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Aleppo "rebels" protest 24-hour cease fire. Really.

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Friday, October 21, 2016 7:12 AM

SIGNYM

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I just had to put this in its own thread, because it deserves more than passing notice. This is from the "rebels" themselves

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Moscow extends Aleppo ceasefire by 24 hours as rebels say ‘we will not accept any Russian conditions’
Oct. 20, 2016

AMMAN: The Russian Ministry of Defense extended a temporary pause in the bombing of rebel-held east Aleppo Thursday evening after a day of pro-opposition protests denouncing the unilateral ceasefire along with sporadic gunfire and shelling within the city.

Moscow extended what it called a “humanitarian truce” by 24 hours at 5pm Damascus time on Thursday, two hours before the first 11-hour truce was set to expire, Syrian state news agency SANA reported. Armed rebel groups in east Aleppo, meanwhile, continue to reject the ceasefire.

“We will not accept any conditions that Russia—an occupying country—is trying to impose on the opposition… including a Russian-proposed humanitarian ceasefire,” Al-Farooq Ahrar, a rebel commander with Ahrar a-Sham in east Aleppo, told Syria Direct on Thursday.

“We’re preparing to begin a battle to break the siege of Aleppo.”

There were no airstrikes in east Aleppo on Thursday, although sporadic gunfire and rocket attacks were reported along the frontline that divides Syria’s largest city. Syrian state media claimed rebel shelling the same day had killed one civilian in government-held west Aleppo.



As part of the ceasefire, the regime opened humanitarian corridors for any families fleeing the city, people requiring urgent medical care and any rebel looking to surrender, according to SANA. The Syrian Arab Army dropped fliers over encircled east Aleppo city Thursday morning, indicating eight corridors leading out of rebel-held neighborhoods.

Pro-regime and pro-opposition accounts of Thursday’s events diverged sharply. SANA reported that “terrorist organizations” fired rockets on a corridor near the Bustan al-Qasr neighborhood

Of which there is direct video

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north of the city’s ancient citadel. Meanwhile, three residents of east Aleppo told Syria Direct that regime snipers fired on civilians in the same area.

Bustan al-Qasr has witnessed intense fighting between rebels and government troops in recent weeks.

“We’re telling residents to get as far away from the Bustan al-Qasr area as possible for their own safety,” Ibrahim Abu al-Layth, a spokesman for the Aleppo Civil Defense, told Syria Direct early Thursday afternoon. “In addition to sniper fire, the regime is shooting on the crossing with heavy automatic fire.”

Syria Direct could not independently verify the claim of regime snipers.


More at http://syriadirect.org/news/moscow-extends-aleppo-ceasefire-by-24-hour
s-as-rebels-say-%E2%80%98we-will-not-accept-any-russian-conditions%E2%80%99
/

Now, these are the same people who

.... rejected a UN initiative to evacuate Aleppo
http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/20-october-rebels-and-syriancoaliti
on-issue-joint-statement


.... rejected a UN-aid convoy in September because it would have come in on Castello Road, which would have ceded control of that important highway to the Syrian government
http://syriadirect.org/news/which-road-to-aleppo-opposition-refuses-ai
d-delivery-via-castello-road
/

... and who apparently burned up the second UN aid convoy, which was widely blamed on Russian airstrikes but the cause is not accepted by the UN, which has established an enquiry.

Their actions look more like "holding civilians hostage" than anything else. They would rather that people in Aleppo suffer and die, martyring them for "the cause" and using their deaths to gain international sympathy.


There are some interesting things to note about the picture, but I'll leave that to you first.



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Friday, October 21, 2016 9:11 AM

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"Protest" - no. Reject, yes.

A ceasefire is 2-sided. The rebels are saying they are not going to abide by it, and will carry on fighting. The context to this of course is Russia's history of negotiating ceasefires and then breaking them to take advantage of the element of surprise, or simply using them to prepare for big offensives.

Russia can "pause" bombing if it wants, and even call it a "humanitarian pause", but the reality, as the rebels know, is that they are preparing for their most intense bombardment and attack on the city yet.


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Friday, October 21, 2016 10:13 AM

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While the US aided Iraqi army is destroying ISIS, Russia and the Syrian Government bomb helpless civilians. Well done!



On the money and to the point G. Again we witness SIG posting on and on about something that can be summed up in a sentence. And again the facts show just how wrong headed she is.

