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Democrats eyeing 2018 say it's time to start talking Russia

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Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:47 AM

THGRRI


"It will be on the evening news all the time," said Jentleson,

Jentleson and others argue that ongoing developments in the investigation force the party's hand. The news, not the candidates themselves, often determines what campaigns are about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-eyeing-2018-say-its-
time-to-start-talking-russia/ar-AAuflwn?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp



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Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It's time to START??

HAHAHAHA!

They've been talking about nothing but Russia!!! since Nov 2016!

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Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:46 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's time to START??

HAHAHAHA!

They've been talking about nothing butRussia!!! ever since Nov 2016!



There's a difference in responding to and investigating what is going on concerning the Russians, and the message the democrats will run on. This is about them being forced to consider Running on what Russia has done instead of running with a different message, like jobs.

It doesn't surprise me you don't understand the thread.







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Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It doesn't surprise me that you posted something that counterfactual.

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Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:12 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It doesn't surprise me that you posted something that counterfactual.




Relating to or expressing what has not happened or is not the case is what counterfactual means. What I posted is that the Democrats are debating it.

So what's your point? That I'm smart, thanks.








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Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


That you regurgitated without thought DNC propagnada that they are going to "start" talking about Russia (that alone should be enough to get anybody to spew coffee over their keyboard) and that this somehow "forces" them not to talk about economic issues.

But, yanno, if you want to go over a cliff and persuade as many Americans as possible to go over the cliff with you ... well, I guess you get what you all deserve. Too bad I'm living with you.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2017 8:11 PM

THGRRI


Not concerned with what you think comrade.




Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That you regurgitated without thought DNC propagnada that they are going to "start" talking about Russia (that alone should be enough to get anybody to spew coffee over their keyboard) and that this somehow "forces" them not to talk about economic issues.

But, yanno, if you want to go over a cliff and persuade as many Americans as possible to go over the cliff with you ... well, I guess you get what you all deserve. Too bad I'm living with you.

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Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


What DID Russia do, exactly? Spend a total of 0.004% of total ad revenue on ads not necessarily related to the campaign? Spend on ads that reached fewer than a couple hundred million people each when the average American sees as many as 5,000 ads per day?

omg

the horror

granny, get 'yer guns

they're everywhere

really




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Friday, November 3, 2017 11:38 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
What DID Russia do, exactly? Spend a total of 0.004% of total ad revenue on ads not necessarily related to the campaign? Spend on ads that reached fewer than a couple hundred million people each when the average American sees as many as 5,000 ads per day?

omg

the horror

granny, get 'yer guns

they're everywhere

really




Every once in a while I like to remind readers how you kiki and SIG always, I'll say that again, ALWAYS, defend Russia. It's a constant with you two comrades and all the evidence we need to prove you troll America on their behalf.






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Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Weren't we investigating Russia since the Golden Shower incident?

Jeebers...

Throw a little bit of North Korea missile scares and Rapey Weinsten scandals in the mix and we've already forgotten that Russia is a thing.



lol... no... I didn't miss anything since I've been gone. If I didn't know better, I would have thought that I just stepped out of a time machine and it was February again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 5, 2017 8:14 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Weren't we investigating Russia since the Golden Shower incident?

Jeebers...

Throw a little bit of North Korea missile scares and Rapey Weinsten scandals in the mix and we've already forgotten that Russia is a thing.

lol... no... I didn't miss anything since I've been gone. If I didn't know better, I would have thought that I just stepped out of a time machine and it was February again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Apparently you don't keep up on the news. And apparently you don't actually read whats been posted.






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Sunday, November 5, 2017 10:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I read this entire thread.

Nothing new here except for what....? The Democrats are going to "start" doing what they've been doing all year long?

Good plan. Been working great so far.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 6, 2017 1:27 AM

OONJERAH


International Consortium of Investigative Journalists:
https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/paradise-papers-ex
poses-donald-trump-russia-links-and-piggy-banks-of-the-wealthiest-1-percent
/

A trove of 13.4 million records exposes ties between Russia and
U.S. President Donald Trump’s billionaire commerce secretary, the
secret dealings of the chief fundraiser for Canadian Prime Minister
Justin Trudeau and the offshore interests of the queen of England
and more than 120 politicians around the world.


from the Headline, I can't tell
if this news is relevant or just a tease.
... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Monday, November 6, 2017 2:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Huh....

I wonder if Clinton is one of the 120 politicians there.

While it's true she didn't directly sell a great deal of Uranium to Russia, she did sell it to Canadian interests who later sold it to Russia.



We do indeed live in interesting times, don't we?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 6, 2017 3:54 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

The new files come from two offshore services firms as well as from 19 corporate registries maintained by governments in jurisdictions that serve as waystations in the global shadow economy. The leaks were obtained by German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung and shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and a network of more than 380 journalists in 67 countries.
Just like The Panama Papers, this is an engineered set of selective leaks for political purposes.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, November 6, 2017 10:23 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
International Consortium of Investigative Journalists:
https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/paradise-papers-ex
poses-donald-trump-russia-links-and-piggy-banks-of-the-wealthiest-1-percent
/

A trove of 13.4 million records exposes ties between Russia and
U.S. President Donald Trump’s billionaire commerce secretary, the
secret dealings of the chief fundraiser for Canadian Prime Minister
Justin Trudeau and the offshore interests of the queen of England
and more than 120 politicians around the world.


from the Headline, I can't tell
if this news is relevant or just a tease.
... oooOO}{OOooo ...



