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Euromaidan Snipers Were Hired By Ukrainian Opposition (Italian media)

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Monday, November 20, 2017 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

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Make of this what you will, an Italian TV station (Channel 5) aired a documentary in which

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several of the snipers admitted that the pro-US/EU Ukrainain opposition was behind these deaths.

According to the documentary, Georgian Alexander Revazishvilli and his two companions were hired in Tbilisi by Mamuka Mamulashvili to support the Euromaidan coup alongisde with other Georgian and Lithuanian volunteers.

Mamulashvili and other leaders of the Ukrainian opposition distributed weapons among the hired “volunteer groups” and tasked them shoot at the protestors and policy and sow the chaos.



An Italian newspaper Il Giornal (The Journal, which Wikipedia claims has a conservative stance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Giornale) further reports (google translation)

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“Everyone started shooting two or three shots at a time. It went on for fifteen, twenty minutes. We had no choice. We were ordered to shoot both on the police and the demonstrators, without any difference. I was totally outraged.”

So Georgian Alexander Revazishvilli remembers the tragic shootout of 20 February 2014 in Kiev when a group of mysterious snipers opened fire on crowds and cops massacring over 80 people. That massacre has horrified the world and changed the destiny of Ukraine by forcing President Viktor Yanukovich accused of organizing the shootout. But the massacre also changed the fates of Europe and our country, triggering the crisis that will lead to sanctions against Putin’s Russia. Sanctions revealed a boomerang for the Italian economy

Revazishvilli’s confessions and two other Georgians – gathered by writers in the documentary “Ukraine, the hidden truths” aired tonight at 23.30 on Matrix, Channel 5 – reveal a different truth and disconcerting. The truth of a massacre and the same opposition that accused Yanukovych and his Russian allies. Revazishvilli and his two companions – met and interviewed in the documentary – are a former member of the security services of former Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili and two former militants of his own party. Hired in Tbilisi by Mamuka Mamulashvili, Saakashvili’s military advisor, are tasked with supporting – along with other Georgian and Lithuanian volunteers – ongoing demonstrations in Kiev in return for a $ 5,000 final fee. Having fake passports arrive in Ukraine to coordinate demonstrations and lead the Ukrainian police, initially without using weapons. The weapons come on stage on February 18 and are distributed to the various Georgian and Lithuanian groups by Mamulashvili and other leaders of the Ukrainian opposition. “There were three or four weapons in each bag, there were Makarov guns, Akm guns, rifles, and then cartridges.” The following day Mamulashvili and the leaders of the protest explain to volunteers who will face a police assault at the Conservatory building and at the Ukraine hotel. In that case – he says – we must shoot at the square and sow the chaos. But one of the protagonists confesses to having received another explanation, much more comprehensive. “When Mamulashvili arrived, I also asked him. Things are getting complicated, we have to start shooting – he replied that we can not go to the pre-election presidential elections. But who should shoot? “I asked. He replied that who and where it did not matter, you had to shoot somewhere so much to sow chaos. ”

“It did not matter if we fired at a tree, a barricade, or the molotov. confirms another volunteer – what counts was sowing confusion. Listen to the screams confess Alexander – there were dead and injured. My first and only thought was to leave me in a hurry before they caught up with me. Otherwise they would break me. Someone was already shouting that there were snipers Four years later Alexander and his two companions reported that they had not yet received the slightest reward and had also decided to tell the truth about who used them and abandoned them. “At that time I did not realize, I was not ready, then I understood. We’ve been used. Used and stuck. “



http://www.ilgiornale.it/video/mondo/versione-dei-cecchini-piazza-maid
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Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:50 AM

SIGNYM

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I noticed that KRAPO, THUGR, and GSTRING have nothing to say about this. I'm sure they're busy trying to figure out a way to blame Russia.

Been saying all along, the shooting looked like a false flag, just like in Venezuela, designed to foment outrage and oust a democratically-elected President. The USA has a history of destabilizing governments, and fostering "color revolutions" and "Arab Springs" is one way.

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by G:
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I noticed that KRAPO, THUGR, and GSTRING have nothing to say about this. I'm sure they're busy trying to figure out a way to blame Russia.

Been saying all along, the shooting looked like a false flag, just like in Venezuela, designed to foment outrage and oust a democratically-elected President. The USA has a history of destabilizing governments, and fostering "color revolutions" and "Arab Springs" is one way.




Geezus, go bake something.

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Sad isn't it G. Russia invades Ukraine, they are desperately trying to defend themselves, and sig is yelling foul. I haven't read the story about snipers because I don't trust sigs' posts as being truthful.

Her source adopted a tabloid format in 2005. She neglected to mention that as she tried to give it credibility. Tabloid journalism is a style of journalism that tends to emphasize topics such as sensational crime stories, astrology, gossip columns about the personal lives of celebrities and sports stars, and junk food news. Such journalism is commonly associated with tabloid sized newspapers including the National Enquirer, Globe, or The Sun, and the former News of the World. .