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Friday, October 21, 2016 10:32 AM

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SO, how to explain the fact that the so-called "rebels" rejected UN aid and UN-evacuation of civilians? Could it be that they don't have the civilians' best interests at heart?

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Originally posted by kpo:
"Protest" - no. Reject, yes.

A ceasefire is 2-sided.

No. This was well-understood to be a unilateral humanitarian cease-fire.

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The rebels are saying they are not going to abide by it, and will carry on fighting.

No. What they are saying is that they're not going to evacuate - and it may mean that they're not going to allow CIVILIANS to evacuate - during the cease-fire.

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The context to this of course is Russia's history of negotiating ceasefires and then breaking them
Such as? Examples? During the last Syrian cease-fire, it was widely understood that

(1) ISIL and al Nusra (al Qaida, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham = "Front for the conquest of Syria") as recognized terrorist groups, were NOT part of the cease-fire, AND

(2) The so-called "Free Syrian Army" and other "moderate rebels" were supposed to separate themselves from the "Army of the Conquest of Syria" and ISIL, and provide their coordinates to ceasefire monitors (which included USA reps) so that they could remain unharmed. THEY CHOSE not to separate out from known terrorist organizations, and were thus subject to the same bombardment.

However, during that time the FSA and the various terrorist organizations also re-grouped and re-armed (with USA weapons).

The FSA, by choice, apparently does not separate itself physically and ideologically from foreign terrorist groups, so ...

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to take advantage of the element of surprise, or simply using them to prepare for big offensives.
Uh huh

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Russia can "pause" bombing if it wants, and even call it a "humanitarian pause", but the reality, as the rebels know, is that they are preparing for their most intense bombardment and attack on the city yet.
Of course they are. What, this is a surprise? You're outraged over it? This is a war. The terrorists have tanks, they have TOW (wire-guided) missiles. They have 50 mm machine guns and mortars and artillery (Hmmm, where did they get those from, again?)

The problem seems to be that civilians aren't leaving, or aren't allowed to leave. The best description for their situation that I can think of is "hostages". This was addressed by one of our Senators, who described the USA liberation of Berlin: it wasn't pretty.

So just OOC did you notice anything unusual in the picture?





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Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:38 AM

SIGNYM

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Well, now we know why civilians aren't leaving east Aleppo:

No one allowed to leave: Militants shell East Aleppo exit route as humanitarian pause ends
https://www.rt.com/news/363782-east-aleppo-militants-block-civilians/

Geolocation of Smoke Plumes and Falling Mortars
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2016/10/22/exit-corridor-shelling-west
-aleppo-open-source-analysis
/

RT and Bellingcat agree, so it's probably true.

Video of exit route being shelled by so-called "rebels"



The REAL war crimes are being committed by the so-called "rebels".

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Now I wanted to say something about the picture that I posted, of the demonstration against the unilateral humanitarian ceasefire.

Supposedly, people of east Aleppo are "starving". Do these look like "starving" people to you?

I dunno- to me they look pretty well-fed and energetic. And, where did they get all of those nice clean FLAGS?

Either east Aleppo isn't in as dire straits as the so-called "rebels" would have you believe, or -more likely- the so-called "rebels" are commandeering the food for themselves and their supporters. After all, they're clearly being supplied by somebody outside east Aleppo ... you don't get that much fabric and hand-stitch those kinds of flags in a dark basement while you're starving.



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Monday, October 24, 2016 10:16 AM

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Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Monday, October 24, 2016 10:38 AM

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Cartoon



If you were half as intelligent as you try and have us believe you would realize the sadness and Truth in that cartoon. But it's not the truth you think it is - much, much different.



Yeah but she's not G. Intelligence and trolling do not mix. It's why nothing she posts is intelligent. It can't be if it's always factually wrong and wrong headed.

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Monday, October 24, 2016 10:43 AM

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Yeah but she's not G.
Thank god! Far as I can tell, he's just a "low information liberal"!

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Intelligence and trolling do not mix.
True, but not in the way you think.

Just OOC guys, do you have anything INTELLIGENT to say on the topic? Or are you just going to keep on launching stupid and pointless attacks?

Haters gonna hate, but thanks for the bump!

Oh, and BTW ... how about defining intelligence (below)?



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Monday, October 24, 2016 11:26 AM

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Oh, and BTW ... do you have anything intelligent to say about intelligence? Or are you just going to keep on launching stupid and pointless attacks?
Well yes, as a matter of fact, I do. But since you aren't prepared to discuss the topic (even though YOU were the one who brought up "intelligence" as one of the key differences between Republicans and Democrats) I'm not going to even try.