Yep, Trumps associates are up to their necks in Russian connections. As to your post, it's investigative reporting like this which informs us of what is going on. Who is doing what and helps us to connect the dots. This is the very type of investigative reporting Trump and his supporters, some here in these threads, try desperately to label fake or irrelevant news. Unless of course, it contains something they can use. Like about Hillary. Mostly, the relevant news of the day does not.


At least 9 members of Trump campaign or administration now shown to have Russia ties

While Trump has sought to dismiss these Russia ties as insignificant, or characterized the people involved in them as peripheral figures, it has now become clear that Special Counsel Robert Mueller views at least some of them as important pieces of his sprawling investigation of Russian meddling in last year's presidential campaign.

http://www.nola.com/national_politics/2017/11/at_least_9_members_of_tr
ump_ca.html







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Monday, November 6, 2017 10:54 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Huh....

I wonder if Clinton is one of the 120 politicians there.

While it's true she didn't directly sell a great deal of Uranium to Russia, she did sell it to Canadian interests who later sold it to Russia.



I'm at that point again. The point where I just ignore you. Here's why. Where is your link showing what you claim is true? Or showing it was reported by a reputable news outlet. Also, I notice that a Clinton story involving Russia is an outrage you must repeat, yet everything involving Trump is nothing to see here. What's up with that shit? Are you also a comrade or comrade sympathizer?






We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license — which Rosatom does not have — but even so, this 20 percent figure is especially misleading. (*See update below.) At the Fact Checker, we have described it a bit more precisely as “mining licenses for about 20 percent of U.S. uranium extraction capacity.” But we were out of date; it turns out “20 percent” is an especially stale number.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/31/the-rep
eated-incorrect-claim-that-russia-obtained-20-percent-of-our-uranium/?utm_term=.1352db29d7ad





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Monday, November 6, 2017 4:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Where is your link showing what you claim is true? Or showing it was reported by a reputable news outlet.
Hey THUGR, is this what you were looking for?

Since I didn't want to pre-digest the article, I just posted the whole thing ...

Quote:


Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show

After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

“No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

A year later, the nuclear regulator repeated the assurance in a letter to Sen. John Barrasso, a Wyoming Republican in whose state Uranium One operated mines.

“Neither Uranium One Inc. nor AMRZ holds a specific NRC export license. In order to export uranium from the United States, Uranium One Inc. or ARMZ would need to apply for and obtain a specific NRC license authorizing the exports of uranium for use in reactor fuel,” then-NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko wrote to Barrasso.

The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.

NRC officials said they could not disclose the total amount of uranium that Uranium One exported because the information is proprietary. They did, however, say that the shipments only lasted from 2012 to 2014 and that they are unaware of any exports since then.

NRC officials told The Hill that Uranium One exports flowed from Wyoming to Canada and on to Europe between 2012 and 2014, and the approval involved a process with multiple agencies.

Rather than give Rosatom a direct export license — which would have raised red flags inside a Congress already suspicious of the deal — the NRC in 2012 authorized an amendment to an existing export license for a Paducah, Ky.-based trucking firm called RSB Logistics Services Inc. to simply add Uranium One to the list of clients whose uranium it could move to Canada.

The license, reviewed by The Hill, is dated March 16, 2012, and it increased the amount of uranium ore concentrate that RSB Logistics could ship to the Cameco Corp. plant in Ontario from 7,500,000 kilograms to 12,000,000 kilograms and added Uranium One to the “other parties to Export.”

The move escaped notice in Congress.

Officials at RSB, Cameco and Rosatom did not return repeated phone calls or emails seeking comment.

Uranium One's American arm, however, emailed a statement to The Hill on Wednesday evening confirming it did export uranium to Canada through the trucking firm and that 25 percent of that nuclear fuel eventually made its way outside North America to Europe and Asia, stressing all the exports complied with federal law.

“None of the US U308 product produced to date has been sold to non-US customers except for approximately 25% which was sold via book transfer at the conversion facilities to customers from Western Europe and Asia," executive Donna Wickers said. “Any physical export of the product from conversion facilities to non-US destinations is under the control of such customers and subject to NRC regulation.”

The United States actually imports the majority of the uranium it uses as fuel. In 2016, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, 24 percent of the imports came from Kazakhstan and 14 percent came from Russia.

The sale of Uranium One to a Russian state-owned firm, however, has created political waves that have led to multiple congressional investigations. Republicans say they want to learn how the sale could have been approved and whether there was political interference.

“The more that surfaces about this deal, the more questions it raises," Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said in a statement released after this story was published. Grassley, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has launched an investigation into Uranium One.

"It now appears that despite pledges to the contrary, U.S. uranium made its way overseas as a part of the Uranium One deal," Grassley said in the statement. "What’s more disturbing, those transactions were apparently made possible by various Obama Administration agencies while the Democrat-controlled Congress turned a blind eye.

“Americans deserve assurances that political influence was not a factor in all this. I’m increasingly convinced that a special counsel — someone with no prior involvement in any of these deals — should shine a light on this ordeal and get answers for the American people.”

Government officials told The Hill that the NRC was able to amend the export license affecting Uranium One because of two other decisions previously made by the Obama administration as part of a Russian “reset” in President Obama’s first term.

First, Obama reinstated a U.S.-Russia civilian nuclear energy cooperation agreement. President George W. Bush had signed the agreement in 2008, but withdrew from it before it could take effect after Russia became involved in a military conflict with the former Soviet republic of Georgia, a U.S. ally, and after new concerns surfaced that Moscow was secretly aiding Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions.