Nonetheless, poor Russia sig. Poor poor Russia


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Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:45 PM

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:04 PM

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Your video was Published on Sep 12, 2008. Nine years ago asshole. At the time it was said that Chavez ordered that protestors were to be fired on. Still, I have to admit ignorance as to who was to blame. Just as you would if you weren't trying to troll.

This video is meaningless when it comes to the fighting going on in the Ukraine. It is however, a window into how you process information and why your interpretations of facts is so fucked up and troll like. It's only purpose is to attract a response. Not to inform.



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Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:59 PM

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Your video was Published on Sep 12, 2008. Nine years ago asshole.
This was an EXAMPLE of a false flag, and how they are used to smear the target organization. The actual event (attempted coup and false-flag sniper fire) occurred in 2002.

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At the time it was said
BY WHOM??? The State Department and the MSM?
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that Chavez ordered that protestors were to be fired on. Still, I have to admit ignorance as to who was to blame. Just as you would if you weren't trying to troll.

But, I'm not ignorant THUGR.

Here is some on-the-spot reporting for you from Venezuela. This was filmed by a Irishman and his film crew who were in Venezuela to interview with Chavez, and wound up being caught up in the coup attempt. The part with the sniper fire is part 2/4, but feel free to watch the whole thing. BTW, with the American internet being scrubbed of alternate views, these were damn hard to find, even tho there is nothing "fake" about them.

PART 1/4


PART 2/4


PART 3/4


PART 4/4





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Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:20 PM

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OH MY GOD G. What a great post. It is without a doubt, the best example of sigs' hypocrisy ever posted. All the examples of Trumps indiscretions and yet sig is his staunchest supporter.

All the years of sig posting how others behavior was worth the ire of everyone except Putins', Trump and other authoritarians, is fully exposed by your post. And how does she respond? By once again deflecting. Posting opinions about Chavez without proof. After insisting in thread after thread, that all that has been reported about Trump in the press is without proof. She posts video after video of bullshit about Chaves. Of events that are decades old and meaningless to the thread she started. Nothing about Trump and what you've post at all.

Bravo for exposing her once again as a sick and twisted troll.


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Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:33 PM

SIGNYM

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What is worse expression of hate, THUGR?
Tweets, or bombs?

Bush ... destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan, leaving them smoking ruins filled with jihadists and riven by internal strife, killing up to a million people.

Obama ... destroyed Libya and destabilized four others, in which over a half-million people were killed and millions more were displaced, leaving three smoking clusterfucks filled with jihadists, and all of them riven by civil war.

I'm not supporting Trump. I would WELCOME a serious discussion of Trump's failings; just not this petty shit that GSTRING and SECOND always whine about.

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:35 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is worse expression of hate, THUGR?
Tweets, or bombs?

Bush ... destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan, leaving them smoking ruins filled with jihadists and riven by internal strife, killing up to a million people.

Obama ... destroyed Libya and destabilized four others, in which over a half-million people were killed and millions more were displaced, leaving three smoking clusterfucks filled with jihadists, and all of them riven by civil war.

I'm not supporting Trump. I would WELCOME a serious discussion of Trump's failings; just not this petty shit that GSTRING and SECOND always whine about.




Oh for Christ's sake you fucking troll. Address what G posted about Trump. And when you speak about SECOND and G, please include me. I'm in that group. As are many others.


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Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:44 PM

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Oh for Christ's sake you fucking troll. Address what G posted about Trump.- THUGR


Why? This is a thread about false-flag snipers, not about Trump. It's GSTRING who's trolling, by posting off-topic comments and attempting to derail the topic.

In any case, I already addressed GSTRING's post, but I'll address it again: It's petty.

Happy now?

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:15 PM

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Oh for Christ's sake you fucking troll. Address what G posted about Trump.- THUGR


Why? This is a thread about false-flag snipers, not about Trump. It's GSTRING who's trolling, by posting off-topic comments and attempting to derail the topic.

In any case, I already addressed GSTRING's post, but I'll address it again: It's petty.

Happy now?



The title of your thread is "Euromaidan Snipers Were Hired By Ukrainian Opposition (Italian media)."

For the life of me I don't see how that equates with Chavez from decades ago firing on his own people. What I see is you supporting false statements from that period, as well as false statements from a tabloid suggesting the same thing is going on in the Ukraine. That is the only propagandized connection I see. The connection a troll would make. Add to that your link is in a language not used to post here.

I don't think you're aware that your so called response to Gs' post, does anything but prove my Gs' and others who post here's point. Nope, it simply won't do.


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Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:23 PM

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For the life of me I don't see how that equates with Chavez from decades ago firing on his own people. - THUGR
Just watch the Part 2/4 video, you'll see what happened, and stop being so gorram stupid.

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