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Russian internet trolls are trained to spread propaganda in three-person teams

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Wednesday, December 12, 2018 12:09 PM

REAVERFAN


Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.

The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com


This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.

So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?

We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.

Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.

There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?

Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...

Well, you get it.

These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.

It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.










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Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:13 PM

WISHIMAY

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Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:58 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.

The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com


This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.

So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?

We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.

Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.

There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?

Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...

Well, you get it.

These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.

It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.




^ I won’t believe any of that until I read it at Zerohedge.

I love how we went from, “Mexico will pay for the wall!” to, “I’ll shut down our own government if I don’t get my wall!” This f@cking guy...

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Thursday, December 13, 2018 7:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Go back into hiding you Antifa piece of shit. Even CNN is calling you a left wing violent fringe group.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:06 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go back into hiding you Antifa piece of shit. Even CNN is calling you a left wing violent fringe group.



I serched the entire CNN output for this yir.

No mention uv reaverfan at all. Plus, your statement makes no sens to begin with - reaverfan iz an individual, not a group.

And therez that anti fa thing agen! Wuts with you man? Fa haz it coming after all the crap its been spewing!

The only sens I can make out uv your post iz that Reaverz are a violent group living on the frinj uv the Verse, but thats clearly not wut you wer tokking about.

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Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:14 PM

JO753

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1st paragraf frum the article:
Quote:

Employees at Russia's Internet Research center work for 12 hours a day in 3-person "teams" spreading Kremlin propaganda online, acccording to a former employee interviewed by Radio Free Europe.


Odd typo makes it thru! All hail the NQaLF REVOLQsUN!

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Friday, December 14, 2018 3:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go back into hiding you Antifa piece of shit. Even CNN is calling you a left wing violent fringe group.



I serched the entire CNN output for this yir.

No mention uv reaverfan at all. Plus, your statement makes no sens to begin with - reaverfan iz an individual, not a group.

And therez that anti fa thing agen! Wuts with you man? Fa haz it coming after all the crap its been spewing!

The only sens I can make out uv your post iz that Reaverz are a violent group living on the frinj uv the Verse, but thats clearly not wut you wer tokking about.

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Reaverfan has never hidden the fact that he's Antifa.

Why don't you try looking up Antifa on CNN instead of reaverfan, that way you don't have to further waste either of our time with your idiocy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, December 14, 2018 12:45 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.

The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com


This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.

So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?

We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.

Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.

There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?

Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...

Well, you get it.

These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.

It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.




RF - been noticing that here as well. I'll see a talking point floated elsewhere on the web and then I'll see it here. I guess we have some people who are insiders, maybe?

Another "guidance for idiots"


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Friday, December 14, 2018 1:59 PM

THG


Yep, we have three of our own. Comrades Sig kiki and jack.

T



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Friday, December 14, 2018 2:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


I'm a Nazi, idiot. I can't be Russian.

Read a book.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:34 AM

THG


kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.

We've seen as many as 36 or so indicted with guilty pleas and jail time in Mueller's attempt to clean house. Comrade kiki and her few cronies post as though none of that reflects back onto Trump. He is now being investigated up the yazoo and the democrats haven't even started yet. This doesn't even include his corrupt cabinet members.

Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.

T



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Sunday, December 16, 2018 11:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Democrats haven't even started yet, huh?

It's been two years, and tons of constant re-affirmations for you clowns that Trump is going to go down on an almost daily basis.


Your boy Macron seems to be doing a hell of a lot worse right now.

https://punchng.com/macrons-ratings-fall-further-after-month-of-protes
ts
/

I believe your words were something along the lines of "the good guys won" and you expressed your thanks towards the people of France.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FOR THE RECORD
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.

The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com


This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.

So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?

We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.

Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.

There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?

Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...

Well, you get it.

These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.

It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.



Thankfully, REAVERFAN has managed to collect all of this idiocy into one conveniently-labeled thread.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FOR THE RECORD

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:



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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FOR THE RECORD
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Yep, we have three of our own. Comrades Sig kiki and jack.