Obama re-submitted the agreement for approval by the Democrat-controlled Congress in May 2010, declaring Russia should be viewed as a friendly partner under Section 123 the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 after agreeing to a new nuclear weapons reduction deal and helping the U.S. with Iran.

“I have concluded: (1) that the situation in Georgia need no longer be considered an obstacle to proceeding with the proposed Agreement; and (2) that the level and scope of U.S.-Russia cooperation on Iran are sufficient to justify resubmitting the proposed agreement to the Congress,” Obama said in a statement sent to Congress.

Congress took no action, which allowed the deal to become effective 90 days later.

The other step that allowed uranium from the Russian-controlled mines in the United States to be exported came in 2011, when the Commerce Department removed Rosatom, Uranium One’s owner, from a list of restricted companies that could not export nuclear or other sensitive materials or technologies without special approval under the Export Administration Regulations.

“This final rule removes the Federal Atomic Power of Russia (Rusatom) now known as the Russian State Corporation of Atomic Energy (Rosatom),” the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security declared in a May 24, 2011, notice in the Federal Register that created few waves.

Rosatom had been on the list for a long time, so long in fact that it was still listed in the federal database under its old name, Rusatom. Officials said the effort to remove the Russian nuclear firm was a “policy decision” driven by the State Department, Energy Department, Commerce Department and other agencies with Russia portfolios designed to recognize that bilateral relations between Russia and the United States had improved slightly.

Nine months after Rosatom was removed from the export restrictions list, the NRC issued its license amendment to the trucking firm in March 2012 that cleared the way for Uranium One exports, making it effective for nearly five years, to the end of 2017. But the NRC also stipulated that Uranium One’s uranium should be returned to the United States.

“The uranium authorized for export is to be returned to the United States,” the NRC instructed in the export license amendment.

But that, too, didn’t happen. Officials told The Hill that the Energy Department subsequently gave approval for some of the American fuel to depart Canada and be exported to European enrichment centers, according to a 2015 letter the NRC sent to Rep. Pete Visclosky (D-Ind.).

The NRC explained to Visclosky that it had originally stipulated that after the American uranium was treated in Canada, it had to “then return the uranium to the U.S. for further processing.”

“That license stated that the Canadian Government needed to obtain prior approval before any of the U.S. material could be transferred to any country other than the U.S.,” the letter added. “Subsequently the U.S. Department of Energy granted approval for some re-transfers of U.S. uranium from the Canadian conversion facilities to European enrichment plants.”

The NRC added, however, it did not believe any of the American uranium made its way “directly” to Russia. And it added that the whole supply chain scenario was made possible by the resubmission of Obama’s Section 123 agreement in 2010.

“The transfer of the U.S.-supplied uranium from Canada to Europe noted above also was subject to applicable Section 123 agreements,” the NRC noted. Section 123 is the part of the Atomic Energy Act that allows for the U.S. to share civilian nuclear technology and goods with allies.

The Uranium One deal has been controversial since at least 2015, when The New York Times reported former President Bill Clinton received a $500,000 speech fee from a Russian bank and millions in donations to his charitable foundation from sources interested in the deal around the time the Uranium One sale was being reviewed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s State Department and eight other federal agencies.

Hillary Clinton has said she delegated the approval decision to a deputy on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) and did not apply any pressure. Bill Clinton has said the monies he received had no bearing on his wife’s policymaking decisions.

The 2015 Times article included a single reference to Uranium One officials saying they believed some of its American uranium made its way to Europe and Japan without any reference to how that occurred.

NRC officials said the multiple decisions documented in the memos, including the 2012 amendment of the third-party export license, provide the most complete description to date of how Russian-owned uranium ended up getting exported from the United States.

The entire Uranium One episode is getting a fresh look after The Hill disclosed late last month that the FBI had gathered extensive evidence in 2009 — before the mine sale was approved — that Rosatom’s main executive in the United States was engaged in a racketeering scheme that included bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering.

The probe was enabled by an undercover informant working for the FBI inside the Russian nuclear industry, court records show. But the Justice Department did not make that evidence public until 2014, long after Rosatom benefited from multiple favorable decisions from the Obama administration.

The Senate Judiciary, House Intelligence and House Oversight committees have all announced plans to investigate the new revelation, and the Justice Department has given approval for the undercover informant to testify for the first time about what he witnessed the Russians doing to influence Obama administration decisions favorable to Rosatom between 2009 and 2014.

Hillary Clinton and other Democrats have described the renewed focus on the Uranium One deal as simply a distraction from the current investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, in which Donald Trump became the 45th president. She also says that concerns about the Uranium One sale have long ago been “debunked.”

But it’s not just Republicans who have said that the revelation the FBI had evidence that Rosatom was engaged in criminality during the time it was receiving favorable decisions from the U.S. government deserves fresh scrutiny.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a member of both the Senate Intelligence and Judiciary committees, told The Hill she would like to learn more about what the FBI knew.

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) has criticized Republicans for investigating Clinton, but said on “Morning Joe” last month he has "no problem looking into" the Uranium One deal.

And Sen. Angus King (I-Maine) said Sunday on CNN that he believed it was appropriate for Congress to investigate the new information.

“One of the House committees has already begun an oversight committee hearing," King said. "I always think oversight hearings are appropriate. I’ve been trying to understand this deal."

King also repeated the oft-quoted narrative that the “company changed hands, but the uranium that is mined in the United States cannot leave the United States." The NRC license now shows now that Uranium One was, in fact, allowed to export American uranium.

A legal expert on the CFIUS process told The Hill that the new revelation that the FBI knew that a Rosatom official was engaged in illegality on U.S. soil before the sale was approved could very well have affected the decision if that evidence had been made public in real time.

