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Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches

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Monday, June 11, 2018 12:01 PM

JJ


Merkel: G-7 summit with Trump was a 'sobering' experience

FRANKFURT, Germany — German Chancellor Angela Merkel found the contentious Group of Seven summit with U.S. President Donald Trump a "sobering" and "depressing" experience but said European leaders won't be "taken advantage of" on trade.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/merkel-g-7-summit-with-trump-was-
a-sobering-experience/ar-AAytwie?ocid=spartanntp


Some of us called this as soon as Trump started campaigning. The rest here were at that time, and remain to this day, to be fools and trolls.

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Monday, June 11, 2018 12:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Those of us with half a brain do not take anything Merkel says seriously.

Then there's you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, June 11, 2018 12:46 PM

JJ


Dem amendment would force Trump to appoint a cyber coordinator

A Democratic senator is looking to add an amendment to annual defense policy legislation to force President Trump to appoint a cybersecurity coordinator at the White House after the administration's controversial decision to eliminate the role.

Of course, Trump wouldn't want the Russians monitored or blocked. What a traitor...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-amendment-would-force-trum
p-to-appoint-a-cyber-coordinator/ar-AAyv5W9?ocid=spartanntp


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Monday, June 11, 2018 4:01 PM

JJ


AP FACT CHECK: Trump ignores strong points in US trade

President Donald Trump is presenting a skewed portrait of how the world does business with the U.S to rationalize his escalating trade dispute with allies.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/ap-fact-check-trump-ignores-s
trong-points-in-us-trade/ar-AAyu1tC


Altogether now, how stupid is Trump, that's right.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:34 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
AP FACT CHECK: Trump ignores strong points in US trade

President Donald Trump is presenting a skewed portrait of how the world does business with the U.S to rationalize his escalating trade dispute with allies.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/ap-fact-check-trump-ignores-s
trong-points-in-us-trade/ar-AAyu1tC


Altogether now, how stupid is Trump, that's right.

T


Totally destroying the Economy. Totally.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Peace is breaking out in Syria. The Kurds are going to negotiate without preconditions with the Assad government on how to shape Syria. Rumor is that a "federalist" approach is going to be the proposal.

Peace in breaking out in N Korea.

As for the Germans, fuck 'em. They've been taking the USA for a ride for years.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 3:18 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Peace is breaking out in Syria. The Kurds are going to negotiate without preconditions with the Assad government on how to shape Syria. Rumor is that a "federalist" approach is going to be the proposal.

Peace in breaking out in N Korea.

As for the Germans, fuck 'em. They've been taking the USA for a ride for years.

See, now you're proving JJT right. A perfectly good War, lasting a couple Millennia in the Middle East, and now Trump is destroying that too. If Trump Peace keeps breaking out, where will any leftover Wars be?
Trump is just destroying everything he touches, everything Liberals have been toiling away at for eons. Obama had such a great Legacy of War cultivated in Syria and neighbors, and now Trump destroyed all that work.
What next, Tax Reform? Oops, too late, Trump already destroyed the Libtard Tax Code and Loopholes.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 3:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Merkle's just butt hurt because she's never actually dealt with a man who had testosterone before.

She's got more than Treudeau and the eunuchs that run most of the EU states combined.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:09 AM

JJ


In response to whomever posted that we are living in a Trump created economy, wrong. Trump is benefiting from what Obama did. Trump inherited a continually improving economy from Obama. One that had 7.8 percent unemployment rate and climbing when Obama took office, and was at 4.3 percent when trump took office. When Obama came into office we were hemorrhaging more than seven hundred thousand jobs a month.

You guys crack me up.
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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Now I get to say that you guys crack me up.

The economy isn't much better today than it was under Obama, and that wasn't good either.

We might technically have more jobs than by the time GWB was out of office, but they're shit jobs compared to what were out there.

You two arguing about it is like having a who's dick is bigger contest when you're both rocking under 3 inches.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What would it take to "fix" the economy?

Well, it would take re-industrialization - to the point where the USA COULD produce every vital commodity and manufactured item ... steel, concrete, aluminum, chips, chemicals, construction and farm equipment, pharmaceuticals, batteries etc, and be able to trade fairly with any other nation for the missing items (i.e neutral balance of trade) and not be dependent on running massive trade deficits for maintaining our lifestyle.

It would take doing away with fractional reserve banking, and developing national, state and local banks to help finance actual ... yanno ... investment, and not depend on money made out of thin air by private banks to prop up the financial speculation in which they are also invested.

It would require massive re-investment in infrastructure- roads, bridges, waterways, electrical grid, water supplies, communications etc- to allow better transportation - of water, electricity, goods, information etc.

PLUS, IN IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES it would require production at the local and regional level, in preparation for any sort of disaster - hurricane, earthquake, cyberattack - to allow the economy to break apart into functional units that could maintain basic survival at the local level until the emergency was dealt with.