T





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Those 3-person teams?

We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.

Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts?

Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?

I can picture THEM sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:06 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Those 3-person teams?

We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.

Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts? Which three people have revealed almost NOTHING of their personal history?

What I see here is a desperate attempt to bury inconvenient facts with ad-hominem, strawmanning, libelous personal attacks. I can picture them sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters." - Trump

It makes no difference what Trump does, he won’t be convicted of anything while he is President, with one exception: Trump shooting Mitch McConnell in front of the entire Senate might get Trump removed from office, but if Trump shot Senator Ted Cruz, the Senate would be okay with it.



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Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, what does that have to do with anything in this thread? WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU ENDLESSLY SPEW ANTI-TRUMP POSTS NONSTOP, and (presumably) antiSIGNY, antiKIKI, antiSIX posts because you IMAGINE that we are those "Trump supporters" who would stand behind him under any circumstances.

I have NEVER said that Trump is smart, or good, or even stable. I have called him a "loose cannon" many, many times ... maybe you didn't think that through? Maybe you didn't realize that I knew what that meant, and that I meant what I said? Morally, I put him only slightly behind Hillary in terms of corruption, simply because he didn't have years in office to practice corruption - like Hillary and Bill did. I've posted that as well. Meanwhile you endlessly tell us how you hate Americans and democracy.

So thanks for YOUR effort to bury inconvenient facts.

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:31 PM

THG


The nuts are loose again.

T



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Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
The nuts are loose again.

T





Yes, I noticed.


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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Those 3-person teams?

We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.

Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts?

Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?

I can picture THEM sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:07 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?



JSF, Kiki, Whozit. And why do you want to know, Miss big nosey?

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:35 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ...

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:52 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ...



Yeah we know. Hence the name of the thread comrade.

T



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Sunday, December 16, 2018 3:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ... -SIGNY

Yeah we know. Hence the name of the thread comrade. -THUGR



I know about KIKI and JSF from their posts. But you're another one of those posters who have revealed almost nothing of themselves. Why is that, comrade?


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Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Those 3-person teams?

We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.

Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts?

Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?

I can picture THEM sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .



Yup. The OP wears literal masks in real life.

T and G have no personality outside of their hatred for Trump and general malignancy. It seems they have little to do with life other than follow others who share their feelings.

All three of them are unable to make a post without

A) posting about Trump.

B) insulting somebody else here.

C) both of the above.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:20 PM

THG


Ah, is someone feeling sorry for themselves again?

T



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Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol. No.

Just laughing about how clueless you ultralibs in here are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, December 16, 2018 11:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


BTW, I see the Three Caballeros have all showed up for their very own thread!

Way to go, guys! Next time, try to keep SOME level of separation if you want to seem like independent actors.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, December 17, 2018 6:18 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Russia’s Pro-Trump Campaign Used Every Major Social Media Platform

“All of the messaging clearly sought to benefit the Republican Party — and specifically Donald Trump,” notes the report that will be released later this week.

The Washington Post got its hands on the study compiled for the Senate Intelligence Committee that describes in detail Russia’s extensive efforts to help get President Donald Trump elected.

The report was carried out by Oxford University’s Computational Propaganda Project and network analysis firm Graphika.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/russias-pro-trump-disinfor
mation-campaign-used-every-major-social-media-platform.html


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Monday, December 17, 2018 6:40 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ...



Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???

Do tell!

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Monday, December 17, 2018 6:44 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All three of them are unable to make a post without

A) posting about Trump.

B) insulting somebody else here.

C) both of the above.



It's great to see that you continue to be wrong all the time.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51062&p=5

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Monday, December 17, 2018 7:32 AM

JO753

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I see it az they are just doing their job, so dont get mean about it. Life woud be boring without conflict. This forum iz no exeption.

Watch the old Get Smart showz. Control vs Kaos.

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Monday, December 17, 2018 7:48 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I see it az they are just doing their job, so dont get mean about it. Life woud be boring without conflict. This forum iz no exeption.