And are you sure you want to bring up the topic of "personal attacks"? I'd be happy to quote you from this thread, as I did in another below. So you might want to - yanno- edit out some all of your posts. Just in case.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60199

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This is your [G's] entire, hate-filled, TROLLING "contribution" to this thread:

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Those early Soviet Kikis always were a bit twitchy.

I *admire* how you are able to lie for yourself AND other people. You really should run for office. Seriously, there's enough stupid people who would listen to your noise that you could get elected to just about anything. 'Course, then you'd find out how you had absolutely no clue what you were talking about before hand. No worries! You'll just lie to yourself about that as well.

No it isn't. I've listed your lies before, so you saying I haven't is also a lie. Funny.

I really don't have to show anyone anything. There are maybe 20 people here and I'm guessing that like this election, they've already made their mind up about you and me and anyone else posting.

Curious - Why are you so happy for a bump for a thread where you look so bad? Kremlin still counting your posts? Is that what matters to you the most, Bump over Truth?
But of course, in every post in every thread. She is a duty bound foot soldier.

Her being "okay with secession" is the spin from Commie HQ re: Crimea. "They wanted to be invaded, er, I mean freed."

If anything T. I take some comfort in the fact that our Commies are such obvious Dummies.
Yeah, that was soundly debunked by you many times. You are the queen of not knowing what a discussion is or being able to have one. Seriously - 2 years, you should have learned something about yourself.

SIG thinks we should receive her lies and subjective posts as factual, instead of as bullshit from notorious sources.




100% trolling and personal attacks from you. So thanks for expressing exposing yourself. And, of course, haters are gonna hate, but - as always - thanks for the bump!




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Monday, October 24, 2016 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Oh, and BTW ... do you have anything intelligent to say about intelligence? Or are you just going to keep on launching stupid and pointless attacks?
Well yes, as a matter of fact, I do. But since you aren't prepared to discuss the topic (even though YOU were the one who brought up "intelligence" as one of the key differences between Republicans and Democrats) I'm not going to even try.

And are you sure you want to bring up the topic of "personal attacks"? I'd be happy to quote you from this thread, as I did in another below. So you might want to - yanno- edit out some all of your posts. Just in case.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60199

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This is your [G's] entire, hate-filled, TROLLING "contribution" to this thread:

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Those early Soviet Kikis always were a bit twitchy.

I *admire* how you are able to lie for yourself AND other people. You really should run for office. Seriously, there's enough stupid people who would listen to your noise that you could get elected to just about anything. 'Course, then you'd find out how you had absolutely no clue what you were talking about before hand. No worries! You'll just lie to yourself about that as well.

No it isn't. I've listed your lies before, so you saying I haven't is also a lie. Funny.

I really don't have to show anyone anything. There are maybe 20 people here and I'm guessing that like this election, they've already made their mind up about you and me and anyone else posting.

Curious - Why are you so happy for a bump for a thread where you look so bad? Kremlin still counting your posts? Is that what matters to you the most, Bump over Truth?
But of course, in every post in every thread. She is a duty bound foot soldier.

Her being "okay with secession" is the spin from Commie HQ re: Crimea. "They wanted to be invaded, er, I mean freed."

If anything T. I take some comfort in the fact that our Commies are such obvious Dummies.
Yeah, that was soundly debunked by you many times. You are the queen of not knowing what a discussion is or being able to have one. Seriously - 2 years, you should have learned something about yourself.

SIG thinks we should receive her lies and subjective posts as factual, instead of as bullshit from notorious sources.




100% trolling and personal attacks from you. So thanks for expressing exposing yourself. And, of course, haters are gonna hate, but - as always - thanks for the bump!




Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Proud of ya G. Although SIG has a problem separating what you post and what I do.

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Monday, October 24, 2016 1:07 PM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Supposedly, people of east Aleppo are "starving". Do these look like "starving" people to you?



You're so right - they need to be bombed some more.

The moment you post something intelligent we might be able to have a discussion.



I am growing old waiting for that.