In would require environmental restoration and conservation retrofitting so that our biological productivity and water supplies can be maintained indefinitely.

This would be a multi-decade effort, FAR BEYOND what any President could hope to accomplish in one or even two terms, and the globalist elites and entrenched oligarchs and banking structures - and their deep state compatriots and media/ Hollywood collaborators - would fight tooth and nail, every inch of the way, to make sure that THEIR power and wealth would never be diminished. TRUMP IS NOT ABOUT TO DO ALL OF THAT. The best he can hope to accomplish is to dismantle as much as possible the deep state, and MAYBE audit The Fed.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


When I was youngish ... during the Vietnam War era ... "liberals" were antiwar.

When did that all change? I can point to the breakup of Yugoslavia (accompanied by much cheering and applause) and our involvement in Somalia, under Bill Clinton, under the guise of that era's version of "R2P"; but attitudes must have changed before than. It was a sad conversion when liberals forgot their anti-war roots and dove headfirst into the "regime change" model.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 2:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hmm.... so, no explanation from the "liberals" here as to how you became such warmongers?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 10:23 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hmm.... so, no explanation from the "liberals" here as to how you became such warmongers?

Almost funny hearing Democraps cheering and chanting for Nuclear Armageddon, as long as it reflects poorly on Trump.

And also wishing, hoping, praying for more Obama disastrous Economy, F-you to all honest working American Citizens - we need to make Trump look bad.


What is R2P?

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:46 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hmm.... so, no explanation from the "liberals" here as to how you became such warmongers?

Almost funny hearing Democraps cheering and chanting for Nuclear Armageddon, as long as it reflects poorly on Trump.

And also wishing, hoping, praying for more Obama disastrous Economy, F-you to all honest working American Citizens - we need to make Trump look bad.


What is R2P?

Why do you keep making shit up?

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:49 AM

REAVERFAN


Actual text:

Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.–DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.–DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.–DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.
Having acknowledged that the U.S.–DPRK summit—the first in history—was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.–DPRK summit.

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.–DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.

DONALD J. TRUMP
President of the United States of America

KIM JONG UN
Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

Can you imagine the shit fits you fascists would be having if Obama had given away the store like Trump just did?

Un played him like the fool he is.


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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:56 AM

REAVERFAN


"A document promising."

The DPRK has made promises or guarantees of ending it's weapons program a dozen previous times.

There are absolutely no mechanisms, contracts, or safeguards in place to inspect, much less guarantee, that North Korea follows through on anything.

There is no allowance for international inspectors or regular inspections.

There is no allowance for oversight from the international community of the denuclearization process.

There is no timetable.

There is no mention of anything except an extremely and intentionally vague promise between the two most dishonest heads of state in the world.

In return Trump stood in front of The DPRK flag honoring the most genocidal and dictatorial regime in modern history.
He praised Kim Jong-Un for his love of the people he enslaves, rapes, starves and executes.

He praised their beautiful beaches and brought up their potential for luxury resorts.

He promised to end all US military exercises in the region. Which he did without discussing it with our allies or even our own military.

Then he came home and declared our own free press America's greatest enemy.

Only a few days after defaming our closest allies and trade partner at The G-7 Summit where he defended Russian economic interests more than America's.

If you do not have any problems with that than I hope you are planning on hiding inside on The 4th of July. That is not a threat of violence. Merely a comment on where you belong on that day.

Because you certainly are not a patriot.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

What is R2P?
"Responsibility to Protect", the banner under which liberals justify invading/ destabilizing foreign nations. They claim that they have the "responsibility to protect" citizens who are being tyrannized by their leaders, and then they go bomb the snot out of them and/or pay proxy jihadists/ neo-Nazis/ contract killers to do their dirty work for them.

This is what "R2P" results in ... pictures "after and before".









These pictures are of LIBYA. I could post similar pictures of Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan. People who claim that TRUMP "destroys everything he touches" seem to have lost sight of the REAL destruction that occurred under Obama and Bush.




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:14 PM

REAVERFAN


China approves Donald Trump-branded spas, escort services, hotels and massage parlours without US Congress permission
Preliminary approval has been granted for 38 trademarks which raises further questions about conflicts of interest

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-b
randed-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html


Nope, nothing to see here, folks. Just ignore the facts.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:18 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump Just Called the Free Press ‘Our Country’s Biggest Enemy’

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/13/trump-just-called-the-free-pre
ss-our-countrys-biggest-enemy.html


Can you say 'lugenpresse?"

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:26 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It's not a "free press", it's a "bought and paid for" press.

Meanwhile, you have totally ignored the REAL destruction wrought by Obama and Bush. How typical. You lack rationality ... (rationality- the ability to ratio/ compare relative size). How does the actual destruction of nations .... with it attendant loss of life and limb ... compare to the rhetorical "destruction" of NATO or "free trade"? Did anyone get killed? Was infrastructure destroyed? IMHO one event is clearly of much lesser importance that the other.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 3:24 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not a "free press", it's a "bought and paid for" press.