“Criminal behavior would be something the committee would take into consideration when evaluating a transaction with a foreign company,” said Stewart Baker, a foreign commerce law expert at the Steptoe Johnson firm. “It is a consideration, but it is not something that would guarantee a particular outcome.”

He said the committee board would need “to consider how serious the criminal behavior is, in the context of this transaction, how likely is it that someone acting against U.S. security interest would take action,” he added.



http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/358339-uranium-one-deal-le
d-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show





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Monday, November 6, 2017 6:15 PM

THGRRI


Did you read it SIG. You said you didn't want to predigest it so I'm guessing no. Nothing went to Russia, only our allies in Europe. And the Canadian Government needed the U.S. Governments approval before anything could be shipped. That was a stipulation put in place by the Obama administration. If anything else occurred it would probably be the Canadian Governments fault.

You're so anxious to post anything negative, that here you imply what you post confirms your assertions, merely by the act of you posting it. That's just one of the ways you attempt to deceive here in these threads. Problem is, those who challenge you here are to smart for that.

I guess that leaves Jack out. Sorry Jack but stupid is as stupid does. Come home Jack. You were an American before you became a stooge for the Russian trolls; I think.






“That license stated that the Canadian Government needed to obtain prior approval before any of the U.S. material could be transferred to any country other than the U.S.,” the letter added. “Subsequently the U.S. Department of Energy granted approval for some re-transfers of U.S. uranium from the Canadian conversion facilities to European enrichment plants.”

“The transfer of the U.S.-supplied uranium from Canada to Europe noted above also was subject to applicable Section 123 agreements,” the NRC noted. Section 123 is the part of the Atomic Energy Act that allows for the U.S. to share civilian nuclear technology and goods with allies.



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Monday, November 6, 2017 7:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Being anti-Clinton and anti-current-Democratic-Party is not being anti-American. I can understand why you would think that since that's what the MSM tells you is true everyday.

That being said, I stated that Clinton wasn't directly responsible. She may not have been responsible at all. She may even (GASP!) have been set up....


What makes you so sure she wasn't a part of it though? Why do you trust Clinton any more than you trust Trump? Trump didn't have a track record before, but I've admitted that I'm not happy with the way things have been going. Clinton had a very long and very bad track record.

Anyway you look at it, you lose.

Coo-Coo-Kachoo

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Monday, November 6, 2017 9:15 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Being anti-Clinton and anti-current-Democratic-Party is not being anti-American. I can understand why you would think that since that's what the MSM tells you is true everyday.




I'll answer this, then I will stop responding to you as I have in the past. Brace yourself stupid. I hate Clinton and the democrats of today as much or more than you. I've said as much many times. You're just to stupid for it to sink in. You want revenge. That's what you're about. Your reasons for doing so are always based on bullshit which leaves others who try and get the facts right flummoxed and frustrated.

I'm not defending Clinton as much as I am addressing the lies about her posted here. And I am also trying to redirect the focus back to my countries enemy Putin. All this Clinton shit is just miss direction away from Putin and Russia. Not what is problematic for our country today; Trump and Putin.

I give you a hard time because you like kiki and SIG, dismiss everything Putin does and suggest his interference here and around the world is much ado about nothing. You deflect from him by living in the past of Clinton.

You are without doubt the dumbest person I've ever engaged with in these threads. That's not a crime and I only post about your intelligence because your opinions are based on shit and are divisive.








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Monday, November 6, 2017 9:41 PM

OONJERAH


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

You are without doubt the dumbest person I've ever engaged with in these threads. That's not a crime and I only post about it because your opinions are so divisive.





Could he be a Troll! ?

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Monday, November 6, 2017 9:47 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

You are without doubt the dumbest person I've ever engaged with in these threads. That's not a crime and I only post about it because your opinions are so divisive.




    Could he be a Troll!?


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He is and I don't say that lightly. He kiki and SIG are always on the other side of the debate. Occasionally they bring out their sockpuppets. Facts mean nothing to them unless it suits the agenda they are pushing. Jack went from being a pervert and drunk, to a possible drunk and definite troll.






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Monday, November 6, 2017 9:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope. Just starting my 11 month sober.

Disagreeing with you doesn't make somebody stupid or a troll.

Your anti-Trump BS started on day one after the election. Your fear mongering about Russia started shortly afterward.

The title of this thread and any article that says they're going to "start" talking Russia is hilarious. It's just about all you've been talking about since February.



P.S. Calling somebody names doesn't make you win an argument.

That's a little trick most of us pick up when we reach adulthood.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Being anti-Clinton and anti-current-Democratic-Party is not being anti-American. I can understand why you would think that since that's what the MSM tells you is true everyday. - SIX

I'll answer this, then I will stop responding to you as I have in the past. Brace yourself stupid

OONJ that is being a troll.
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I hate Clinton and the democrats of today as much or more than you. I've said as much many times.- THUGR
You have? How did you manage to squeeze out ANYthing negative about Hillary, since you spend MOST of your time here endlessly calling random people "Russian trolls" and the little remaining time you have left bitching about Trump? So I'm going to call BULLSHIT on this statement and say LINKS PLEASE

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You're just to stupid for it to sink in. You want revenge. That's what you're about. Your reasons for doing so are always based on bullshit which leaves others who try and get the facts right flummoxed and frustrated. - THUGR
OONJ, NOTE: more trolling and name-calling from THUGR

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I'm not defending Clinton as much as I am addressing the lies about her posted here. - THUGR
By calling people "Russian trolls"? By mindlessly regurgitating DNC propaganda about "starting" to talk about Russia??

