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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, March 22, 2019 8:52 AM (P)

Only 2,234 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002430

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 22, 2019 10:37 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:

6ix, the GOP could have V.P. Mike Pence protecting you from Democratic Socialism and identity politics, but they keep Trump in the White House, instead.

The only protection one needs from Democratic Socialism and Identity Politics is 6 working brain cells and a will to live.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, March 22, 2019 5:29 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
From where the globalist elites sit, you look to them like we look to you. You are not Trump - I doubt you have his wealth. Trump is not a transnational elite.

While you argue about Trump and thwart his natioanlist goals, the even bigger elite make off with more of the wealth than you can possibly imagine.

But why am I arguing with a religious person? You have your religion, as warped as it is, and nothing is going to shake it from you.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

What Trump is against is what the 1 Percenters are against: higher taxes on the wealthy, more IRS audits of the wealthy, more prosecutions for white-collar crimes. These would also get Trump removed from the White House, but only if the Senate was willing to convict Trump.

You might have noticed that Trump voters describe tax audits and white-collar prosecutions as Witch Hunts. They don't even want to think about crime. They certainly don't want convictions. It all works out great for the 1 Percenters. I, for example, have never been audited, not because I'm honest, but because the GOP reduced the budget for the IRS. If Trump had ever got a real audit, he would be much poorer. A conviction for tax cheating would have kept him out of the White House.

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, March 22, 2019 7:10 PM (P)

Trump's latest line of argument is that because neither Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the man who established the special counsel, or Mueller were elected -- and Trump was -- they have no right to judge him.

On Wednesday, Trump said, "It's interesting that a man gets appointed by a deputy; he writes a report. You know -- never figured that one out," he said. "I had the greatest electoral victory -- one of them -- in the history of our country. Tremendous success. Tens of millions of voters. And now somebody is going to write a report who never got a vote."

Here's Trump in an interview with Fox Business Network's Maria Bartiromo that was released Friday morning:

"It's always interesting to me because a deputy, that didn't get any votes, appoints a man that didn't get any votes, he's going to write a report on me. I had one of the greatest election victories in history. Would you say that's true? They came from the valleys, they came from the rivers, they came from the cities, they came from all over, they voted in one of the greatest elections in the history of our country, and now I have a man, because we have an attorney general who -- nobody can even believe he didn't tell me, but he recused himself -- so I have a man who is a deputy who I don't know, who I didn't know at all, and he appoints a man who had just left my office, I didn't give him the job at the FBI, [James] Comey's his best friend, but listen, you know it better than anybody, you've been very fair in this, but listen, I have a deputy, appoints a man to write a report on me, to make a determination on my presidency? People will not stand for it."

www.cnn.com/2019/03/22/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-unelected/
index.html

Vice-President Mike Pence was elected with just as many votes as Trump. He is the only person in the world who could stand in judgment of Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, March 22, 2019 7:51 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
"I had one of the greatest election victories in history. Would you say that's true? They came from the valleys, they came from the rivers, they came from the cities, they came from all over, they voted in one of the greatest elections in the history of our country..."

Fwiw: In the Electoral College tally, he was 46th of 58 elections. In the popular vote, he was one of the very few presidents ever to have a negative showing.

It's hard for me to tell if he's just a compulsive lying sack of sh*t, or really that delusional. Both?

"They came from the rivers..." Fish? Fish voted for him?

SECOND

Friday, March 22, 2019 8:14 PM (P)

Trump claims Mueller investigation 'illegal,' ignoring multiple court rulings

www.cnn.com/2019/03/21/politics/fact-check-trump-says-mueller-investig
ation-is-illegal/index.html

Trump's head is empty. One ruling out of many: Concord Management and Consulting, a Russian company Mueller's team says operated a "troll farm" that produced political propaganda online during the 2016 campaign, was charged last year with conspiring to defraud the US government by interfering with the Federal Election Commission, the Justice Department and the State Department.

Federal judge Dabney Friedrich of the US District Court in DC, sided with Mueller's team and rejected Concord's argument that Mueller's investigation was unconstitutional. "The appointment does not violate core separation-of-powers principles," Friedrich wrote in an opinion last August. "Nor has the Special Counsel exceeded his authority under the appointment order by investigating and prosecuting Concord." Judge Fredrich was appointed by Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Friday, March 22, 2019 8:58 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
"I had one of the greatest election victories in history. Would you say that's true? They came from the valleys, they came from the rivers, they came from the cities, they came from all over, they voted in one of the greatest elections in the history of our country..."

