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And Jayne's a jerk. Yet I totally love him.

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Originally posted by JaynesGirlfriend:
And if it makes my boyfriend smile like that, playing jokes on the doc is just fine with me.

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Originally posted by JaynesGirlfriend:
I didn't actually hate River this episode. She smiled in the face of infinity. In the face of the very thing that caused the Reavers to lose their minds in the first place. Very cool. Now if she'd only learn to use complete sentences.

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Originally posted by Kalimac:
I realize it may be silly to comment on so small a thing, but I love how the VFX shots are done to seem as though they're shot with a camera, just like the rest of the show.

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You have the latex monsters in Buffy and Angel, but this seems like it would be a lot more FX heavy.
Whedon: It is. It is. We've got Radium just going out of their minds, Radium Effects, and doing the best visual effects that I've ever seen on TV. They're better than most movies I've seen and they've done an extraordinary job. Because the whole mission statement of the show is to put you there. It is not to make space something grand and epic that you watched from afar. It is to make it something mundane that is happening to you the way your life happens to you. To that end, we shot most of thing hand held. We tried to make it feel a little bit like somebody happened to have camera and found all these people talking, as opposed to the stately, very controlled kind of filming that I usually do with Buffy and Angel. Radium and Loni Peristere are so great at giving you something that feels messy. So their shots, they find folks late, they'll be following a space ship and lose it and come back and zoom in sort of awkwardly. They've made it look like somebody had a handheld camera on the ground just watching space ships go, instead of the stately perfect shot, then cut to the inside and everything is shaking. It all feels very organic and that's a huge thing for me.

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The Colonel was carrying a Beretta 92 or the Taurus copy. But I suspect the producers gave him a CZ-75 in the scene where he is attacked by the victim. Maybe it was cheaper to drop or they just want to mess with the detail oriented nitpickers.

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Mal: Still carrying that odd sidearm of unknown origin and capabilities.

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Originally posted by BlueBanrigh:
According to my sister they are actually speaking Mandarin (she's learning it right now) and she was laughing at their accents when I made her watch the download from the Train Job (the bar scene).

According to her he was asking for one coffee when he was talking to the bartender.

And the second line she didn't really hear correctly, but it mentioned something about someone not being happy. I'll have to get her to listen to it again.

If someone has the .wav files on line I can get her to listen and translate. She says it's good practice for her.

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Delvo:
No, they're humans, they've just got to be diseased or drugged. They were treated as "fallen" humans in the show, and quotes from JW make it clear that he's avoiding the usual sci-fi silliness of aliens that are amazingly similar to humans living on every other planet. It's a basic premise of this show that humans alone are good enough to make good science fiction and "explore the facets of humanity" that Trek uses aliens that aren't alien for, so therefor it's all about what becomes of the human race after exporing some space and living, alone, on multiple different planets.

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Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:

To be honest, I hope Whedon changes his mind about that element of the series. As I said before, I like the element of western motif. But a sci-fi series without an alien or extra-terrestrial sub-plot and contiual western motif could limit the potential of the series as well as quickly wear thin the interest of some sci-fi fans.

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
If they really knew guns, they'd never put a fancy gas-operated pistol in the hands of thug living on isolated frontier planet.

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Mal: Still carrying that odd sidearm of unknown origin and capabilities.

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Delvo:
To be honest, I hope Whedon changes his mind about that element of the series. As I said before, I like the element of western motif. But a sci-fi series without an alien or extra-terrestrial sub-plot and contiual western motif could limit the potential of the series as well as quickly wear thin the interest of some sci-fi fans.

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Actually some of the most reliable weapons are gas operated. All the Klashnikovs and the US M-1 Garand for example.

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Actually some of the most reliable weapons are gas operated. All the Klashnikovs and the US M-1 Garand for example.