Here's a thought: If you really want to defend Hillary from the "lies" told about her, there's a whole thread devoted to her alleged misdeeds. So why don't you go over there, and knock yourself out, kid?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61997&p=1#1
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And I am also trying to redirect the focus back to my countries enemy Putin. All this Clinton shit is just miss direction away from Putin and Russia. Not what is problematic for our country today; Trump and Putin.- THUGR
Yep! Don't look at corruption in the USA! That might be bad ... for Clinton! Look instead at Putin! Only Putin!
And Trump!
Once Putin is defeated all will be right with the USA!

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I give you a hard time because you like kiki and SIG, dismiss everything Putin does and suggest his interference here and around the world is much ado about nothing.= THUGR
Not at all. Some of the things Russia has done in the world are quite significant, such as protecting Syria. However, in terms of interfering in other counties, Russia can't hold a candle to the USA which knocks over nations like pins in a bowling alley.

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You deflect from him by living in the past of Clinton.- THUGR
Clinton is but one member of the swamp, and a stellar exemplar of corruption! But there's plenty more like her in DC.

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You are without doubt the dumbest person I've ever engaged with in these threads. That's not a crime and I only post about your intelligence because your opinions are based on shit and are divisive. - THUGR
Yanno, seriously THUGR, the person who name-calls and who insists on dividing people along FAKE lines is .... you!

By the way, gave you EVER gone back to my 2002 -2005 posts? Do you have the faintest clue what I think? Probably not.





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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 9:28 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

you spend MOST of your time here endlessly calling random people "Russian trolls" and the little remaining time you have left bitching about Trump?
By calling people "Russian trolls"? By mindlessly regurgitating DNC propaganda about "starting" to talk about Russia??

Here's a thought: If you really want to defend Hillary from the "lies" told about her, there's a whole thread devoted to her alleged misdeeds. So why don't you go over there, and knock yourself out, kid?


Yep! Don't look at corruption in the USA! That might be bad ... for
Clinton! Look instead at Putin! Only Putin!
And Trump!

Once Putin is defeated all will be right with the USA!

Some of the things Russia has done in the world are quite significant, such as protecting Syria. However, in terms of interfering in other counties, Russia can't hold a candle to the USA which knocks over nations like pins in a bowling alley.

Clinton is but one member of the swamp, and a stell
ar exemplar of corruption! But there's plenty more like her in DC.

By the way, gave you EVER gone back to my 2002 -2005 posts? Do you have the faintest clue what I think? Probably not.




Here is your post without what you quoted from me about Jack and trolls. Quite the damnation of Clinton with a defense and even praise for Putin and Russia. Same old SIG. Bash the DNC in all these threads, bash the media, bash the judicial system investigating Trump. Bash anyone here posting about it and change the subject. Deny that anything connecting Trump to Russia has been reported accurately and claim no evidence has been provide showing they conspired together. Even though new evidence of that is reported daily.

You're a Russia troll SIG. Everything about you, about your posts matches up with Russias' propaganda of the day. All the posts from you during the election about Clinton that were untrue and came from foreign bots. And still to this day you use her to stir up negative emotions to deflect from Trump.

You suggest we look at your past posts as proof you don't troll for Russia. It's funny how you want us to go all the way back to 2005 and before. How about we stick with the past two or three years?

All anyone need do is look at your past posts to see your staunch defense of all things Russia. The Ukraine thread, the Syria thread. The thread about Russia cheating at the Olympics. You've picked up on what we all know to be Putins playbook and have been posting here as a troll since.

Jack is one of your puppets. Real or imagined makes no difference. He follows the same patter of damning Americans while calling them war mongers for criticizing Putin. I'll call the both of you and anyone else who trolls America all the derogatory names I want.





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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

you spend MOST of your time here endlessly calling random people "Russian trolls" and the little remaining time you have left bitching about Trump?

By calling people "Russian trolls"? By mindlessly regurgitating DNC propaganda about "starting" to talk about Russia??

Here's a thought: If you really want to defend Hillary from the "lies" told about her, there's a whole thread devoted to her alleged misdeeds. So why don't you go over there, and knock yourself out, kid?

Yep! Don't look at corruption in the USA! That might be bad ... for
Clinton! Look instead at Putin! Only Putin!

Once Putin is defeated all will be right with the USA!

Some of the things Russia has done in the world are quite significant, such as protecting Syria. However, in terms of interfering in other counties, Russia can't hold a candle to the USA which knocks over nations like pins in a bowling alley.

Clinton is but one member of the swamp, and a stellar exemplar of corruption! But there's plenty more like her in DC.

By the way, gave you EVER gone back to my 2002 -2005 posts? Do you have the faintest clue what I think? Probably not. - SIGNY


Here is your post without what you quoted from me about Jack and trolls.

So, where are those example of you being critical of Hillary, huh? Got any LINKS to all of those statements?

No???

I thought not.

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Quite the damnation of Clinton with a defense and even praise for Putin and Russia. -
So THUGR, what can you say that is POSITIVE about our role in the Mideast? Have we done anything constructive? Is the region more stable, are people living better, freer lives since our "interventions" there?

Please, by all means .... praise our policies right here. Our role in the Mideast and North Africa (MENA) has been positive because ...

(fill in the blanks here).


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Same old SIG. Bash the DNC
The DNC WAS in power for the past eight years. What can you say about that which is positive?