Fwiw: In the Electoral College tally, he was 46th of 58 elections. In the popular vote, he was one of the very few presidents ever to have a negative showing.

It's hard for me to tell if he's just a compulsive lying sack of sh*t, or really that delusional. Both?

"They came from the rivers..." Fish? Fish voted for him?

Trump is a dictator trying to destroy this democracy so he can thrive.

T

SECOND

Friday, March 22, 2019 9:33 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Trump is a dictator trying the destroy this democracy so he can thrive.

Destroy, you say? Psychiatrists are speaking with dire predictions about the potential for a deranged person with extraordinary powers to create global mayhem and destruction.

“He has very poor coping mechanisms when he is criticized or when he feels humiliated,” Bandy Lee, a forensic psychiatrist from Yale and the editor of The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, the second edition of which is out this month, told me, “and at these points he generally goes into attack mode and he threatens others or tries to get revenge. The Mueller report is of a scale that is probably unlike what we have seen him undergo before.”

Worst-case scenario? “Obliterate observing eyes of his humiliation,” Lee said. Meaning? “Destroying the world. That, very quickly, becomes an avenue, a perceived solution … for individuals with his personality structure.”

More at www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/22/trump-mueller-report-surviv
e-226101

People predict the president will collapse under the stress of the Mueller investigation. But Trump has teetered on the brink of insanity before and never succumbed.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, March 22, 2019 10:17 PM (P)

Trump is against illegal immigration. He's also against the TPP and TTIP. Those are far more important than any financial crimes he may or may not have committed. I look at Presidents for their POLICIES, not their personalities or personal crimes.

Look at Obama ... his POLICIES increased wealth inequality and the deficit and eroded Consitutional liberties at the same rate as under GWB and Clinton. Trump is merely following in the path of the previous Presidents.

But if you want to compare the previous two candidates on the basis of corruption or personality, Hillary and Bill (the WH crime family) were just as corrupt and just as psychopathic (if not more so) than Trump.

But why am I talking to a religious person? You have your beliefs, and nothing is going to shake them from you.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Friday, March 22, 2019 10:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump is against illegal immigration. He's also against the TPP and TTIP. Those are far more important than any financial crimes he may or may not have committed. I look at Presidents for their POLICIES, not their personalities or personal crimes.

Mike Pence is against all same things as Trump and without the personal crimes. If you were truly interested in "their POLICIES" Pence could carry out those policies faster than Trump. It has been pointed out that Trump is disorganized, which makes him ineffective at carrying out his policies. Pence is organized. And Pence didn't have to keep his tax returns secret because he is not a crook. Being a crook interferes with policies. And Pence doesn't lie dozens of times per day, unlike Trump. Being a liar interferes with policies if Congress can't trust you to keep your word. Shutting down the government for no purpose interferes with policies.

How Trump’s Laziness Is Destroying His Presidency
www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/04/the-ineffective-executive-how-trumps-l
aziness-is-destroying-his-presidency

Signym, if you cared whether Trump's policies go into effect, you'd call for Trump to resign so that Pence can finish the job Trump has barely started.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 22, 2019 11:09 PM (P)

It seems we've come full circle after 25 months of this thread.

I'll refer you to the second post here, in response to the OP:

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. If you're right, enjoy President Pence. Maybe the church will be indistinguishable from the state 4 years from now. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, March 22, 2019 11:12 PM (P)

But Trump was elected President, not Pence. There will be life after Trump, but if you kick over the Constitution in your haste to get rid of him and allow the deep state to drive him from office then where will you be then?

It's like when Republicans were cheering on GWB's "unitary executive" and FREM warned people that the next President would be a democrat, and that all of the violations that Republicans were cheering on would come back to bite the, Be careful what you wish for.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SECOND

Friday, March 22, 2019 11:29 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But Trump was elected President, not Pence. There will be life after Trump, but if you kick over the Constitution in your haste to get rid of him and allow the deep state to drive him from office then where will you be then?

