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Opioid deaths have been going up because they're now laced with fentanyl(s) and other drugs.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Opioid deaths have been going up because they're now laced with fentanyl, its derivatives (fentanyl(s)), and other drugs. That's one of the things I found out while watching Nightwatch. So I decided to look it up.

Fentanyl(s) are roughly 100X more potent than medical opioids and heroin. They're cheaply manufactured 'overseas', and highly-cut street opioids (also heroin) are boosted with fentanyl(s). But because a small dose is so powerful, overdoing the fentanyl(s)-boost in the opioid(heroin) by even just a little bit can cause many accidental overdoses.

Also, fwiw, there are now so many drugs used to boost opioids, you never know what you're getting. These combo-opioid-mimicking street drugs are more resistant to Narcan, and it requires a far higher Narcan dose to bring people back to the point where they're breathing on their own again.

So while the initial overuse of medical opioids created the addicts, who subsequently turned to street opioids(heroin) when they couldn't get medical opioids anymore, the increased overdose deaths are caused by the adulteration of various street drugs to make them cheaper and get a higher profit.

Increased deaths isn't due to a boost in the number of addicts or an increase in intentional overdoses. It's just due to the fact that sometimes you get a really 'hot' shot.

https://people.com/health/how-fentanyl-became-one-of-the-biggest-cause
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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Opioid deaths have been going up because they're now laced with fentanyl, its derivatives (fentanyl(s)), and other drugs.



And because of 2020 Karen shutdowns.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:58 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


What to say guys? .. dont do drugs, or if you do soemthing at least avoid the hard stuff

LASD deputies arrest man on gun, drug charges in Whittier
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DOJ: 150 people arrested in international darknet opioid probe
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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 6:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I think it was you who posted ... somewhere ... about the levels of drug use in the US, and wanted to know what was at fault.

I couldn't find that post, so I'll reply here.


The drugs are at fault.

The US has a high rate of drug use. So maybe one could blame it on too much money, and not enough opportunity leading to dead end jobs. But the Philippines and other impoverished countries like Uruguay also have major drug problems, so one could blame it on too little money and needing to escape a brutal life. Then again Europe in general also has a high rate of drug use. And NZ, and Iceland ... and ...

Leaving alcohol and nicotine aside for now, since their use as drugs is embedded in many cultures, if you look at drugs today, many are EXTREMELY addictive. Your first use could make you an addict.

Also, just as pharmacological information, part of the addictive process is how QUICKLY drug levels rise in your body not necessarily the absolute levels in your bloodstream. (Absolute levels are related to fatality.) So eating a drug - like say MJ brownies - causes a very slow release of drug into your system, and doing that is less likely to cause addiction. Smoking otoh is just like injecting. Since the lungs have an enormous absorptive surface and direct contact with your capillaries, smoking a drug puts a lot of drug very quickly into your veins, just without a needle. The other factor in how quickly drug levels rise is of course drug concentration. Older strains of MJ for example had about 7% cannabinoids by weight, today's strains are roughly 30% - in fact cannabinoids are so concentrated they'll literally crystallize on the outside of the bud.

When it comes to your first dose creating addiction, that's especially true of the opioid class of drugs, including oxycodone. In the US, due to drug mfg lying (it's non addictive!!) many people got and still get hooked on pain prescriptions, but when the scrips run out, or they need a dosage boost to get their high back, they turn to heroin - which is now increasingly being juiced with fentanyl. And fentanyl is so deadly, as little as an equivalent of 2 grains of salt can kill you. In fact, to boost profits, many heroin suppliers cut the heroin with bulk agents then boost the product with fentanyl. And heroin users are dying as a result, since it's so easy to OD on minuscule amounts of fentanyl.

Then there's crack cocaine, a concentrated and volatilized form of the coca leaf. Originally the raw leaf was chewed, to give people energy when working hard at high altitudes without food. But crack cocaine is concentrated, volatilized, and smoked, which of course causes a powerful addictive high.

But most addicts in the Philippines, Malaysia, Afghanistan etc are now addicted to various forms of methamphetamine (and not heroin or opium as might be expected). So, anyway, I'm not going to specifically go into how each new stimulant iteration is more powerful than the last, making them ever more addictive.


But I think if you see drug use avalanching around the globe across many cultures and economies, and you see drugs being made more powerful, more concentrated, and easier to smoke, all the drug use is the drugs' fault.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2021 7:50 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Number of opioid deaths have 'skyrocketed' throughout pandemic, doctors say
https://www.wyff4.com/article/number-of-opioid-deaths-have-skyrocketed
-throughout-pandemic-doctors-say/37953700


Group of northern B.C. First Nations declare state of emergency over opioid crisis
https://globalnews.ca/news/8326309/northern-bc-first-nations-state-of-
emergency-opioid-crisis
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Opioid Crisis Hits Home, 1,900 Louisiana Citizens Gone
https://kpel965.com/opioid-crisis-hits-home-1900-louisiana-citizens-go
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Overdose deaths involving cocaine or meth have tripled in shadow of opioid crisis
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-10-overdose-deaths-involving-cocai
ne-meth.html


Texas reaches $290 million settlement with Johnson & Johnson in nationwide opioid case
https://www.chron.com/politics/article/paxton-texas-opioid-settlement-
johnson-16566334.php


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Originally posted by 1KIKI: many are EXTREMELY addictive. Your first use could make you an addict.



