

Aggravated assault. 13,757

Murder/homicide 432

Total 173,951

Violent 28,402

2013 (Projected. The year ain't over yet, is it?)

Aggravated assault. 10,227

Murder/homicide 336

Total 161,665

Violent 24,241

But the Homicide total in 2012 was 506.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/06/chicagos-mu
rder-rate-is-finally-falling-can-that-keep-up/

Of course the Post tries to spin a couple of months 2013 data into a reduction, but there's a lot of year left.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Investigators are looking into a Facebook Live video shot on the West Side that shows a group of people holding a young man hostage.

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Sunday, October 17, 2021 6:45 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Man charged in Wicker Park mass shooting used girlfriend’s gun, prosecutors say
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-man-charged-wi
cker-park-shooting-20211014-s763dit6wva7zbrsxcamwgwipa-story.html

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Tuesday, April 5, 2022 6:07 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Woke Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot roasted for saying carjackers feel 'unloved': 'Take them home'

https://www.wrvo.org/2022-04-01/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-proposes-
gift-cards-to-help-residents-pay-for-gas

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Saturday, April 8, 2023 8:50 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Neo-Liberal Nu-Left Alt-Democrat Gangster pimps came to power under Obama and have been taking over America's great cities, but if you happen to mention it you lose your job!

Shit-cago shootings: 3 dead, 17 wounded

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-weekend-shootings-1-dead-
7-wounded/

‘Mindboggling’: Chicago elects new mayor ‘more radical’ than Lori Lightfoot

https://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/national/mindboggling-chicago-elect
s-new-mayor-more-radical-than-lori-lightfoot/video/f5e154872fe69b0ea0b705050e7934fd

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Sunday, January 14, 2024 11:40 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Parts of Ukraine seem safer but then a site says

Burglary = ZERO !??

have they stopped counting?
https://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/illinois/chicago.html

Quote:
2019 Crime (Actual Data)* Incidents
Aggravated Assault 15,296
Arson 416
Burglary 9,578
Larceny and Theft 62,083
Motor Vehicle Theft 9,081
Murder and Manslaughter 492
Rape 1,761
Robbery 7,983
Crime Rate (Total Incidents) 134,648
Property Crime 80,742
Violent Crime 25,532
2024 Crime (Projected Data)* Incidents
Aggravated Assault 18,236
Arson 912
Burglary 0
Larceny and Theft 52,315
Motor Vehicle Theft 2,382
Murder and Manslaughter 707
Rape 3,392
Robbery 6,045
Crime Rate (Total Incidents) 107,459
Property Crime 53,553
Violent Crime 29,270