Watch the old Get Smart showz. Control vs Kaos.




I believe one of the greatest joys of Life is in the pursuit of greater Knowledge and Understanding, and you can never have that without the Truth. It's like a mathematical problem in which you can never find the correct answer if you lie/fudge the numbers over and over. You end up going no where. Life's too short to lie (for some of us) and understand nothing. Why do it? Trump is the greatest affront to Truth, Progress and Understanding that we have ever had in this country imho. The only saving grace is to see so many people react and reject him and his idiot followers, and take actions to get rid of him. Yes, that sounds a bit pompous and silly but I believe it anyway.

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Monday, December 17, 2018 8:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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It's comical how delusional you guys are.

What I don't get is that JO is actually a extremely smart guy, and we used to get along great many years back.

I can't figure out why somebody as intelligent as he is has drank so much of the KoolAid that he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.


Dude. Stop watching CNN/MSNBC so much. If you look at my Russia! Russia! Russia! thread, you'll see a download link to Gallup and a poll that came out in June of this year that shows that less than 1% of the people in this country are buying into the Russian propaganda.

That means, pretty much only the people who watch those "news" networks every night are the ones who give it any thought at all.

You're not "enlightened". You're one of the very small demographic in the country who's being manipulated by people who are telling you what you want to hear because you hate Trump so much.

All that ad revenue you guys are allowing them to pull in is paying those ungodly salaries those idiot talking heads make.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, December 17, 2018 8:40 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I see it az they are just doing their job, so dont get mean about it. Life woud be boring without conflict. This forum iz no exeption.

Watch the old Get Smart showz. Control vs Kaos.




I believe one of the greatest joys of Life is in the pursuit of greater Knowledge and Understanding, and you can never have that without the Truth. It's like a mathematical problem in which you can never find the correct answer if you lie/fudge the numbers over and over. You end up going no where. Life's too short to lie (for some of us) and understand nothing. Why do it? Trump is the greatest affront to Truth, Progress and Understanding that we have ever had in this country imho. The only saving grace is to see so many people react and reject him and his idiot followers, and take actions to get rid of him. Yes, that sounds a bit pompous and silly but I believe it anyway.

Where I am from, the Texans who approve of Trump are passionate believers in their falsehoods, the untruths being sold by Trump such as there need be nothing done about the greenhouse gas effect, for example. Trump approval runs at 43% across the country, much higher in Texas.

Opposed (fight is too strong and energetic a word) to falsehoods of that fiery 43% are a bunch of "don't knows" and "luke-warms", most who aren't particularly passionate about truth nor will they fight against the nonsense and lies of the fiery 43%. I think the fiery 43% will have their way because they have excellent attendance at elections, while their opposition remain lukewarm about voting, at least for most elections.

America is as unstable as a canoe and that 43%, strong believers in falsehoods, is more than enough to capsize America and dump all of us into the water. And they won't become truth believers and seekers after Trump. They will find another liar to support.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 17, 2018 11:08 AM

THG


Senate report finds millions of social media posts by Russians aimed at helping Trump, GOP

WASHINGTON – The Senate released Monday a pair of reports that found Russia engaged in an all-out social media campaign on Donald Trump's behalf during the 2016 election and continued to support him after he took office.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/russia-social-
media-senate-report/2334382002
/

tick tock

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Monday, December 17, 2018 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Senate report finds millions of social media posts by Russians aimed at helping Trump, GOP

WASHINGTON – The Senate released Monday a pair of reports that found Russia engaged in an all-out social media campaign on Donald Trump's behalf during the 2016 election and continued to support him after he took office.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/russia-social-
media-senate-report/2334382002
/

tick tock

T

The bad part is NOT that Putin helped Trump. Trump voters could truthfully say that he has no control over Russians. The bad part is that Trump lied his head off about his connections to Putin, connections that Putin could use against Trump, if the connections ever became known. Mueller’s Office is now investigating the hypothesis that Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates participated in a massive election fraud, through five interlocking conspiracies — arguably the worst set of crimes against the United States in its history. It’s been obvious that Donald Trump has been acting in a weird way towards America’s adversary, Russia. But until recently, the miscellaneous bits and pieces of the Trump-Russia jigsaw puzzle didn’t fit together in any coherent way.

