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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:01 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:58 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:20 PM
Quote: What Is Cultured Butter? September 23, 2013 // by Kara Young Facebook Twitter Pinterest Email Cultured butter is made in the European-style with pasteurized, fresh cream in a churn just like regular sweet cream butter, but with one additional, very important step. How it's made After pasteurization, our expert butter makers carefully add live bacterial cultures to our fresh Vermont cream. The cream rests in a vat, where it thickens and develops wonderfully tangy flavor notes of buttermilk and hazelnuts. This is the source of the flavor difference between cultured butter and sweet cream, or American-style butter. After the fermentation, the cream is churned into butter. Making cultured butter is much like making wine, you want to ferment your cream like your grapes, slowly, to produce the best aromas. The longer you culture — the better. The hallmark of Vermont Creamery’s cultured butter is its butterfat content, which is higher than the American legal standard of 80%. We craft two formats of cultured butter: 82% sticks and 86% rolls and baskets.
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:21 PM
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:51 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Okay, prolly an enduring point of curiosity for people interested in their health. High carb/ low fat? High protein? Low carb/ high fat? GMOs? Organic, or not? Grazing, or limited time-window eating? Low salt? Unrestricted salt? Plant oils or full-fat dairy? Complicated by the fact that humans are NOT THE SAME. Some will do better on one kind of diet than someone else. *******
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 6:05 PM
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 6:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Okay, prolly an enduring point of curiosity for people interested in their health. High carb/ low fat? High protein? Low carb/ high fat? GMOs? Organic, or not? Grazing, or limited time-window eating? Low salt? Unrestricted salt? Plant oils or full-fat dairy? Complicated by the fact that humans are NOT THE SAME. Some will do better on one kind of diet than someone else. *******Prefer non-GMO, if can be avoided. Organic is preferred, but sometimes can't find. "high protein" seems to be inconsistent meaning. Normally I don't need with current usage. no-salt. Full Dairy except some cheeses (not american cheese or other cheese food) eating when available, or when hungry. I do have a Diet plan which I call The Transition Diet. Does anybody recall if I have already discussed or explained it here?
Wednesday, November 11, 2020 6:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Okay, prolly an enduring point of curiosity for people interested in their health. High carb/ low fat? High protein? Low carb/ high fat? GMOs? Organic, or not? Grazing, or limited time-window eating? Low salt? Unrestricted salt? Plant oils or full-fat dairy? Complicated by the fact that humans are NOT THE SAME. Some will do better on one kind of diet than someone else. *******Prefer non-GMO, if can be avoided. Organic is preferred, but sometimes can't find. "high protein" seems to be inconsistent meaning. Normally I don't need with current usage. no-salt. Full Dairy except some cheeses (not american cheese or other cheese food) eating when available, or when hungry. I do have a Diet plan which I call The Transition Diet. Does anybody recall if I have already discussed or explained it here? No explanation that I recall. What IS the transition diet? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:44 PM
Thursday, November 19, 2020 4:36 PM
Quote: The Transition Diet was originally intended to bridge the vast differences between the standard American Diet (coffee, donut, cigarette for breakfast, skip lunch, McDonald's for dinner) and most of the specialty of focused Diet Plans, which have more structure and generally assume a better schedule than most folk have. But so many people (mostly women) started losing so much weight just from it, and they never bothered moving on to the other Diet Plan they had intended. Let me see if I can recall all of the details. I will likely forget a few. The general way this works is that it is intended to make a person wake up hungry, so they will eat a large breakfast - and then have the whole day to burn off all the calories. Lunch should also not be skimpy. If you wake up hungry, you probably lost weight while you slept. If you wake up not hungry, your probably packed on some fat cells while you slept. For many sudden dieters, the shocking transition of going to bed hungry defeats their plans of dieting. If somebody cannot get to sleep at night (like due to hunger), this destabilizes the body metabolism, and is also unhealthy. A. Breakfast. Eat what you want, as much as you want. If you eat a whole cake, fine. Do that enough times, you will tire of cake. This both takes away the denial problem, and helps you realize you really don't like cake/chocolate/fudge/donuts/etc THAT much. B. Same. Your lunch break may restrict how much time you can spend anyhow. C. Determine your bedtime. More than 4 hours before you go to bed, same as A & B. If you eat pasta, suggest you do some dancing or exercise afterwards. But most working folk are not going to be able to have a big dinner and still clear 4 hours before bed. Others who do are likely not looking at Diet Plans to manage their bodies. For the midnight cravings, fresh fruits or veggies may be inconvenient or impractical. Get some canned items you can talk yourself into - peaches, oranges, beets, whatever seems interesting, keep them in your cupbord during this Diet. D. 4 hours before bedtime. Only the following items, as much of them as you want. This includes midnight snacking, cravings, nervous/anxious hunger. 1. Any salad except pasta. Lettuce, chicken salad, egg salad, fruit salad, potato salad, etc. Any toppings you want on your lettuce salad. 2. Any fruits, fresh or canned. 3. Any Vegetables, fresh or canned, cooked. 4. Any nuts, including cashews. 5. Any potato form, except chips (deep fried). Baked, hashed, scalloped, whatever. Any toppings on them. 6. Popcorn, with any toppings. 7. Any soups. 8. Any meats as sole entrees. Meat dishes with pasta, bread, etc. not included. Now, obviously, your romantic dinners will not fit this schedule. Any reasonable person knows that skipping one or two nights per week of your diet will not help you lose week rapidly, but your results are in accordance with your adherence. Not too complicated. The idea of these items before going to sleep is that they provide nutrients, vitamins, minerals, some protein, but not excessive calories just before you become dormant and unable to burn them off. If you wake up hungry, you were successful. The heavier stuff needs 4 hours or so to burn off or pass through - you don't want cake and frosting sitting in your gut while you sleep all night. Popcorn and potatoes are included because they generally fill you up faster than you can really stuff yourself with. I hope I remembered it all. Does that make sense?
