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Armenia and Azerbaijan

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Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


At issue between these two nations is Nagorno-Karabakh. Like many borders drawn after the fall of the Soviet Union, the border between Armenia and Azerbaijan was drawn without reference to the majority residents' ethnicity and identity. The people of Nagorno-Karabakh speak Armenian and are Orthodox Christians. The people of Azerbaijan are Muslims and speak a Turkic language (Azeri). Unfortunately, Nagorno-Karabakh, instead of being included with Armenia, was shoved into Azerbaijan, and there have been problems with that ever since.

Azerbaijan has been accused of ethnic cleansing and even starving Nagorno-Karabakh. Residents of Nagorno-Karabakh have been accused of terrorism.

The current leader of Armenia, Pashynyan, seems so intent on joining the EU/NATO bloc that he just wants to scrape Nagorno-Karabakh off, so he will allow Azerbaijan to fully take over that region without ensuring that the residents there will be treated fairly and equally. This makes him extremely unpopular with Armenians.

This video made a few days ago was very predictive of the military action that is occurring. It's an excellent background explanation.



The people of Nagorno-Karabakh seems to be ethnically cleansing themselves by leaving in droves.
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Thousands Of Armenians Rush To Airport, Fearing Genocide, As Ceasefire Announced In Nagorno-Karabakh


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/thousands-armenians-rush-airpor
t-fearing-genocide-ceasefire-announced-nagorno-karabakh

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Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:23 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Turkic culture and Israeli Jewish are giving mohammedans weapons to kill Armenia Christians as was done in the Balkans


If one controlledan old idea of Trans-Caucasia ? an old political link of Armenians, Azerbaijanis, and Georgians, you would link to riches of the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea, once caused the coastal towns of Khazaria, such as Atil, to flood. The Black Sea linking to Southern Europe and Caspian Sea linking to Asia Kazakhstan, Russia and almost touching Uzbekistan

Azerbaijan jihad islamist Religion 96% Islam, Shiite & Sunni, the ugly looking Bibi-Heybat Mosque in Bakue is built over the tomb of a descendant of the terrorist pedophile warmonger Muhammad, a man that had raped animals, had sex with cousins, sucked the tongues of young boys and married a 6 yr old girl...Moohmamad and this mad rapist terroristic inbred descendants, this is who muslims pray to?

Putin got super paranoid when rumors when around Georgia’s political elite might join up with that Missile Defense thing after 911, maybe I should go back and bump a few old posts on the 2008 Russo-Georgian War, Mikheil Saakashvili eating his own tie on Live Tv? He is currently serving a prison sentence in Georgia accused of abuse of power and organization of a grievous bodily injury against an opposition lawmaker Valery Gelashvili, he was also granted Ukrainian citizenship but has now been stripped of his own Georgian Citizenship, now a foreign traitor in his own broken lands? in a final humiliation on a trip to the USA, the Georgia loser guy was stripped of his Ukrainian citizenship by Petro Poroshenko, not Ukraine, not Georgia and became a stateless person. Saakashvili then decided to hang out with drug addicts and prostitutes for a while and moved to the Netherlands, where he was granted permanent residency, but he started jumping walls and became a border runner, Saakashvili was arrested in Tbilisi, was hiding inside a milk truck for a while then starts illegally crossing the state border of Georgia, bypassing the customs control like a rioting soccer hooligan, was placed in the No. 12 penitentiary facility in Rustavi.

Always changing hands and many names over many years of history but today the Ramadan Ragheads have flooded Russia, the Mosque Rat culture is outbreeding Russian culture, Transcaucasia a dead museum of culture, ethnology, death, invasion, rape, theft and cultures, an always troublesome region with different religions and Empire influences. Names like John Paul Jones the only American man to have bombed England in the Revolutionary war, Ioannis Kapodistrias, Principality of Serbia, Bulgarian Legion, Chechen rebels, Peter I King of Serbia, Emperor Alexander I, Nino of Mingrelia, Dimitrie Cantemir, Ivan Skoropadsky, the Austrian German Ernst Gideon von Laudon, Heraclius or Erekle II, the British Viscount Palmerston selling his anus to islam a British Lord Raglan supporting disgusting terrorist islamics, Zaporizhia Cossack Hetmanate, Napoléon III once joined Turks against Russia, another history happens with United States Leader Woodrow Wilson.