Meanwhile, you have totally ignored the REAL destruction wrought by Obama and Bush. How typical. You lack rationality ... (rationality- the ability to ratio/ compare relative size). How does the actual destruction of nations .... with it attendant loss of life and limb ... compare to the rhetorical "destruction" of NATO or "free trade"? Did anyone get killed? Was infrastructure destroyed? IMHO one event is clearly of much lesser importance that the other.

Shove this up your ass, Signym:

The con being played is, in its own warped way, magnificent:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!
4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006837823469735936

It’s not just that Trump spent a year threatening war and is now taking credit for war no longer being on the table. It’s more than that: North Korea is no longer even a nuclear threat, full stop. He’s basically claiming that the mere fact of meeting with Donald Trump has mesmerized Kim Jong Un into dismantling his nuclear arsenal.

The reality is that North Korea still has nuclear weapons. They still have ICBMs. They still have centrifuges. They still have testing facilities. And they’ve made no commitments whatsoever—neither explicitly nor in any other way—to so much as slow down their nuke program, let alone abandon it. And yet, their nuclear threat is over. “Sleep well tonight!” Trump says, here: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006839007492308992

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

It's not a "free press", it's a "bought and paid for" press. - SIGNY
No comment, SECOND?

Quote:

Meanwhile, you have totally ignored the REAL destruction wrought by Obama and Bush. How typical.- SIGNY
No comment to this, either?

Quote:

Shove this up your ass, Signym:
The con being played is, in its own warped way, magnificent:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future! 4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018

So what?

Trump, not the most articulate person ever. But wily. Definitely wily.

I'm hoping you will pursue this topic with me some more
Quote:

I thank you for those words, and would appreciate more. Let's imagine that the military service, from draftee up thru the ranks to the highest generals AND the President, shared your idealism. What would "winning" have looked like, to you, and -perhaps more importantly - HOW would you have achieved that goal/ won the war?
over here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&p=28 thanks!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:01 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
Merkel: G-7 summit with Trump was a 'sobering' experience

FRANKFURT, Germany — German Chancellor Angela Merkel found the contentious Group of Seven summit with U.S. President Donald Trump a "sobering" and "depressing" experience but said European leaders won't be "taken advantage of" on trade.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/merkel-g-7-summit-with-trump-was-
a-sobering-experience/ar-AAytwie?ocid=spartanntp


Some of us called this as soon as Trump started campaigning. The rest here were at that time, and remain to this day, to be fools and trolls.



The G-7 use to be a photo op, then Trump shows up and turns it into a business meeting

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Thursday, June 14, 2018 11:42 AM

JJ


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hmm.... so, no explanation from the "liberals" here as to how you became such warmongers?

Almost funny hearing Democraps cheering and chanting for Nuclear Armageddon, as long as it reflects poorly on Trump.

And also wishing, hoping, praying for more Obama disastrous Economy, F-you to all honest working American Citizens - we need to make Trump look bad.


What is R2P?

Why do you keep making shit up?




I know right? And they think it is viewed as intelligent instead of as the bullshit it is. It's like a road map to those who are dominated by their mental illness.

Like X marks the spot. Here is a very sick individual.


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Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not a "free press", it's a "bought and paid for" press.

Meanwhile, you have totally ignored the REAL destruction wrought by Obama and Bush. How typical. You lack rationality ... (rationality- the ability to ratio/ compare relative size). How does the actual destruction of nations .... with it attendant loss of life and limb ... compare to the rhetorical "destruction" of NATO or "free trade"? Did anyone get killed? Was infrastructure destroyed? IMHO one event is clearly of much lesser importance that the other.



This.

Meanwhile...

One of the other threads here have turned into a "human rights" circle jerk.

Welcome back Reaverfan.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 8:55 AM

JJ


Breitbart traffic declines for seventh straight month

In May, Breitbart registered 6.4 million unique visitors, according to comScore, compared to 12.1 million in May 2017 and 13.7 million as recently as November.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/16/breitbart-traffic-declining-
trump-bannon-649571


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Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Yeah. Probably in line with the decrease in memberships of Vox, Motherjones and Buzzfeed too.

Nobody really gives a shit anymore.

I wonder if that's good or bad news for Democrats? Guess we'll find out in November.


Either way, we all lose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:10 AM

JJ




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Saturday, June 16, 2018 11:40 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Probably in line with the decrease in memberships of Vox, Motherjones and Buzzfeed too.

Nobody really gives a shit anymore.

I wonder if that's good or bad news for Democrats? Guess we'll find out in November.


Either way, we all lose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

How long ago was Breitbart killed?

When Soros finally stopped bulldozing piles of cash into Air America, it vanished instantly, with nobody noticing.

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