Pence was Trump's choice. If Trump could not depend on Pence, then it is Trump's fault. He should have picked somebody who does share his dream. The only person kicking over the Constitution is Trump and he did it this week, overriding Congress with a veto. Not 2/3rds of Congress agreed that what Trump wants to do is unconstitutional, but all the Democrats agreed. Dozens of Republicans agreed with the Democrats about Trump's unconstitutional grab for power. This will end in the Courts, but in the meantime, Trump won't get his wall, mostly because what he does is unconstitutional.

www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/02/25/republicans-choice-constitut
ion-trump-border-emergency-vote-column/2971253002/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 23, 2019 12:20 AM (P)

I think it's just posturing for the 2022 elections.

He won't get his wall. It will be blamed squarely on the Democrats.

Then time will tell if Trump will be just like every other two term president that ever existed and just forget about the wall and the promises he made.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, March 23, 2019 12:43 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's just posturing for the 2022 elections.

He won't get his wall. It will be blamed squarely on the Democrats.

Then time will tell if Trump will be just like every other two term president that ever existed and just forget about the wall and the promises he made.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump is simply posturing? It that the same as lying? Yes, it is. He is also lying about the origins of the Russia investigation.

He wants you to believe it began with the Steele dossier. It didn’t. It’s not surprising that Trump and his allies are pushing their narrative that the investigation has been a political “witch hunt” from the start. But unfortunately for Fox News and Trump, their new favorite talking point is false.

The FBI’s investigation originated with George Papadopoulos, not Christopher Steele, despite what Trump says over and over about Steele. You'd think somebody would punch Trump in the mouth for spreading that convenient falsehood, won't you? But it doesn't ever happen.

We’ve known since December 2017 that the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation of the Trump campaign began in July 2016 — months before the FBI was even alerted to the existence of the Steele dossier.

During a night of heavy drinking in London, Papadopoulos bragged to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain about his knowledge that Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign. The Australian diplomat told American diplomats and they told the FBI. That doesn't match with Trump's widespread lie about how the investigation started. When is somebody going to punch Trump in the mouth for lying?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Saturday, March 23, 2019 2:24 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But Trump was elected President, not Pence. There will be life after Trump, but if you kick over the Constitution in your haste to get rid of him and allow the deep state to drive him from office then where will you be then?

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Pence was Trump's choice. If Trump could not depend on Pence, then it is Trump's fault. He should have picked somebody who does share his dream. The only person kicking over the Constitution is Trump and he did it this week, overriding Congress with a veto. Not 2/3rds of Congress agreed that what Trump wants to do is unconstitutional, but all the Democrats agreed. Dozens of Republicans agreed with the Democrats about Trump's unconstitutional grab for power. This will end in the Courts, but in the meantime, Trump won't get his wall, mostly because what he does is unconstitutional.

Since you failed tp refute - or even address - Signy's point about unconstitutional actions to remove a constitutionally elected president, the point still stands.

SECOND

Saturday, March 23, 2019 3:11 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

Since you failed tp refute - or even address - Signy's point about unconstitutional actions to remove a constitutionally elected president, the point still stands.

Refute my ass. Trump declared it unconstitutional over and over, but 6 different courts have contradicted the dumb motherfucker 6 times. Read the memo, rue/1kiki, you shithead: www.cnn.com/2019/03/21/politics/fact-check-trump-says-mueller-investig
ation-is-illegal/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:09 AM (P)

Mueller investigation is over. He handed over his report.

tick tock

T

SECOND

Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:28 AM (P)

The letter that William P. Barr, the attorney general, sent to Congress.
www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-report.html

The Attorney General
Washington, D.C.
March 22, 2019

The Honorable Lindsey Graham Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate
290 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510

The Honorable Dianne Feinstein
Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate
331 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510

The Honorable Jerrold Nadler Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary United States House of Representatives
2132 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

The Honorable Doug Collins
Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary United States House of Representatives
1504 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Chairman Graham, Chairman Nadler, Ranking Member Feinstein, and Ranking Member Collins:

I write to notify you pursuant to 28 C.F.R. § 600.9(a)(3) that Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has concluded his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and related matters. In addition to this notification, the Special Counsel regulations require that I provide you with ‘‘a description and explanation of instances (if any) in which the Attorney General” or acting Attorney General “concluded that a proposed action by a Special Counsel was so inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices that it should not be pursued.” 28 C.F.R. § 600.9(a)(3). There were no such instances during the Special Counsel’s investigation.

The Special Counsel has submitted to me today a “confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions” he has reached, as required by 28 C.F.R. § 600.8(c). I am reviewing the report and anticipate that I may be in a position to advise you of the Special Counsel’s principal conclusions as soon as this weekend.