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Monday, October 24, 2016 1:14 PM

SIGNYM

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Supposedly, people of east Aleppo are "starving". Do these look like "starving" people to you? = SIGNY

You're so right - they need to be bombed some more.
The moment you post something intelligent we might be able to have a discussion.= G



The moment you post something honest, it might be worth replying to. But yanno, it would kill you to be honest and on-topic wouldn't it? Because I have yet to see you post even one. (Oh, and BTW, please define the word "intelligence".) Here is the ENTIRE post:

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Now I wanted to say something about the picture that I posted, of the demonstration against the unilateral humanitarian ceasefire.
Supposedly, people of east Aleppo are "starving". Do these look like "starving" people to you?
I dunno- to me they look pretty well-fed and energetic. And, where did they get all of those nice clean FLAGS?
Either east Aleppo isn't in as dire straits as the so-called "rebels" would have you believe, or -more likely- the so-called "rebels" are commandeering the food for themselves and their supporters. After all, they're clearly being supplied by somebody outside east Aleppo ... you don't get that much fabric and hand-stitch those kinds of flags in a dark basement while you're starving.



So how about replying to my real point? Or is that too much for you?



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Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:59 AM

SIGNYM

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I took the picture from a pro-rebel website which is even funded by the USA.

If they posted an inaccurate picture and get hung with the results, that's their problem, not mine.




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Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Dilbert Creator Adams Exposes The Real Bully Party


And wow, don't I know it from this board!

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I’ve been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together. As far as I can tell, the most unifying characteristic is a willingness to bully in all its forms.

If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.
If you have a Trump bumper sticker, they will deface your car.
if you speak of Trump at work you could get fired.
On social media, almost every message I get from a Clinton supporter is a bullying type of message. They insult. They try to shame. They label. And obviously they threaten my livelihood.
We know from Project Veritas that Clinton supporters tried to incite violence at Trump rallies. The media downplays it.
We also know Clinton’s side hired paid trolls to bully online. You don’t hear much about that. Yesterday, by no coincidence, Huffington Post, Salon, and Daily Kos all published similar-sounding hit pieces on me, presumably to lower my influence. (That reason, plus jealousy, are the only reasons writers write about other writers.)
Joe Biden said he wanted to take Trump behind the bleachers and beat him up. No one on Clinton’s side disavowed that call to violence because, I assume, they consider it justified hyperbole.

Team Clinton has succeeded in perpetuating one of the greatest evils I have seen in my lifetime. Her side has branded Trump supporters (40%+ of voters) as Nazis, sexists, homophobes, racists, and a few other fighting words. Their argument is built on confirmation bias and persuasion. But facts don’t matter because facts never matter in politics. What matters is that Clinton’s framing of Trump provides moral cover for any bullying behavior online or in person. No one can be a bad person for opposing Hitler, right?

Some Trump supporters online have suggested that people who intend to vote for Trump should wear their Trump hats on election day. That is a dangerous idea, and I strongly discourage it. There would be riots in the streets because we already know the bullies would attack. But on election day, inviting those attacks is an extra-dangerous idea. Violence is bad on any day, but on election day, Republicans are far more likely to unholster in an effort to protect their voting rights. Things will get wet fast.

Yes, yes, I realize Trump supporters say bad things about Clinton supporters too. I don’t defend the bad apples on either side. I’ll just point out that Trump’s message is about uniting all Americans under one flag. The Clinton message is that some Americans are good people and the other 40% are some form of deplorables, deserving of shame, vandalism, punishing taxation, and violence. She has literally turned Americans on each other. It is hard for me to imagine a worse thing for a presidential candidate to do.

I’ll say that again.

As far as I can tell, the worst thing a presidential candidate can do is turn Americans against each other. Clinton is doing that, intentionally.

Intentionally.

As I often say, I don’t know who has the best policies. I don’t know the best way to fight ISIS and I don’t know how to fix healthcare or trade deals. I don’t know which tax policies are best to lift the economy. I don’t know the best way to handle any of that stuff. (And neither do you.) But I do have a bad reaction to bullies. And I’ve reached my limit.

I hope you have too. Therefore…

I endorse Donald Trump for President of the United States because I oppose bullying in all its forms.

I don’t defend Trump’s personal life. Neither Trump nor Clinton are role models for our children. Let’s call that a tie, at worst.

The bullies are welcome to drown in their own bile while those of us who want a better world do what we’ve been doing for hundreds of years: Work to make it better while others complain about how we’re doing it.

Today I put Trump’s odds of winning in a landslide back to 98%. Remember, I told you a few weeks ago that Trump couldn’t win unless “something changed.”

Something just changed.