Thursday, November 19, 2020 4:42 PM
Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:20 PM
Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: The Transition Diet was originally intended to bridge the vast differences between the standard American Diet (coffee, donut, cigarette for breakfast, skip lunch, McDonald's for dinner) and most of the specialty of focused Diet Plans, which have more structure and generally assume a better schedule than most folk have. But so many people (mostly women) started losing so much weight just from it, and they never bothered moving on to the other Diet Plan they had intended. Let me see if I can recall all of the details. I will likely forget a few. The general way this works is that it is intended to make a person wake up hungry, so they will eat a large breakfast - and then have the whole day to burn off all the calories. Lunch should also not be skimpy. If you wake up hungry, you probably lost weight while you slept. If you wake up not hungry, your probably packed on some fat cells while you slept. For many sudden dieters, the shocking transition of going to bed hungry defeats their plans of dieting. If somebody cannot get to sleep at night (like due to hunger), this destabilizes the body metabolism, and is also unhealthy. A. Breakfast. Eat what you want, as much as you want. If you eat a whole cake, fine. Do that enough times, you will tire of cake. This both takes away the denial problem, and helps you realize you really don't like cake/chocolate/fudge/donuts/etc THAT much. B. Same. Your lunch break may restrict how much time you can spend anyhow. C. Determine your bedtime. More than 4 hours before you go to bed, same as A & B. If you eat pasta, suggest you do some dancing or exercise afterwards. But most working folk are not going to be able to have a big dinner and still clear 4 hours before bed. Others who do are likely not looking at Diet Plans to manage their bodies. For the midnight cravings, fresh fruits or veggies may be inconvenient or impractical. Get some canned items you can talk yourself into - peaches, oranges, beets, whatever seems interesting, keep them in your cupbord during this Diet. D. 4 hours before bedtime. Only the following items, as much of them as you want. This includes midnight snacking, cravings, nervous/anxious hunger. 1. Any salad except pasta. Lettuce, chicken salad, egg salad, fruit salad, potato salad, etc. Any toppings you want on your lettuce salad. 2. Any fruits, fresh or canned. 3. Any Vegetables, fresh or canned, cooked. 4. Any nuts, including cashews. 5. Any potato form, except chips (deep fried). Baked, hashed, scalloped, whatever. Any toppings on them. 6. Popcorn, with any toppings. 7. Any soups. 8. Any meats as sole entrees. Meat dishes with pasta, bread, etc. not included. Now, obviously, your romantic dinners will not fit this schedule. Any reasonable person knows that skipping one or two nights per week of your diet will not help you lose week rapidly, but your results are in accordance with your adherence. Not too complicated. The idea of these items before going to sleep is that they provide nutrients, vitamins, minerals, some protein, but not excessive calories just before you become dormant and unable to burn them off. If you wake up hungry, you were successful. The heavier stuff needs 4 hours or so to burn off or pass through - you don't want cake and frosting sitting in your gut while you sleep all night. Popcorn and potatoes are included because they generally fill you up faster than you can really stuff yourself with. I hope I remembered it all. Does that make sense?
Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:58 PM
BRENDA
Thursday, November 19, 2020 6:22 PM
Quote:It is not really a volume thing, but a schedule thing. And restriction during the key hours. The rest is to reduce anxiety.
Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:35 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, November 20, 2020 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:It is not really a volume thing, but a schedule thing. And restriction during the key hours. The rest is to reduce anxiety.