More at www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-ho
ld-over-trump/#f32ba0a48f68


Trump voters won't believe it, at least not until Vladimir Putin is sworn in as a witness at Trump's trial. Who thinks Putin can be subpoenaed? Putin will never testify and so Trump voters will never believe in Trump's election fraud. But Putin might make a public statement from Moscow about helping Trump. Trump does not want that to happen. He will try to do whatever it takes to keep Putin from ratting on Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 17, 2018 12:37 PM

THG


Russian Effort to Influence 2016 Election Targeted African-Americans

The Russian influence campaign on social media in the 2016 election made an extraordinary effort to target African-Americans, used an array of tactics to try to suppress turnout among Democratic voters and unleashed a blizzard of posts on Instagram that rivaled or exceeded its Facebook operations, according to a report produced for the Senate Intelligence Committee.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russian-effort-to-influence-20
16-election-targeted-african-americans/ar-BBR4R7Y


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Monday, December 17, 2018 12:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ... - SIGNY

Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
Do tell!- GSTRING



Perhaps reading with comprehension is not your strong suit? I answered that already ...

Quote:

I know about KIKI and JSF from their posts. But you're another one of those posters who have revealed almost nothing of themselves. Why is that, comrade?




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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, December 17, 2018 1:48 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ... - SIGNY

Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
Do tell!- GSTRING



Perhaps reading with comprehension is not your strong suit? I answered that already ...

Quote:

I know about KIKI and JSF from their posts. But you're another one of those posters who have revealed almost nothing of themselves. Why is that, comrade?






I'm just suppose to believe you because you say so? Sorry toots, that's not enough. I have learned a great deal from your posts as well: you're consistently full of sh*t.

You know him so well, what do you know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???

And don't think I'm not guessing you are waiting for a PM from him to inform you so you can cya.

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Monday, December 17, 2018 2:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I'm just suppose to believe you because you say so?- GSTRING
No, you're supposed to read their posts and remember what they posted about themselves. If you didn't or you can't, that's your problem.

Yanno, we DO chat about things in other threads. Maybe if you stopped being a deep state troll and got your ideology untwisted you might actually deal with people here as people, and not as enemy targets.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, December 17, 2018 6:32 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I believe one of the greatest joys of Life is in the pursuit of greater Knowledge and Understanding, and you can never have that without the Truth.... Yes, that sounds a bit pompous and silly but I believe it anyway.



Not pompous or silly at all. Clear & untainted I say!

If you no the truth, you can spot the bad guyz eazily. They are the wunz hoo do not value their credibility, insted relying on the gullibilty uv otherz.

Witness Fox Newz, Republicanz, Donald Trump, Vlad Putin. Pik any corrupt organization, autocrat or con man and look at their liez. Its their favorite wepon.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

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Monday, December 17, 2018 6:42 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What I don't get is that JO is actually a extremely smart guy, and we used to get along great many years back.



Wuduyu mean "used to"?

Quote:

he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.


No I dont. A bot iz software. I beleev youre a real guy sumwhere.

Quote:

Dude. Stop watching CNN/MSNBC so much. If you look at my Russia! Russia! Russia! thread, you'll see a download link to Gallup and a poll that came out in June of this year that shows that less than 1% of the people in this country are buying into the Russian propaganda.


Can you see wich colum that paragraf puts you in, referensing my reply to The Captain? Pollz are not facts.

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Monday, December 17, 2018 7:06 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Opposed (fight is too strong and energetic a word) to falsehoods of that fiery 43% are a bunch of "don't knows" and "luke-warms", most who aren't particularly passionate about truth nor will they fight against the nonsense and lies of the fiery 43%. I think the fiery 43% will have their way because they have excellent attendance at elections, while their opposition remain lukewarm about voting, at least for most elections.