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bash the media
It's mostly a mish-mash of advertising, which is one form of corporate propaganda, and then political propaganda at the behest of corporations. But by all means ... give me examples of where the media has been against any of our wars of aggression, or against transnational corporations, corporate monopolies, or the security state.

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bash the judicial system investigating Trump.
I haven't bashed the system. I haven't even said much bad about Mueller, altho I'm beginning to suspect the guy is crooked. Comey, OTOH, is no Boy Scout; he and Lynch were up to their eyeballs in politics.

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Bash anyone here posting about it and change the subject. Deny that anything connecting Trump to Russia has been reported accurately and claim no evidence has been provide showing they conspired together.
You're right: no evidence has been provided that they conspired together.

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Even though new evidence of that is reported daily.
SUCH AS?

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You're a Russia troll SIG.
You're full of bullshit.

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Everything about you, about your posts matches up with Russias' propaganda of the day. All the posts from you during the election about Clinton that were untrue
SUCH AS?

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And still to this day you use her to stir up negative emotions to deflect from Trump.
I'm not defending Trump. You say that all YOU'RE doing is countering the "lies" told about Clinton and the DNC. Well, all I'm doing here is countering the lies told BY the DNC, and believe me there are a bunch of whoppers!

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You suggest we look at your past posts as proof you don't troll for Russia. It funny how you want us to go all the way back to 2005 and before. How about we stick with the past two or three years?
Because LOGIC dictates that anyone who's been posting here for as long as I have IS NOT A RUSSIAN TROLL. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to imagine that "Russia" ... in the throes of economic free-fall in 2002... would have injected a troll on an obscure scifi board with the idea that "someday" they might come in handy.

If you go back and read my posts, you'll see that I have PLENTY bad to say about the GOP, about wars of aggression, and about corporations.




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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:49 AM

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Hey SIG.I have no intention of responding to your post as you want. I made my point and will continue to do so when it pleases me, not you comrade. I am comfortable with all seeing what you post and what I will or will not concern myself with.

Besides, your questions are just a further distraction from the point of the thread. If you wish to talk about the middle east start yet another pro Putin anti West thread on the subject.






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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

Jack is one of your puppets. Real or imagined makes no difference. He follows the same patter of damning Americans while calling them war mongers for criticizing Putin. I'll call the both of you and anyone else who trolls America all the derogatory names I want.



LOL... Knock yourself out kid.

BTW... while everybody is going around calling 2017 the worst year in the history of mankind, it hasn't been all that bad for me.

I'm more than 10 months sober.

I've lost 60lbs.

I've fully repaired relationships with my mom and step-dad and spent the better part of two months helping them with their retirement move.

I'm actually a pretty big part of my Niece's life after being largely absent the first 3 years because I was a worthless drunk.

I've gotten back into a long lost and loved hobby of mine, as well as re-established some old connections with others in the process.

And just this morning I got a job. (Didn't want to jinx it this time by telling anybody before I got it).



WTF have you done to improve your own personal situation in 2017 T?

Maybe you all just need to get off the internet and get off your ass and start doing for yourself instead of crying about all the bullshit that is completely out of your control.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Hey SIG.I have no intention of responding to your post
In other words, you absolutely cannot back up any of your insinuations about me, KIKI, and SIX, nor are you able to back up your "claims" about being anti-Hillary and "stopping the lies".

In other words .... you're either a liar, or a troll, or (most likely) both. BUT! We already knew that!

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I made my point and will continue to do so when it pleases me,
In other words you will continue to lie, troll, and propagandize as before.

Yep!

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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX, That's good news. I'm happy for you that life is looking up. I don't know how you accomplished it ... and knowing myself how hard it is to change ingrained habits and break addictions (like, yanno, food) ... all I can say is: Good on you for getting this far. It's certainly something that I look up to you for.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:14 PM

THGRRI


In the meantime, it's that darn Russia thing again


Sessions to testify to House next week in Russia probe

Nov. 7 (UPI) -- Attorney General Jeff Sessions will testify before the House Judiciary Committee next week as part of its ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

All 10 committee Democrats signed a letter asking Sessions about questions on Russian ties to Donald Trump's presidential campaign. Sessions has recused himself from Russian matters as head of the Justice Department because he was a top policy adviser during the Trump campaign.

In previous testimony in Congress, Sessions said he was "not aware of any of those" contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign surrogates.

Later, it was revealed that he spoke to Russia's then-U.S. ambassador Sergey Kislyak. At a judiciary hearing last month, Sessions testified that he had "no improper involvement" with Russian officials and that he was "not aware of anyone" who had communications with the Russians.

Since then it was disclosed that campaign staffer George Papadopoulos, in a meeting that included Sessions, offered in March 2016 to use his contacts and set up a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Last week, he pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russians.

Sessions reportedly rejected the proposal.

Another campaign adviser, Carter Page, told the House Intelligence Committee last week that he informed Sessions in July 2016 about his own planned trip to Moscow.

"These facts appear to contradict your sworn testimony on several occasions," the Democrats on the House judiciary panel, led by Rep. Jon Conyers Jr., of Michigan, wrote in a letter dated Tuesday.

The letter also noted committee members have sent more than 40 letters to the Trump administration "asking for information necessary to carry out our oversight of the Department of Justice. We have not yet received a single meaningful response to any of the letters," including ones sent directly to the department.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/11/07/Sessions-to-testify-to-Hous
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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, That's good news. I'm happy for you that life is looking up. I don't know how you accomplished it ... and knowing myself how hard it is to change ingrained habits and break addictions (like, yanno, food) ... all I can say is: Good on you for getting this far. It's certainly something that I look up to you for.