Friday, November 20, 2020 4:08 PM
Friday, November 20, 2020 5:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/calcification#arteries Researchers suggest that 90% of men and 67% of women over 70 years of age have coronary artery calcification. https://www.news-medical.net/health/Calcification-of-the-Arteries.aspx Arterial calcification is a gradual and progressive process that is seen in most people after the 6th decade of life. very little at this site https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-stenosis/expert-answers/aortic-valve-calcification/faq-20058525 Calcification and stenosis generally affects people older than age 65.
Friday, November 20, 2020 5:39 PM
Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:53 PM
Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/arti cles/calcification#arteries Researchers suggest that 90% of men and 67% of women over 70 years of age have coronary artery calcification. https://www.news-medical.net/health/Ca lcification-of-the-Arteries.aspx Arterial calcification is a gradual and progressive process that is seen in most people after the 6th decade of life. very little at this site https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-co nditions/aortic-stenosis/expert-answers/aortic-valve-calcification/faq-20058525 Calcification and stenosis generally affects people older than age 65.
Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: What is the relationship between calcification of the arteries and hardening of the arteries caused by plaque, which then causes High Blood Pressure? I know Niacin can prevent plaque build-up, and therefore reduce HBP, but does calcification work the same way? Can calcification be addressed through exercise, fitness?
Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:47 PM
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Monday, November 23, 2020 2:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: But, taking a page from JSF's playbook, I've decided to save half of my dinner for bfast the following day, shifting more of my food from PM to AM. Still working on regularizing my eating schedule, tho. It's been chaotic for YEARS (just like my sleep schedule) because of one family health crisis or another (including my own) and it will be a while before I fully institute some sort of regular habit. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Monday, November 23, 2020 3:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I find I can NOT get to sleep without eating something before bed. It's something I've noticed since I was in my 20's, so, whatever it is, it's been going on a long time. I need to figure out what that should be - that'll trigger whatever it needs to trigger so I can sleep, but not be a calorie bomb. So far, I figured out a cup of warm broth does not do it.
Monday, November 23, 2020 3:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: JSF - there's a lot I haven't kept up on regarding arterial plaque (which leads to calcification), and a lot I've forgotten. But I doesn't just settle on arterial walls like snow on a sidewalk, deposits end up in lumps that actually grow and invade the CVS tissues, from the lining of the CVS walls (the intima) and into the surrounding CVS wall itself (the media). Last I knew, a predictor of CVS 'event' was the thickness of your arterial walls (media) as measured in your carotid artery by ultrasound, but I don't know the basis for that, or if it's a theory-less useful observation.
Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:20 PM
Quote:I am talking about non-time release niacin, which gives a flush.
Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:24 PM
Quote:A low-fat, high-carb diet has been the largest public health experiment in history. As the world gets ever fatter, we MUST rethink 25 Nov, 2020 07:56 By Malcolm Kendrick, doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England. His blog can be read here < https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/> and his book, 'Doctoring Data – How to Sort Out Medical Advice from Medical Nonsense,' is available here < http://www.doctoringdata.co.uk/>. New research suggests that four billion people globally will be overweight in 2050. This trend can be traced back to the ‘low-fat, high-carb’ guidelines first issued in the 70s, and should prompt a major U-turn on dietary advice. A recent report < https://www.thedailystar.net/world/news/4b-overweight-people-2050-1997501> from the Potsdam Institute < https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/home> predicts that by 2050 there will be four billion overweight people in the world, with one-and-a-half billion of them obese. This is not entirely surprising. The world has been getting fatter for years, and things do not seem to be slowing down. This Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) graph < https://www.oecd.org/els/health-systems/obesityandtheeconomicsofpreventionfitnotfat-unitedstateskeyfacts.htm>, which looks at the rise in overweight adults in a number of different countries, shows that the trend seems inexorably upward. Why is this happening? There are undoubtedly a number of factors at play here. Socio-economic status plays a significant part in many countries. Those with poorer educational attainment are more likely to be overweight, an association that is much stronger in women than men, for reasons that are not clear. It is also fascinating to look at where obesity levels are highest < https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/obesity-overview.aspx> in the US, essentially in the poorer southern States. When you analyse the data, it is clear that obesity is not evenly distributed and there is a very clear difference between rich and poor. Why? That is probably beyond the scope of this article. Instead I am going to consider something else that I think is having a significant impact: dietary guidelines. At one time, there was no such thing as a dietary guideline. The first was one was published in 1976, in the US. The UK followed suit, then much of the rest of the