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Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

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HOW THE WEST REPORTS ON EAST ALEPPO

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Hundreds of thousands have fled Aleppo or died from the violence. But many remain -- and not necessarily by choice.
About 1.5 million people

About 75% of the original population

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live in regime-held parts of Aleppo, according to the United Nations.

Govt= "regime"
Terrorists - "rebels"

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The part most devastated by airstrikes, rebel-held eastern Aleppo, has about 250,000-275,000 residents
Disputed figure. Up until just a few weeks ago, the terrorists allowed people to move across the no-man's land for food and medical care. Some estimated that there are as few as 20,000 civilians remaining in East Aleppo.

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who are trapped by government troops. There are "no ways to get out of this city. It's completely under siege,"

No mention of the eight humanitarian corridors arranged by the government, and how the "rebels" prevented civilians from using them.

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said Abdulraham Almawwas, vice president of the White Helmets, a [part-time ]civil defense volunteer group
... and part-time terrorist organization



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For those wounded by the airstrikes, medical care is hard to come by. Roughly 30 doctors remain in the eastern part of the city -- about 1 doctor for every 10,000 people, said Adham Sahloul, spokesman for the Syrian American Medical Society.
Life in rebel-held Aleppo: 'It is horrifying'

In the eastern neighborhood of Al-Shaar, Mohammed spends much of his day searching for food to feed his wife, mother and 2-year-old son.

"There is some bread in Aleppo, but you have to search well to find it," said the 29-year-old, whom CNN is not identifying for safety reasons.

The government siege around rebel-held Aleppo has choked off the supply of food, fuel and other daily necessities.

No mention of how the "rebels" refused a UN aid convoy in September because it would have come along Castello Road. No mention of how another UN aid convoy was struck and destroyed by parties unknown while in "rebel"-held territory.

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The regime has used this tactic -- dubbed "Starve or Surrender" -- before, including in the opposition stronghold of Homs. That city suffered mass starvation.

Mohammed, the young father, says every day is a struggle for survival.

"Basically, my whole daylight is just me trying to find stuff," he said. And when he does find food, "it is insanely expensive," describing prices 50 times higher than they were six years ago. Mohammed declined to describe his job, saying it would likely identify him. But he says business is almost nonexistent.

ANd yet, according to the "rebels", the people of East Aleppo have enough food and energy and shiny news flags with which to demonstrate AGAINST a cease fire!

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"Now I don't have any more work to do, so I am living on some savings," he said.
The Aleppo native said he wishes he left before the government siege began.

Why didn't he?

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"The regime has been bombarding the city over the last three years. It's very, very hard to live here," he said. "The new (bunker-buster) missiles are horrible. I can't stand living here anymore. It is a nightmare."
Because the "rebels" have dug in, and -like many places in the mideast, are using tunnels and basements as operations-centers.

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Mohammed said he doesn't have the money to leave.
But he has enough to buy food which is 50X more expensive?

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"I can't afford to go to Turkey with my wife, son and mother. It would cost me around $8,000 -- at least -- just to get to Turkey," he said.
He doesn't have to go to Turkey, he COULD just go to western Aleppo where there is food and medical care. Unless he would feel... yanno ... unwelcome because of his support for Muslism extremism.

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"And then I don't even have any idea what can happen next, and if I will be able to work."

Mohammed said if he's able to escape, he'd like to go to a rebel-held part of the Aleppo countryside. "I don't trust the regime," he said. "They would arrest me for sure."

Yes, that's probably his problem. No wonder he doesn't want to be identified!

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Life in regime-held Aleppo: 'We are being shelled regularly' Even parts of western Aleppo are under attack.

Salam, a 35-year-old mother of two, says she has to tread carefully when walking her son to school.

"It is not safe. We are being shelled regularly by the opposition with mortars," said Salam, whom CNN is not identifying for safety reasons.

"When I take my kid to school, we try to walk under the balconies and try to stay away from open areas. We don't walk in open streets. And we try to reduce the time we spend out of our home as much as possible."

Why she stays:
Like Mohammed, Salam was born in Aleppo. But unlike Mohammed, she actually wants to stay.
Salam is luckier than many of the residents living on the other side of Aleppo. She still has a workplace and job, teaching French at the same school her son attends.

"If the situation stayed like this security-wise, I think I will stay, because I don't want to live in a tent. Also, I don't want to be very poor and not be able to pay rent and bills," she said.

"We also don't want to lose the house. We worked for years to buy it."

The Syrian regime recently released a tourism video promoting Aleppo. The panoramic views of government-held parts were accompanied by an acoustic version of the theme music to the HBO television series "Game of Thrones."

