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Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:42 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:A random act of violence has left a promising 22-year-old college baseball player dead, a family devastated and two countries half a world apart rattled. Christopher Lane, who's from Australia, was gunned down in Duncan, Oklahoma, while he was out jogging last week. The motive, police say? Three teens who had nothing better to do. "They witnessed a young man run by on the street. Chose him as the target," Police Chief Danny Ford told CNN affiliate KSWO. When police eventually arrested the three teens -- ages 15, 16 and 17 -- one of them offered up a motive that made clear that Lane, who attended East Central University on a baseball scholarship, was chosen at random. "He said the motive was, 'We were going to kill somebody,'" Ford told Australian radio station 3AW. "They decided all three of them were going to kill somebody." Police say the teens shot Lane in the back in the town of about 24,000 and sped away in their car. "There were some people that saw him stagger across the road, go to a kneeling position and collapse on the side of the road," Ford told KSWO. Attempts to revive Lane failed. Police caught the teens a few hours after the shooting. Thanks to security cameras from local businesses, police saw their car speeding down the street. Nearly 10,000 miles away in Australia, Lane's family struggled to cope with the news. "He's left his mark as we know, and you know there's not going to be any good come out of this, because it was just so senseless," Christopher's father, Peter Lane, said. "It's happened. It's wrong, and we're just trying and deal with it the best we can." http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:28 AM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:43 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:02 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:25 AM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: I think the problem is that those kids might be psychopaths. I predict about an 80% probability. Maybe 85%. No more than 90 though.
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:09 PM
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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:26 AM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:57 AM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Labeling someone a psychopath is something with which I strongly disagree. Nobody here has the expertise to do that. I would have suggested sociopath, but that's just as wrong; both terms come from a visceral reaction, not any facts. Society helps mold its children, so looking to their lives, families, etc., would have more value, in my opinion. Mental illness is bandied about far too casually with sometimes horrific results. It's too easy to see them as "others", divorce ourselves from their actions, by labeling them. This was horrific; my impulse would be to try them as adults, too, but I don't begin to know enough about the people in question to feel I have the right to say that. And yes, it's all over the news here, too. It's sickening, period.
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:06 AM
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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:13 AM
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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:59 AM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Black on black crime is pretty common actually. As for the bias, ONCE AGAIN, I don't see how Gabby Giffords shooter or Colorado shooting OR THIS have anything to do with race.
Quote: Zimmerman does but it shouldn't have.
Quote: Why are you still so pissed off about that, anyway?
Quote: I mean do you think that pointing out that these teenagers in Oklahoma are black will somehow prove that a black teenager in Florida was also a violent offender? When that question doesn't matter anymore because the teenager is dead and Zimmerman walked? What is even the relevance?
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Obviously from this day forward Rap will insist Trayvon attacked Zimmerman.
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:34 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:35 AM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:48 AM
WHOZIT
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: This could be about race if the teenagers who shot Chris Lane did so because he was white, but there are no suggestions of that, only that they were bored and had guns. So there is really nothing to compare this to the Zimmerman case, except Rap clutching at straws.
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Something tells me Rappy ain't actually seen mugshots of the suspects here if he's making it a race issue... Just sayin. -F
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:11 PM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:19 PM
Quote:Well, let's see. Both Trayvon and the OK murderers glorified guns, rap music, and violence. I could do a side by side comparison of the 'selfies', if you really want to go there. But why bother. If you've made up your mind, then there's no point in me trying.
Quote:When that question doesn't matter anymore because the teenager is dead and Zimmerman walked?
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: This could be about race if the teenagers who shot Chris Lane did so because he was white, but there are no suggestions of that, only that they were bored and had guns.
Quote: So there is really nothing to compare this to the Zimmerman case, except Rap clutching at straws.
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:01 PM
Quote:It appears we have finally reached a point where dead horses and dead black people have become interchangeable in terms of hammering an issue ad nauseum.
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:07 PM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:16 PM
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2:
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:00 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:As evidence of "rape mentality"... Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM Originally posted by AURaptor: The term applies.
Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:16 AM
Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:03 AM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The federal welfare state is what has been destroying the family for 5 decades. It's no wonder kids are growing up, so bored they feel the need to kill someone, just for a break in the monotony. The sickness isn't w/ the guns. It's with the people.
Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:37 AM
Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:46 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And yet, a segment of society kills far more often all others. Why is that ?
Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:49 AM
Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:11 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: I think the problem is that those kids might be psychopaths. I predict about an 80% probability. Maybe 85%. No more than 90 though. Do Psychopaths generally congregate in groups?
Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:19 AM
Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The two " bored teens " , charged w/ the murder - Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall [/quote I'mma confused... There were 3 teens charged. How come you keep focusing on these 2?
Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:51 AM
Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:56 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Glad you're so giddy over the death of the Aussie, Niki.
Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Because they are the most obviously Black. Besides, the "half white" kid was only the driver...so being only half black, that's okay...I guess...? Oh, wait a minute, only one of them pulled the trigger, so the other Black kid just sat in the car. Doesn't that make the "half black" kid more culpable...but then he's only half black...soooo...but "half black" is still Black... Oh, shit, I give up. Who can follow the contortions?
Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Frem, just say this headline over on CNN.com Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s Murder http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/?hpt=hp_t5 It does seem like we were supposed to ignore it in the Zimmerman/Martin case, but keep it front and center here.
Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: I'mma confused... There were 3 teens charged. How come you keep focusing on these 2?
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