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I was talking about a specific weapon, the Wildey you pointed out earlier. This is an unusual and expensive weapon even in our own time. In the Firefly universe, the cost and availability gap between the Wildey and more standard sidearms would be even more extreme.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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To be honest, I hope Whedon changes his mind about that element of the series. As I said before, I like the element of western motif. But a sci-fi series without an alien or extra-terrestrial sub-plot and contiual western motif could limit the potential of the series as well as quickly wear thin the interest of some sci-fi fans.

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Hello! Frontier planets! Absence of industrial base! It's a basic premise of the show that most people can't afford all the latest technology.

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
...And, like the south during Reconstruction, the Independent worlds would be even further behind than before the war. So no factories to make fancy sidearms and no cash to buy them from the North, I mean the Alliance core worlds.

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Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:
[q]zicsoft:
About that calligraphy: written Japanese uses a lot of Chinese characters. So it's often hard to distinguish writing in the two languages. Here's an interesting page on the subject:

No? Really?!? Ya don't say!

Sorry, couldn't resist the sarcasm. As I am an anime fan, I am quite familiar with the influence of the Chinese written (hiragana?)

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Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:

language on Japanese written language. I was just wondering if anyone recognized it as Mandarin or Japanese. After pausing my copy of Bushwacked and comparing the characters to the written Japanese characters in my Japanese language text book, I have reached the conclusion that those characters are Mandarin. I could be wrong, but I think it is Mandarin.

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Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:
[q]Jasonzzz:
Really, another anime fan? I can hardly contain myself.[/q]

Ahhhh, sarcasm gotta love it

[q]Jasonzzz:
I don't know if you are refering to Mandarin the language, Mandarin the race/subrace/ethinicity of people, or Mandarin as in Orange. What you said doesn't make much sense here. [/q]

As we were talking about Mandarin the language, I presumed that Mandarin took a different written form than, oh say let's say, Cantonese. Next time I'll try to be more specific for ya since ya couldn't keep up with the topic of discussion.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Those "spoken" words in Cantonese are 'writable', they are often expressed directly in comics, for example. (When a cantonese writes something down on paper, it's usually in "Chinese" with very few "Cantonese" words/sounds, if any at all...) But the Cantonese "words" that are written would be virtually indistinguishable from anyother Chinese ideogram. The only difference being that it would be full of "sounds" only used and understable by a Cantonese speaking person.

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Originally posted by ReyvnDarKnight:


To be honest, I hope Whedon changes his mind about that element of the series. As I said before, I like the element of western motif. But a sci-fi series without an alien or extra-terrestrial sub-plot and contiual western motif could limit the potential of the series as well as quickly wear thin the interest of some sci-fi fans.

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Originally posted by Haken:
As someone who lives in a place where Chinese, Japanese, and Korean are used quite extensively by the local population, let me just clarify this matter a bit as there seems to be some confusion here.

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Well, one last comment. The Chinese don't refer to Mandarin as "Mandarin". It's known as "Putonghua", which literally means the "Common Language".

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Originally posted by delsie:

I like having aliens in sci fi, but in some cases (and in many more recent shows, IMO) I feel that the aliens actually take away from the characters and plot developement. Sometimes people get a little too carried away by the latex in the show. Besides, there is other sci fi material that excludes aliens and still manage to pull it off.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing a show with all humans. There is a possiblity of it getting boring, of course. However, from what I've seen so far, the writers have left themselves a lot of maneuvering room. As long as the show isn't written into a corner, I think it will remain interesting, with or without aliens.

(Just a quick little side note: This is my first post here so I just wanted to make sure that I said 'Hi' to everyone and give you all fair warning of a newbie.)

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Originally posted by loonytoon:
zicsoft, the confederates so called fondness for slavery is made up. Somewhere less than %5 of southerners owned slaves, and the emancipation proclamation originally only freed southern slaves, not northern ones. Lincoln did not wan`t to piss off his northern supporters that owned slaves. Way off topic, this stuff just bugs me.

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Originally posted by misterelbert:

Would anyone be surprised if the Reavers were more work of the Allience Blue Hands gone horribly wrong?

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