Russia is in decay, Turks return to islam, Armenians get messed up bad its trying to chat with USA or EU, the Kingdom of Georgia is long over. Once again SHITLAMIC culture expands, in London, in Detroitisan, in Shitcago, you name it

They say come to the easy and pleasant life ....but that's before you die!??...Saying Russia will ride shotgun and got their backs is like saying Nicholas II of Russia got your back? The old mohammedan ways, long histories

There was once a Yogoslavia like Country or Federation here, then Armenians, Azerbaijanis, and Georgians quickly jeopardized the TDFR's existence, it broke down and, they were together but facing a renewed Ottoman offensive, the Caucasus were sucked into the Russian Empire and became a major battle theatre, the Russian and Ottoman Turk Empires fighting each other in the region and then Russian strangely then killed itself and dissolution of the Russian Empire in November 1917 and seizure of power by the Marxism Bolsheviks, separate Armenian, Azerbaijani and Georgian national republics declared their formal independence from Russia

A similar event happened with Yugoslavia and it was once held together by a Transcaucasian Democratic Federative system
but back then Joe Stalin gave Azerbaijan-Perso-Arabic-Turk-Azerbanjani their own country of Azerbaijan-Dagestan-Turkic-Azerbanjani people to try make them Azerbanjan Atheist and try seduce Turkey into this new communist Atheist Empire.

Armenia is stuck between a rock and a hard place, already genocided by Turkish, the USA doesn't really support it well the USA kind of supports its right to be Armenia but its also somewhat close to the Russians and Russia kind of supports its right to exist but Russia is busy invading and killing in Ukraine
before that Russia was distracted by its own Soviet break up and an invasion of Afghanistan, in the days of Soviet Union 1988–91 the Russians supported Azerbaijan against Aremnia
Turkey is selling weapons alleged
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2021-0012_EN.html
,
https://archive.today/2020.10.07-174629/https://cgpolicy.org/articles/
turkey-challenging-russias-monopoly-in-the-south-caucasus
/
,
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36777/everything-we-know-about-t
he-fighting-that-has-erupted-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-armenia-azerbaijan-allies-analysis/
analysis-russia-and-turkey-keep-powder-dry-in-nagorno-karabakh-conflict-idUSKBN27P0MN

crazy radical Israeli Jews aka Christ Killers are happy to see Armenians die as long as they make a buck
Wow such behavior by 'Greatest Ally'
Not from conspiracy media but French mainstream and Israel Jewish media
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/nagorno-karabakh-conflict-israel-a
zerbaijan-arms-trade-armenia-iran-1.9212986

,
https://www.france24.com/en/video/20201006-nagorno-karabakh-conflict-i
srael-under-diplomatic-fire-over-arms-to-azerbaijan



The USA is some alt reality dream might like to switch Armenia for other allies, but it is too close to Russia and Turks are acting weird and unfriendly, landlocked by Turkey to the west, Georgia to the north and Azerbaijan to the east, and Iran and the Azerbaijani exclave of Nakhchivan to the south, in a different timeline different reality they might be able to Georgia a country to the West which at least would connect to ports of the Black Sea to the west, but Russian invaded and blasted the crap out of Georgia's military and Turkey has grown stronger diplomatically even though Turk leadership has become more stupid and crazy


Russia is almost a worthless ally which can not be depended upon, they pay Chechen islamics to kill Ukrainian Christians, then depending on the payment and Bitcoins the Chechnya islamics might turn sides and kill Russians or with bigger payment shoot and bomb and kill Ukrainians instead, Russia is totally distracted and focused on Ukraine. There are reports of Azerbaijan using Syrian perhaps former ISIS or former opposition Syrian mercenaries as canon fodder.

In the 80s and 1990s Armenia had 30,000—40,000 fighting men for the secessionist movement in Nagorno-Karabakh, today that number is much smaller

Russia probably does have one Ace it can play, it can stop providing Metals, Oil, Gas, Indian Rupee, Brazilian Real, Mineral banks in the region are probably rich due to sanctions so they can stop the flow until it has some sort of cease fire that it desires

Normally a group like the UN might step in and solve such a complex issue but it has become the United.Nothing.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The people of Azerbaijan are Muslims and speak a Turkic language (Azeri)



The biggest mistake Greeks or Armenian made was its managed decline of the Greece Empires, the fall of Constantinople allowing alien Turkic islamist language and invasion.

Then if they are Turkic and speak Karluk Afghan Arab languages maybe they leave everyone alone and stop genociding cultures, maybe should piss-off back to Turkmenistan, some Turkic community of Asscrackistan, they can go back to their islamist jihadi cultist homeland of Mecca or Tehran

everywhere this islamism jihadi Sharia Law crap spreads, the teachings of the terrorist pedophile warlord mahomet follows, simply a mad man, a perverted killer and rapist man described in their books, the ghost of moohammad a criminal they believe a prophetand this insane Moongod al-Lah entity is allowed spread and people murder in the name of this stupid book the Quran or Koran.

I know you claim to know a lot about this culture but Have you read the crap the cultist teachings in this jihadi islamo book yet?

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Friday, September 22, 2023 9:13 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Azerbaijan claims to seek amnesty for Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh fighters who surrender their weapons
https://news.yahoo.com/azerbaijan-claims-seek-amnesty-armenian-1058584
67.html


Ethnic Armenian separatists and Azerbaijan agree to end fighting in disputed enclave
https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/npr/1200994945/ethnic-arm
enian-separatists-and-azerbaijan-agree-to-end-fighting-in-disputed-enclave

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Tuesday, September 26, 2023 6:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Tens Of Thousands Of Armenians Flee Their 2,000-Year Heartland In Karabakh, Facing [fearing] Genocide

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2023 - 03:25 PM

Shocking scenes have been emerging from the Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh this week, after last week an Azerbaijan military offensive targeting a breakaway region killed at least 200 people and wounded many more.