I think drugs were simply classed for a while in crimes and the addiction and anti-social dangers the drugs pushed on the public, the Class A controlled substances Possession or trafficking of any class. Then you had Class B a less dangerous controlled substances Class B controlled substances were then declared illegal to traffick or posses by local jurisdictions, Laws are different in Canada, the US, France, Japan, Brazil, Aus etc some Class A drugs can be Class B in other nations, some nations are looking to de-criminalize drugs whole other States are changing their Laws. Misuse of Drugs and Naracotic and Drug Trafficking Laws set out separate categories, Class A, Class B, some use other controlled substances Class like 'C'with Class A drugs across each state in the US and there is a general agreement between nations across this planet that 'A' represent those deemed most dangerous, and so carry the harshest punishments.

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Sunday, May 29, 2022 8:30 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


islamics will be joining the drug trafficker business?

Iranian Narco-Jihad against the United States
https://m.news1.co.il/Archive/0026-D-154531-00.html

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Shiite clerics in Iran and Lebanon have ruled that drugs sold to "infidels" in Western countries, and especially to "the great American Satan", are believed to be more effective than war via missiles.


In 2022, President Biden decided that a seductive financial and diplomatic package could persuade the ayatollahs to abandon their 1,400-year-old fanatical and megalomaniacal vision. But the ayatollahs' regime sees every agreement in their talks with the United States as a bonanza to fund their anti-American vision in Latin America as well, as has been the case since they came to power in 1979.

Iranian Narco-Jihad against the United States

"Iranian narco-jihad is being carried out against the West in general and the United States in particular. The Revolutionary Guards of Iran and Hezbollah have set up a global system of drug distribution (and billions of dollars in money laundering) ... Money laundering enables Iran to supply weapons systems to anti-American entities in Latin America ... Iranian airline, Iran Air, has scheduled flights to America Latin, and some of them help to spread the drug .... "

"... Since 9/11, Iran and Hezbollah have been cultivating operational ties with governments (such as Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador) and anti-American organizations in the Cocaine Corridor from the southern tip of South America to Mexico, that is, on the US border. ...

"Many tons of drugs are smuggled into the United States and bring hundreds of millions of dollars into the pockets of anti-American terrorist organizations ... Iran and Hezbollah are collaborating with the Mexican drug cartel, Los Zetas, amounting to $ 200 million a month, and with the help of terrorist bodies and money laundering in West Africa ...

"... Iran-Hezbollah cooperation is similar to a system with delegates between Tehran and Latin America, Africa, Europe and the United States with the help of seemingly legitimate businesses ...

"... Hezbollah's activity is similar to the Gambino crime family (which was one of the leading crime families in New York) on steroids ... Hezbollah is expanding its target bank in the U.S. Sinaloa ...

"Iran and Hezbollah are focusing on strengthening ties with the drug cartels in Mexico and deepening their bases in Latin America. This cooperation creates a very dangerous entity ... Hezbollah's terrorist attack on US soil becomes more real as Iran and Hezbollah expand their bases in Latin America, especially in Mexico. .

"The increase in the number of Arab terrorists on Mexican soil, and the upgrading of their capabilities to integrate into the local population and cross the border into the United States, is a warning sign ... In the US ...

"... Hezbollah has bases in Venezuela and Chile and the organization's roots in Mexico bring it to the doorstep of the United States ..." ... the border area shared by Argentina, Paraguay and Brazil (which is a major source of income for Hezbollah) has become a major infrastructure of Iran and Hezbollah .. The two are assisted by Shiite-Lebanese immigrants who are successful businessmen (especially in the city of Ciudad del Este in Paraguay, which has become a haven for drug smugglers, money launderers, organized crime and Muslim terrorists) ...

"... the fruitful cooperation between Hezbollah and the Mexican drug cartel, Sinaloa, leads to the mining of smuggling tunnels between Mexico and the United States ..."

The bottom line

The above-mentioned conduct of the ayatollahs' regime in Iran, which has been systematic since he came to power in February 1979, contradicts President Biden's premise that the ayatollahs are partners in fair negotiations, persuasive to abandon their religious-fanatical-megalomaniacal vision, and willing to live in bi- Existence in peace with their "destroyed" Arab-Sunni neighbors and with the "infidel" West.

- A misunderstanding that fair negotiations on the one hand and the conduct of the ayatollahs on the other hand constitute a thing and vice versa will lead the US to repeat critical mistakes that brought Ayatollah Khomeini to power in 1979 and led to the signing of the 2015 nuclear deal. In both cases, the United States has given a strong impetus to a terrorist regime that poses a clear and immediate threat to U.S. security at home and abroad.

- The ayatollahs' regime in Iran is a prototype of terrorists biting (or interrupting) the American hand that feeds them.

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Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


At some point, we're just going to have to resign ourselves to Survival of the Fittest.

Part of me thinks the biggest problem with the new wave of drugs is that it doesn't kill people fast enough. I know that sounds evil, but hear me out.

1. Soul-destroying drugs such as these turn these people into drones that would slit their mother's throat for a hit. The longer they live, and the more of them there are, the more of a danger they are to their families and their communities.

2. If people degraded quickly and died so quickly after starting the drugs that it was undeniable to anybody who knew them exactly what killed them, kids would stay the fuck away from these drugs... and even away from low level drugs like weed on the streets that are potentially laced with them too.

Kids are dumb. If you tell a kid not to do something, they're going to do it just to spite you. But if enough people in their lives started dropping like flies quickly because of these new drugs, their sense of self-preservation would kick in and trump the desire to rebel.


I'm drawing from my own experience here. If I knew going into it that cigarette smoking and drinking booze would shorten my life down to only 5 more years or less, I doubt very much I ever would have started either habit when I was a kid. Retirement age seems like forever and a day to a dumb teenager.

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