Some may find the "Game of Thrones" music an odd choice, since the show's fictional world of Westeros is a violent place engaged in its own bloody civil war.

The aerial shots feature wide, green streets and swimming pools.

And last month, Syrian state-run media mocked the notion that Aleppo was one of the "world's most dangerous" cities, tweeting a video of locals enjoying the city's "thriving nightlife."

Locals discovered they can heat the plastic from broken chairs and pipes in a boiler and turn it into fuel, CNN affiliate RFE/RL'S Radio Farda reported.

"We can't explain it exactly, but if the waste plastic is from good material, the output of this process is gasoline," one man said. "If the plastic quality isn't good, the end product is diesel."

But that's just one temporary fix. If Aleppo doesn't survive past December -- as de Mistura portended could happen -- the crisis may get even more catastrophic.

Oh, they mean that the Muslim extremists might get rounded up. Yes, I know - how sad.

Quote:

That's why Mohammed wishes he could leave, like the millions of refugees who have managed to escape.
So are they trying to say that the millions who have left already are Muslim fanatics who want to impose Sunni Sharia law on everybody?




Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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The Russian navy heads to Syria to join in the fight. Hope it doesn't sink on the way there.



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Dating back to the 1930's, America's CIA programs have created ISIS, and Al'Queda before them and..... well....

(Ask PirateNews about this one. It's for real, and I bet he can show you pics of Osama Bin Laden when he was one of the "Good Guys!")

WE HAVE FUCKING CREATED EVERY INSANE RELIGIOUS LEADER IN THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE THE DAWN OF MODERN TIMES!!!

Not only that, but we have removed every Democratic Republic that was trying to mirror the US. And it was ALL ABOUT OIL.

I have no quarrel with Russia. In a world that has let extremists into their borders by the 10's of thousands EVERYWHERE ELSE in the world, ask me how many Muslims are cooking up trouble in Moscow now.

Tick, Tick, Tick....

No Boom.

Because there aren't any. ZERO. They aren't allowed.

Russia is only backing Syria now because they are one of the Secular strongholds left in the Middle East that aren't completly wacko Jihadist. And they're right in Russia's Back Door.


WE. I REPEAT, WE. LET ME REPEAT THAT AGAIN WE.... AS IN US, THE US, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAVE BEEN FUCKING WITH THESE PEOPLE FOR LONGER THAN MOST OF OUR GRANDPARENTS HAVE LIVED!

They don't hate us because of "our Freedom". They once strived for our freedom. When their Democraticlly elected leaders wouldn't allow us to come in and take over their oil industry, we had them killed and put in leaders that would allow it.

I believe up until the 60s at the latest, Islam was a peaceful nation.

If you took the Bible and the Queran back to back, it's probably very similar the amount of things that could be taken as scripture and a call to war.

If Islam was EVIL the whole time, they would have taken over decades or even hundreds of years ago.

WE made them that way.

And without any secular leadership to guide them. With nothing but millions of poor people with nothing but sand up their ass cracks, is it any wonder why they were so easy to sway into becoming mindless Jihadists for their own version of a very similar Bible?


It's beyond making peace.

It's too late for that.

We've made at least 2 generations of monsters.

We need to make them all go back to where they came from and work it out amongst themselves. And MORE IMPORTANTLY STOP FUCKING WITH THEIR LIVES!!!!!

They're like rabid fucking animals now. They beat and rape white women all across the European Union because they know they can get away with it. Because everyone is too fucking PC to do anything about it.



And true to my word, I'd like to back this up with one of the biggest Alex Jones Polar Opposites....



Watch this Thiggri.

Maybe you can remember what it was like to be a True Liberal and understand why Michael Moore isn't leaving you. He's standing his solid ground. It's you that fucking left.

I never had an ounce of respect for him even back in the day. But that was because he was exactly who he is now, and even though I hated Bush he seemed way too far to the Left for me.

He is exactly the same as he ever was. You're choosing Hillary over Michael Moore.

I feel like I have grown. My mind has expanded.

I've never been a Rethug, but I've never hidden the fact that I lean Right.

I don't know much of Michael Moore's politics outside of this video, but I have probably watched 20 hours of Jimmy Dore in the last 2 months. He's brilliant. He's a true Leftist. He's a TRUE Progressive.

Even when I hate what he's saying, at the end of the day I agree with 80-90% of what he says.




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