I hav been a member uv The Skeptics Society Forum sins it started in 2005. I hoped that their fundamental premis woud make them amenable to NQaLF and they woud join the revolution.

Didnt happen.

Rather than fiting agenst stoopidity, liez, bad lojik, superstition and ignorans, they are content to ridicule the victimz. Its almost az if they do not want to take any steps to reduse jeneral gullibility bekuz they woud hav less fun if they sekseeded.

Quote:

America is as unstable as a canoe and that 43%, strong believers in falsehoods, is more than enough to capsize America and dump all of us into the water.


Too true. And its much worse, really.

A single dum sailor can sink a battle ship. Make him the captain insted and its only a matter uv time til he duz it. (see Bush jr., 2008) Make him the ajent uv the enemy and youre on your way to the bottom.




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Monday, December 17, 2018 7:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.- SIX
No I dont. A bot iz software. I beleev youre a real guy sumwhere.- JO

This is why I'm so aghast at how far from reality some of the peepl here are (That means you too, JO.) I know who I am. I feel like I know who SIX is. With all of the personal information that we've posted online ... our current activities, problems, projects, etc ... JO, it's amazing to me that you could ignore all that, conveniently wipe it out of your memory, and bury your head firmly into delusion.

JO, I hate to be pointed but ... what did you think SIX's drunk posts were? What do you think MY posts were from 10 years ago? Do you think, seriously, that ANYone would waste that much thought, planning, and effort on a no-account website (with apologies to Haken) with so few views?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Monday, December 17, 2018 8:51 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


A valid argument.

The thing iz that we really dont no hoo most uv us here really are. Aside from myself, it woud at least take sum digging to attach a real name to anybody here and most are not aksessable without sum co-operation from Haken or sum actual hacking.

Then therez the possibility that you arent the orijinal account holderz - that you hijacked them sumhow.

I see that all the time on fasebook. I grant a frend request, go to their paje and it haz porn piks going back a few weeks. Further down, with a big time gap, its just sum ordinary person posting wedding piks, carz, family etc. and therez usually not much uv that. It appearz that sumwun didnt care much about the account and abandoned it.

Bottom line, Sig, if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck, dont quack like a duck.

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Monday, December 17, 2018 9:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Bottom line, Sig, if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck, dont quack like a duck. "

And you're the blind man shooting at the duck you can't see.

BTW - if you don't know FOR SURE someone is a Russian Troll, it's best to not call them one. That's libel, for which you can be held legally and financially responsible.




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Monday, December 17, 2018 9:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck ...
You just called yourself a blind man. So, don't be a blind man.

1) Read my posts from ten years ago. I haven't changed THAT much where you can't see that I'm the same person as before. The biggest change came when I decided that nationalism was the best path towards freedom, because centralized power is so much more out of reach of the ordinary person. But that was long before Trump.

You want to see what I thought about immigration in early 2016? Here it is
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=19153&mid=282729

How I felt about society's effect on ppl's psychology? (2010)
SMILE OR DIE
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=41464

Ecological collapse?
THE WILY E COYOTE MOMENT (2012)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53215

Back when we used to be able to DISCUSS things, before ppl became infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome (2016)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60332&mid=1007560


2) I'm not posting FOR Russia, and it's only your hysteria/ paranoia that makes you think so. Seriously dude, you mistake my criticism OF YOU for something else. What I'm really for is AMERICA's interests. Frankly, I think that thinking that we can, or should, stick our nose into anyone else's business except ours just sucks our economy dry and shreds our Constitution.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:39 AM

REAVERFAN


You failed to mention your constant posting of Russian propaganda.

The IRA and Political Polarization in the United States
https://comprop.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/ira-political-polarization/

The Disinformation Report
https://www.newknowledge.com/disinforeport

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