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Republican wins crucial Florida Congressional race

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:41 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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A Florida Republican has won a much-coveted congressional race which is being seen as an important test ahead of this year's US midterm elections.

David Jolly narrowly fought off a well-funded campaign by Democrat Alex Sink in the Tampa-area vote.

Mr Jolly had railed against the Obama healthcare law, suggesting it will be a major issue in November's elections.

High-profile politicians, including Bill Clinton and Paul Ryan, stumped for the candidates before Tuesday's poll.

'Obamacare' issue

Mr Jolly - who took 48.5% of the vote - will replace long-serving Republican Congressman CW Bill Young, who died of cancer in October.

The special election was held in the congressional district where US President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul was first tested.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act has since been plagued by technical glitches and sluggish enrolment numbers, resulting in a glut of bad press for the US leader and fellow Democrats.

Mr Jolly, 41, campaigned on repealing the healthcare law - nicknamed Obamacare - while Ms Sink, 65, pledged to "keep what's right and fix what's wrong" with the legislation.

The battle for the 13th District seat was viewed largely as a precursor to the forthcoming national fight over which political party will control Congress for the final two years of Mr Obama's presidency.

The House of Representatives is expected to remain under Republican control, but only a six-seat swing in the Senate is required to wrestle control from the Democrats.

Mr Jolly's win means Republicans now hold a 233-199 seat advantage in the House of Representatives.

More than $11m (£6.6m) in campaign funds were pumped into the Florida race for adverts, phone calls and mailings.

"I have very good news tonight," Mr Jolly joked to his supporters in his victory speech on Tuesday evening. "No more commercials."



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26548939

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:40 PM

JONGSSTRAW


It was a nice surprise win for the unknown and vastly outspent Republican, but "crucial"? I don't think so. This special election is only for 8 months, and the voter turnout was a fraction of what it will be in November. Both sides seem to be able to find something in the results to pound their chests about, but I don't think it means very much either way in terms of predicting the future. Otoh, a win is better than a loss, especially in Florida.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:45 PM

WHOZIT


He was an awful campaigner, he was out spent 4-1, Bill (The Rapist) Clinton came in to campaign for the Democrat and he still won. Why do I have a feeling that some seats the Dems think are safe are now not so safe.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Whoozie - the Dems are scared itless over this outcome. There's no denying it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:58 PM

REAVERFAN


Strange that outside groups outspent him going into the last week by a million.

The phony attack ads worked, and the R barely beat the D in a strongly Repub district.

It's not his "ideas" that scare me. He has none of his own. It's the money the Kochs spend to buy seats. They have lots of ideas, and they're all good for them and bad for us peons.

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:25 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Strange that outside groups outspent him going into the last week by a million.



But still less than the Democrats spent.

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The phony attack ads worked, and the R barely beat the D in a strongly Repub district.


That gave Obama the majority in the 2012 election.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:34 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Whoozie - the Dems are scared itless over this outcome. There's no denying it.



Looks like that election is a bigger deal than I gave it credit. MSNBC's Chris 'Obamagasm' Matthews showed the Dem. fear today on Morning Joe when he said this:

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“It’s going to be very hard to hold the Senate. I think the Senate goes. I think we heard from the Ghost of Christmas Future this week. They’re going to lose the Senate.”




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Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:34 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The thrill (running up his leg) is gone

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Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:52 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by reaverfan:

Strange that outside groups outspent him going into the last week by a million.



FYI, the Democrat candidate was a woman. Her name is Adelaide Alexander "Alex" Sink. She ran for Fla. Governor in 2010 and lost to Republican Rick Scott. Better luck next time.

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Friday, March 14, 2014 12:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Strange that outside groups outspent him going into the last week by a million.



Yes, Dem outside groups ( Soros ? ) DID outspend the Republican. And he still won.

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The phony attack ads worked, and the R barely beat the D in a strongly Repub district.



How is a district which voted for Obama 2 x's "strongly Repub " ?? Please, explain.

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It's not his "ideas" that scare me. He has none of his own. It's the money the Kochs spend to buy seats. They have lots of ideas, and they're all good for them and bad for us peons.



Glad you think of yourself as a peon.

And funny that you never seen to have any qualms about Leftist outside $ ( George Soros, ACORN, Unions, etc... ) but are ever so concerned bout the " un-American " Koch brothers.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 14, 2014 3:04 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.sayfiereview.com/page/Who%20and%20Where%20are%20Floridas%20
Democrats%20and%20Republicans


The Tampa area (I-4 corridor) is demographically split



republican Bill Young previously held the seat from 1971 to 2013 (for anyone counting, it's more years than the fingers of both hands), when he died of cancer

there was no mention of turnout, but it was probably low, meaning that people looking for change probably dominated the election

Florida has NOT expanded Medicaid, a tactic used by republican-controlled states to make Obamacare unpopular

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Friday, March 14, 2014 5:50 AM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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And funny that you never seen to have any qualms about Leftist outside $ ( George Soros, ACORN, Unions, etc... ) but are ever so concerned bout the " un-American " Koch brothers.

You missed the point, and missed what the Kochs are up to, but that's to be expected. The Citizens United decision was a gift given to them, wrapped in a bow, by the neocon Supremes. It let them buy elections.

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Friday, March 14, 2014 8:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by reaverfan:You missed the point, and missed what the Kochs are up to, but that's to be expected. The Citizens United decision was a gift given to them, wrapped in a bow, by the neocon Supremes. It let them buy elections.


Explain it why Koch $ is bad, and Soros $ isn't.

Go.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 14, 2014 10:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle---koch-bro
thers.html


Political Action Committee Spending (1989 to 2010)

Koch Industries: $5,938,993 (83 percent going to Republicans)
Soros Fund Management: $0


527 Group Contributions (2001 to 2010)

Koch Industries: $574,998
Soros Fund Management: $0


Lobbying Expenditures (1998 to 2010)

Koch Industries: $50,972,700
Soros Fund Magt: $12,790,000


Individual donations to federal candidates, parties and political action committees (1989 to 2010)

Koch Brothers: $2.58 million
George Soros: $1.74 million


Individual donations to 527 organizations (2001 to 2010)

George Soros: $32.5 million
Koch Brothers: $1.5 million


SCORE:
Koch Brothers: $62 million
George Soros: $47 million


The Koch Brothers spend 50% more than Soros. That we can discuss which rich people spend more or less tens of millions than other rich people: priceless.

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