world. Before this, people ate pretty much whatever they wanted. Imagine that! There was no one to tell you what you should, or should not, eat. How on Earth did they survive? The guidelines were not developed in an attempt to reduce the rates of obesity, which was not considered a major problem at the time. They were designed to protect against heart disease, which was the major killer. It still is, although the rates have fallen. The guidelines themselves promoted a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. Prior to 1976, there was not really a major problem with weight or obesity in the US. Then came the guidelines, and from that point onwards, things changed, as the rising obesity < https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity> levels in the US demonstrated. In the UK, there were no dietary guidelines until 1980, at which point exactly the same upturn in obesity occurred as was seen in the US. There was an immediate uptick, then an unstoppable rise. As an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) noted < https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2564564>, “Beginning in the 1970s, the US government and major professional nutrition organizations recommended that individuals in the United States eat a low-fat/high-carbohydrate diet, launching arguably the largest public health experiment in history. Throughout the ensuing 40 years, the prevalence of obesity and diabetes increased several-fold, even as the proportion of fat in the US diet decreased by 25 percent.” The article went on to say that “a comprehensive examination of this massive public health failure has not been conducted.” Has this been a case of cause and effect? One GP in the UK, Dr. David Unwin, has done a great deal of research in this area. He has managed to reverse type-2 diabetes in very nearly 50 percent of his patients by putting them on a diet which is the exact opposite of that promoted by the dietary guidelines. It is high in fat, and low on carbohydrates. Not only did he reverse diabetes, he also achieved significant and long-lasting weight loss. A report on his findings stated < https://www.practicaldiabetes.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2016/03/Low-carbohydrate-diet-to-achieve-weight-loss-and-improve-HbA1c-in-type-2-diabetes-and-pre-diabetes-experience-from-one-general-practice.pdf>: “It was observed that a low carbohydrate diet achieved substantial weight loss in all patients and brought about normalization of blood glucose control in 16 out of 18 patients.” In a more recent and bigger < https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2020/11/02/bmjnph-2020-000072> study on nearly 200 patients, he achieved a combined weight loss of 1.9 metric tons (1,900kg) in weight. There are reasons why a diet high in carbohydrates – sugar, bread, pasta, soft sugary drinks, crisps, chips and suchlike – can drive weight gain. These reasons are based on the fact that carbohydrate consumption drives insulin release. This, in turn, promotes energy storage, and traps energy in fat cells. The higher insulin then causes blood sugar levels to fall, driving hunger, leading to more food consumption. So, people become trapped in a cycle of eating and hunger. It has to be acknowledged, though, that there is heated medical debate in this area, to put it mildly. However, in my opinion, the evidence is pretty overwhelming. The levels of overweightness and obesity remained pretty much flat for decades. Then, along came the dietary guidelines promoting low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets. And at that point, problems with obesity and type-2 diabetes took off, firstly in the US and then the rest of the world. Researchers such as Dr. David Unwin, who have been brave enough to push back against the guidelines, have had spectacular results by changing the diet to high-fat, low-carb. Time for a major rethink, in my opinion.
Saturday, November 28, 2020 4:35 PM
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Sunday, November 29, 2020 3:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Ate too much when I was out today and paying for it now. Just have that yuck feeling.
Sunday, November 29, 2020 2:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Ate too much when I was out today and paying for it now. Just have that yuck feeling. I know the feeling. Are you a tea drinker? A nice cup of hot tea might do the trick! Or, if you're suffering from indigestions, a TUMS or Rolaids. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Monday, November 30, 2020 3:11 AM
Monday, November 30, 2020 4:40 AM
Monday, November 30, 2020 1:31 PM
Monday, November 30, 2020 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:I am talking about non-time release niacin, which gives a flush. This is the niacin this person was taking. It was SPECIFICALLY compounded as "fast acting" and rx'd specifically to promote flushing. It apparently has NO positive effect on cardiac events altho it raises "good" cholesterol. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Monday, November 30, 2020 5:39 PM
Monday, November 30, 2020 10:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I got the (loose) hibiscus tea from my sister; I don't know where she got it from but the elderberry syrup is from iHerb.com. I make my tea pretty strong: 1/4 to somewhat less than 8 cups water, but then I dilute the tea about half when I pour it into my cup for heating. iHerb prolly has loose hibiscus tea as well; I get my Frontier brand of organic cinnamon sticks for our coffee from there. I've used several different kinds of elderberry syrup from the cheap kind made with glycerol to the organic kind in agave syrup. It doesn't seem to matter which I use, and since taste doesn't mean much to me I use the cheapest kind made with glycerol. I sweeten it with Truvia which is a blend of erythritol, sugar, and stevia. (It's a strong sweetener so 1 t will do for a large cup). Hope this gives you the right info! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
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