Thanks Sigs. :)

I wouldn't describe it as looking up, but I'm turning things around at my own pace. At least I seem to be on the right trajectory at the moment.

My mom and step-dad said I needed to hit bottom. I've thought about that pretty deeply before though and I told them that's just it.... I didn't hit bottom, and that concerns me a little. Things could have gotten far worse before I turned it around. I've done some permanent damage that can never be repaired (both physical and otherwise), sure, but I never lost everything. I never even came close. I kind of built this castle around me that allows me to do partake in that self-destructive behavior for a pretty damn long time without any immediate consequences that would have ended it all. What I mean is that I wouldn't be losing my home or getting my lights turned off in the mean time. I really still believe that if I didn't quit when I did that I might not still be alive today. I'd have died with a zero balance sheet and a high credit score. Nobody really understands how bad it got for me and the ones I've told about it kind of gasp in disbelief because they had no idea it was happening. If I slip again, it will probably be my last time.

All I can do is keep trying to push forward and hope that I don't slip again.

I wouldn't look up to me at all... At least not yet. Maybe we'll revisit that in 5 or 10 years when hopefully I'll still be on the wagon and improving my life.



BTW... I never had a real food problem myself, and even at my age my metabolism is still pretty good. I didn't completely change my diet on top of all of these other things, so I can't take any credit for that for the weight loss. That just tends to happen when you're not consuming 18,000-20,000 calories of beer in a week over 10 months.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:34 AM

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Blue wave sweeps over New Jersey and Virginia, but watch for the undertow

It's hard to overstate what Tuesday's sweeping victories mean for Democratic enthusiasm and excitement. The party that needed a win got a bunch of them with a night that replenishes the bench and rejuvenates the faithful.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/note-blue-wave-sweeps-jersey-virginia-w
atch-undertow/story?id=51008817







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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol...

"rejuvenates the faithful"...

That about sums it up. It's a cult.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 12:54 PM

THGRRI


I would suggest to all Americans on these threads, that anyone who calls an entire party, i.e. democratic or republican a cult, is not American. Not one who's in a stable frame of mind anyway.

Frame of mind: a particular mood that influences one's attitude or behavior. Anyone who would do that is pretty sick.






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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 4:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I would suggest to any American, particularly those in the MSM who's words travel far and wide, to not use cult-like rhetoric when speaking about their party of choice or to exhibit cult-like behavior in its name, lest they be labeled a cult.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 4:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


See how that can be done without throwing out insults, T?

I know you can do it. Show everybody that you're not as childish, all the time, as you behave, all the time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:00 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I would suggest to any American, particularly those in the MSM who's words travel far and wide, to not use cult-like rhetoric when speaking about their party of choice or to exhibit cult-like behavior in its name, lest they be labeled a cult.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Let me point out here that Jack constantly suggests some here get their news from MSM. And, that those who do are a part of a cult. He has a hateful view of them and expresses it often. He believes they create the stories that so upset him. Over and over again he criticizes MSM.

Folks, there is no such news outlet as MSM. MSN, is a collection of news stories that includes Fox and other conservative news outlets. If Jack ever looked up from his keyboard and read a story printed there, he would realize the site is bipartisan. It is a search engine controlled by Microsoft, used to attract viewers to their products, i.e. office and outlook.

Big point? Jack doesn't think before he attacks. Jack doesn't read news or research anything. Look at his posts. They are collectively negative responses to others posts, on topics of which he knows nothing. And that would make him, yep you guessed it.





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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Obviously MSM means MainStream Media.

I don't know why you are pretending not to know that. Everybody else knows what MSM means.

The MSM encompasses MSNBC, CNN and Fox News, among others.

I don't know why I'm even explaining that to you. There's no possible way that somebody who uses the internet regularly in 2017 doesn't know what that means.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Look at that last post, T.

Once again, that is an example of how adults discuss things.

I took your misunderstanding of something, and the slew of insults that followed it, and in turn explained it to you and did not attack you back.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Obviously MSM means MainStream Media.

I don't know why you are pretending not to know that. Everybody else knows what MSM means.

The MSM encompasses MSNBC, CNN and Fox News, among others.

I don't know why I'm even explaining that to you. There's no possible way that somebody who uses the internet regularly in 2017 doesn't know what that means.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



If what you say is true then you have no honest source of news. If you think people who access main stream news are cultish, then you are not living in reality because reality is fake to you. It also means you refuse to research anything you have an opinion on Jack. How could you possible know what's what.

And that my dear Jack makes you in a very obvious and unacceptable manner, uninformed and ignorant about what you speak. Either way Jack the prognoses on you is bad.

I've wasted enough time with you Jack. It's like trying to make someone upstand something that's way over their head.





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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:05 PM

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Back to the OP -

Its bizar that therez even a question about it. It woud be like trying to run for offis in 1942 without mentioning the war.

Gotta be committee think. Individualz cant be that stoopid.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Obviously MSM means MainStream Media.

I don't know why you are pretending not to know that. Everybody else knows what MSM means.

The MSM encompasses MSNBC, CNN and Fox News, among others.

I don't know why I'm even explaining that to you. There's no possible way that somebody who uses the internet regularly in 2017 doesn't know what that means.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



If what you say is true then you have no honest source of news. If you think people who access main stream news are cultish, then you are not living in reality because reality is fake to you. It also means you refuse to research anything you have an opinion on Jack. How could you possible know what's what.

And that my dear Jack makes you in a very obvious and unacceptable manner, uninformed and ignorant about what you speak. Either way Jack the prognoses on you is bad.

