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"A few more storms like Typhoon Haiyan may finally make our leaders act on climate change"
Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:19 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:By some early measures, Typhoon Haiyan — which ripped through the Philippines and claimed thousands of lives — is one of the strongest storms on record to make landfall ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/11/07/super-typhoon-haiyan-closes-in-on-philippines-among-strongest-storms-ever/). But mega-storms like Haiyan and Hurricane Sandy are just one of the many warnings that we are flying toward climate disaster. In the past couple of years, the United States has experienced the worst East Coast flooding in decades, as well as the most intense and largest drought in decades; 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/warmest-year-on-record-in-us-almost-assured/2012/12/06/301aff3c-3fdd-11e2-bca3-aadc9b7e29c5_blog.html). Massive forest fires have blazed throughout the drought-ridden West. Globally, the number of weather-related catastrophes has roughly doubled since 1980 ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/warmest-year-on-record-in-us-almost-assured/2012/12/06/301aff3c-3fdd-11e2-bca3-aadc9b7e29c5_blog.html). There is more bad news to come: rising sea levels, more-acidic oceans and more climate-related disasters. Through all of this, Congress sits supine. And it’s no mystery why: The oil and gas industry has spent about $1.5 billion on registered lobbying in the past 15 years ( http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?showYear=a&indexType=i) and hundreds of millions ( http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/industries.php?cycle=All) on federal campaign contributions. This industry largesse has helped bury climate-change information and policies, while the United States and the world suffer ever more disasters. Yet this paralysis could end soon — just a few more big storms, droughts and heat waves are likely to trump the oil industry’s big bucks. The lobbyists’ main talking point — that controlling climate change would wreck the economy — is designed to foster confusion and inaction. After each catastrophe, we are told there is no proof that the particular disaster was caused by human-made climate change. And that’s true enough. Nature is variable. But it’s also true that the frequency and severity of weather-related disasters are on the rise. Just as smoking causes lung cancer but not every case of it, human-induced climate change leads to more weather-related disasters but does not cause every one. Imagine if the pilot on your next flight were to use the same logic as the oil industry and its congressional stalwarts. Just before takeoff, he announces that several alarm signals show that the engines are dangerously overheated. But, he adds, we’ll take off anyway because the signals are often false alarms. By the end of the announcement, you and the other passengers would be rushing for the exits, if not storming the cockpit. So too will the American people eventually react, and probably much sooner than our leaders realize. Americans are not as obtuse as the oil industry hopes, despite the misinformation the lobbyists shovel at us. In a climate survey last month, the Pew Research Center found that 67 percent of Americans ( http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/9-26-13%20Energy%20Release.pdf) believe that there is “solid evidence the earth is warming.” And of that strong majority, around two-thirds attributed the warming “mostly” to human activity rather than natural causes, in line with the scientific consensus. By a wide margin in another recent poll ( http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/9-26-13%20Energy%20Release.pdf) — 58 percent to 34 percent — Americans favored developing alternative energy sources such as wind, solar and hydrogen technology over expanding oil, coal and natural gas exploration and production. Environmental catastrophes have a nasty way of overturning the political order. The Soviets learned this with the Chernobyl nuclear meltdown in 1986. George W. Bush learned it when he failed to respond effectively to Hurricane Katrina. Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad learned it when severe droughts hit their countries in recent years, leading to soaring food prices that stoked unrest. Mitt Romney learned it when Hurricane Sandy pushed Chris Christie into the arms of President Obama. And China’s leaders are learning it today, as the public recoils from the severely polluted air and water. I predict that America’s next political movement will not be a tea party but an environmental revolt. Another spate of catastrophes, perhaps a mix of extreme drought, storms and heat waves — all to be dreaded but, alas, to be expected — could provide the tipping point. Americans already sense that the oil, coal and gas industries are threats, not saviors. Yes, we will need oil and gas for some time to come — coal should certainly be the first to go — but public opinion already backs low-carbon energy. With a strategy for developing these alternatives, America could produce and use energy far more cleanly, safely and efficiently, without threatening the planet. And so, too, could the rest of the world. We will continue for a while longer, no doubt, in our lobbyist-induced paralysis. Many more communities around the world are likely to bury their dead in the wake of extraordinary floods, famines and storms. And then, finally, we will awaken to the new realities. Americans will support leaders with the vision and plans to create a safe and responsible energy system, who offer a credible road map for rolling out low-carbon energy technologies that are cost-effective and will improve our safety and quality of life. Close to the 50th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination, let’s remember that he called on America to go to the moon and undertake other space ventures “not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-few-more-storms-like-typhoon-haiyan-may-finally-make-our-leaders-act-on-climate-change/2013/11/15/f1b5baa0-4c94-11e3-be6b-d3d28122e6d4_story.html
Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:49 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:China is INCREASING CO2 emissions by around 250 million metric tons a year. The U.S. has TOTAL CO2 emissions of around 1.5 billion metric tons a year. Even if the U.S. disappeared and its CO2 emissions went to zero, just the Chinese INCREASE would make up that 1.5 billion metric tons IN SIX YEARS. You can check the figures on the Preliminary 2011 Global & National Estimates spreadsheet linked here. http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/emis/meth_reg.html
Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:14 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:We're not in the driver's seat concerning emissions any more.
Quote:... the island was home to many species of trees, including at least three species which grew up to 50 feet or more..., as well as at least six species of native land birds. Barbara A. West wrote, "Sometime before the arrival of Europeans on Easter Island, the Rapanui experienced a tremendous upheaval in their social system brought about by a change in their island's ecology... By the time of European arrival in 1722, the island's population had dropped to 2,000–3,000 from a high of approximately 15,000 just a century earlier." By that time, 21 species of trees and all species of land birds went extinct through some combination of overharvesting/overhunting, rat predation, and climate change. The island was largely deforested, and it did not have any trees more than 10 feet tall. ... residents were no longer able to build seaworthy vessels, significantly diminishing their fishing abilities.
Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:32 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:41 AM
Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno what? Let's screw Venezuela and Saudi Arabia: Let's conserve our oil and stop paying them for it.
Monday, November 18, 2013 9:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: As a libertarian, you do not have an answer to this problem, which is called "the problem of the commons".
Quote:So, what is your answer to global climate shift? Do you have one?
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