An exodus of tens of thousands of ethnic Armenians is underway from their 2,000-year ancient homeland of Artsakh, which in modern times has existed within the internationally recognized borders of Azerbaijan.
. . .

Washington has urged restraint amid accusations that Azerbaijan is conducting genocide:

US Agency for International Development (USAID) chief Samantha Power, in the Armenian capital Yerevan, called on Azerbaijan "to maintain the ceasefire and take concrete steps to protect the rights of civilians in Nagorno-Karabakh".

Power, who earlier handed Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan a letter of support from U.S. President Joe Biden, said Azerbaijan's use of force was unacceptable and that Washington was looking at an appropriate response.

She called on Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev to live up to his promise to protect ethnic Armenian rights, fully reopen the Lachin corridor that connects the region to Armenia and let in aid deliveries and an international monitoring mission.









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Friday, September 29, 2023 4:36 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Mel Gibson condemns Azerbaijan's genocide of #Artsakh Christian Armenians, calling out media silence and demanding swift international action to protect and save Armenians
https://twitter.com/ANCA_DC/status/1707180936163401951
To the Armenian people who still suffer, I say: "Don't lose heart, God is with you"

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Wednesday, January 17, 2024 6:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


What to know about Democratic presidential candidate Cenk Uygur

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-presidential-candidate-cenk
-uygur/story?id=105660743


Hasan Piker a Turkish-American streamer and left-wing political commentator


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Monday, May 27, 2024 6:10 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Israelis and Turkish give them weapons to kill Armenian Christians

Armenia: Thousands of protesters are demanding the resignation of Nikol Pashinyan over a deal giving Azerbaijan control over four border villages. Archbishop Bagrat Galstanyan is leading the push to oust the prime minister
https://www.dw.com/en/armenia-archbishop-challenges-pashinyan-and-azer
baijan-deal/a-69188453


https://web.archive.org/web/20141103080836/http://besacenter.org/wp-co
ntent/uploads/2014/10/MSPS110-web.pdf


https://archive.today/20200807183847/https://www.dailysabah.com/opinio
n/columns/what-is-role-of-foreign-players-in-azerbaijan-armenia-conflict


both sides used killers for hire or war criminal mercenaries during the war

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Wednesday, June 12, 2024 7:01 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 11:52 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Sunday, June 23, 2024 4:12 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Netanyahu destroying good will, arrogant and ego, a selfish monster

Office of the Christ Killers makes a statement, the Dumb Zionist Jewisih Israeli assholes couldn't make a more hollow threat? they already are supplying the islamics weapons to kill Armenians

'Decision to recognize Palestine will have serious consequences for relations between Israel and Armenia: Netanyahu's office'
https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/06/21/Decision-to-recognize-Palestine-wi
ll-have-serious-consequences-for-relations-between-Israel-and-Arm/1146333

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Sunday, June 23, 2024 9:23 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Russia Will Regret Losing Armenia as an Ally
https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/russia-armenia-csto/

Georgia: Protesters and riot police face off outside Tbilisi parliament after divisive 'foreign agents' bill passes
https://news.sky.com/story/georgia-protesters-and-riot-police-face-off
-outside-tbilisi-parliament-after-divisive-foreign-agents-bill-passes-13135019


Criminal Mercs jihadi islamist Chechens switching sides depending who who pays the most, sometimes helping to fight Russia’s war

Putin's ailing Chechen warlord pal Ramzan Kadyrov films himself 'pulling a pickup truck' in a bid to prove his good health amid claims he is dying of pancreatic illness
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13400371/Putins-ailing-Cheche
n-warlord-pal-Ramzan-Kadyrov-films-pulling-pickup-truck-bid-prove-good-health-amid-claims-dying-pancreatic-illness.html



The impossible pipelines of the Caspian Sea and Gas maybe Oil, 3.5 times as much water, by volume, as all five of North America's Great Lakes combined, it is bounded by Kazakhstan to the northeast, Russia to the northwest, Azerbaijan to the southwest, Iranian to the south, and Turkmenistan to the southeast.

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Friday, July 19, 2024 4:41 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Russia rages over US military exercise in Armenia

https://eurasianet.org/russia-rages-over-us-military-exercise-in-armen
ia


Macron defends supplying arms to Armenia, says it has the right to defend itself against aggression. "The perspective of Armenia and France is peace. I do hope the perspective of Azerbaijan is peace"

https://x.com/HovhanNaz/status/1814026360827871436

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Monday, July 22, 2024 5:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


France’s overseas separatists forge united ‘front’ at Azerbaijan congress

https://www.macaubusiness.com/frances-overseas-separatists-forge-unite
d-front-at-azerbaijan-congress
/

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Wednesday, July 24, 2024 6:38 AM

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the exodus of Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh


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