I've wasted enough time with you Jack. It's like trying to make someone upstand something that's way over their head.







I don't think that all news is bullshit. I do, however, feel that an article like the one you quoted is bullshit.

When a "reporter" says something as biased as the statement I took issue with and said was cultish, there is no purpose in reading that article any further. The author cannot be trusted to give any objectivity in their "reporting" and the piece becomes nothing more than a biased editorial.

This is equally true for anybody on Fox News and the like as it is for MSNBC or CNN and the like.


You're of the mind that everything Fox News says is bullshit.

I'm of the mind that probably half of what Fox News says is bullshit and half of what CNN and MSNBC have to say is bullshit.

Get it?


EDIT: You still haven't fixed your color issue.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 9, 2017 2:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

If what you say is true then you have no honest source of news. If you think people who access main stream news are cultish, then you are not living in reality because reality is fake to you. It also means you refuse to research anything you have an opinion on. How could you possible know what's what. - THUGR
Coming from you, that's a hoot! Dood, in the early days of chemistry some of the best research was done by Germans and Russians. Were scientists supposed to avoid reading something because it was written by a German or Russian?

You pay FAR too much attention to your sources because you "trust" and "believe" them, and you avoid sources of legitimate information because you don't "like" them. Now if THAT isn't a way to guarantee a distorted view of the world, I don't know what is!

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Thursday, November 9, 2017 9:37 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

If what you say is true then you have no honest source of news. If you think people who access main stream news are cultish, then you are not living in reality because reality is fake to you. It also means you refuse to research anything you have an opinion on. How could you possible know what's what. - THUGR
Coming from you, that's a hoot! Dood, in the early days of chemistry some of the best research was done by Germans and Russians. Were scientists supposed to avoid reading something because it was written by a German or Russian?

You pay FAR too much attention to your sources because you "trust" and "believe" them, and you avoid sources of legitimate information because you don't "like" them. Now if THAT isn't a way to guarantee a distorted view of the world, I don't know what



Subjective bullshit SIG.

It isn't the writer ' mainstream media ' who is writing falsehoods, instead it is the reader who is bigoted against the writer. Bigoted against anything establishment. Jack is a beaten man. Anyone who is so against the mainstream is corrupted by defeat.

In this case Jack is bigoted against mainstream news and thinking because his life is a series of defeats. And lets not forget, Jack doesn't read news of any kind. That would be to much work. Nope, instead he just argues his point of view which is distorted by thses defeats.

Then there's you. Who's favorite source of news is a blog that twists the truth to suit their needs; sad.







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Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You don't know anything about me, T.

I've been turning my life around quite a bit this year and I've posted about it to you in several places, and you completely ignore that.

What have you done this year besides bitch and moan about everything, and kick people when they're down?

You're even more disgusting that Wishy is. At least she's got some excuses from living in a lot of pain and not having a great life. She didn't exactly have the greatest of hands dealt to her.

You're just an asshole to everyone who doesn't agree with you, just for the sake of being an asshole.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:36 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You don't know anything about me, T.

I've been turning my life around quite a bit this year and I've posted about it to you in several places, and you completely ignore that.

What have you done this year besides bitch and moan about everything, and kick people when they're down?

You're even more disgusting that Wishy is. At least she's got some excuses from living in a lot of pain and not having a great life. She didn't exactly have the greatest of hands dealt to her.

You're just an asshole to everyone who doesn't agree with you, just for the sake of being an asshole.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



What I've written is what you have posted about yourself. It explains why you think what you do. It shows your critical thinking skills to be saturated with the negative goings on in your life. What you post makes perfect sense when your background is visible. I don't do it to be mean. I do it in response to your negative uninformed postings regarding important issues.

First and foremost, my country is under attack by Russian trolls at the behest of Putin. The world is under attack from Russian trolls at the behest of Putin. They intentionally push peoples buttons in an attempt to ensue havoc and descent. Trumps administration before and after the election has lied across the board about any connection or contacts with Russia.

You dismiss it out of hand. For what reason I don't know. To me your deflection away from, and challenge to, anyone who keeps this subject in the forefront means you need to be challenged or ignored. I really need to start doing that.

What I post has to remain to my best ability, truthful. You should encourage that in yourself and others. Once a poster starts to manipulate the truth as SIG does they are not to be believed at all.






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Thursday, November 9, 2017 12:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You're a tin foil hat wearing looney toon.

You need to stop watching so much news and get a life.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 13, 2017 12:32 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're a tin foil hat wearing looney toon.

You need to stop watching so much news and get a life.




You don't get it so I'll tell you again Jack. I'll also suggest you watch some news. Educate yourself of the facts.

What I've written is what you have posted about yourself. It explains why you think what you do. It shows your critical thinking skills to be saturated with the negative goings on in your life. What you post makes perfect sense when your background is visible. I don't do it to be mean. I do it in response to your negative uninformed postings regarding important issues.

First and foremost, my country is under attack by Russian trolls at the behest of Putin. The world is under attack from Russian trolls at the behest of Putin. They intentionally push peoples buttons in an attempt to ensue havoc and descent. Trumps administration before and after the election has lied across the board about any connection or contacts with Russia.

You dismiss it out of hand. For what reason I don't know. To me your deflection away from, and challenge to, anyone who keeps this subject in the forefront means you need to be challenged or ignored. I really need to start doing that.

What I post has to remain to my best ability, truthful. You should encourage that in yourself and others. Once a poster starts to manipulate the truth as SIG does they are not to be believed at all.








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