Separately, I intend to consult with Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein and Special Counsel Mueller to determine what other information from the report can be released to Congress and the public consistent with the law, including the Special Counsel regulations, and the Department’s long-standing practices and policies. I remain committed to as much transparency as possible, and I will keep you informed as to the status of my review.

Finally, the Special Counsel regulations provide that “the Attorney General may determine that public release of” this notification “would be in the public interest.” 28 C.F.R. § 600.9(c). I have so determined, and I will disclose this letter to the public after delivering it to you.

Sincerely,
William P. Barr
Attorney General

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:57 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's just posturing for the 2022 elections.

He won't get his wall. It will be blamed squarely on the Democrats.

Then time will tell if Trump will be just like every other two term president that ever existed and just forget about the wall and the promises he made.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump is simply posturing? It that the same as lying? Yes, it is.

Yeah. No shit.

Do you think that we haven't been paying attention to politicians lying to us our entire lives? Do you think that somehow you alone have all the answers and you're smarter than everybody else, Second?

You're an insufferable cunt, you know that?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:07 AM (P)

Quote:
Look at Obama ... his POLICIES increased wealth inequality and the deficit and eroded Consitutional liberties at the same rate as under GWB and Clinton. Trump is merely following in the path of the previous Presidents.

I see you attended Trump University...Suma Cum Lied

SGG

THG

Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:04 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:
Look at Obama ... his POLICIES increased wealth inequality and the deficit and eroded Consitutional liberties at the same rate as under GWB and Clinton. Trump is merely following in the path of the previous Presidents.

I see you attended Trump University...Suma Cum Lied

SGG

Ok, that's funny...

T

REAVERFAN

Saturday, March 23, 2019 9:55 PM (P)

It's more a question of when, not if.

I think Trump will probably get reelected. The Dems just can't seem to learn any lessons from their defeats. If we get some center-right lame-o like Joe or Beto, they can kiss the presidency goodbye.

It's like they want to lose. Perhaps they do. The DNC refuses to do what it would take to win: Run a real progressive candidate who would excite voters.

There are still plenty of crimes to investigate. Impeachable ones. But the Repubs have lots of dark money campaign cash, and an immovable cult of brainwashed, low-IQ sheep who literally wouldn't care if he shot someone on 5th avenue. Modern politics have given a new meaning to "Teflon president."

THG

Saturday, March 23, 2019 10:56 PM (P)

Don't be a fatalist reaver. What will be will be but I don't foresee that outcome.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 23, 2019 11:14 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:

Really now?

I thought you faggots were the ones going on and on about Mueller for the last two years.

Way to flip the script, Marcos.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Saturday, March 23, 2019 11:47 PM (P)

THG

Sunday, March 24, 2019 4:59 AM (P)

I think the dummy is drinking again

T

RUE

Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:17 AM (P)

You mean RF? Yeah, it looks like it.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I think the dummy is drinking again

T

REAVERFAN

Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:32 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
You mean RF? Yeah, it looks like it.
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I think the dummy is drinking again

T

It's fun triggering you, kiki. Your frustration at always being proven wrong and laughed at must be unbearable.

Sucks to be you.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 24, 2019 8:50 AM (P)

Yesterday Mueller claimed his Witch-hunt Fishing Expedition was over.

Only 2,232 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002430

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 24, 2019 8:56 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's just posturing for the 2022 elections.

He won't get his wall. It will be blamed squarely on the Democrats.

Then time will tell if Trump will be just like every other two term president that ever existed and just forget about the wall and the promises he made.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

What is just posturing?
How will it affect the 2022 Mid-terms?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:30 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's just posturing for the 2022 elections.

He won't get his wall. It will be blamed squarely on the Democrats.

Then time will tell if Trump will be just like every other two term president that ever existed and just forget about the wall and the promises he made.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
What is just posturing?
How will it affect the 2022 Mid-terms?

What? You can't connect the dots there?

The wall won't be built before election. At least not any significant part of it.

What has been accomplished during the first few years of the first half of the Trump presidency, however, is proof that the Democratic party is against border security. Facing off against a president that has pushed for it like no other has done before, they had to stop lying about it and come clean.

This, among other things, will secure Trump's re-election in 2022, and will possibly result in a swing back into Republican's favor in the house.

But then we have to see if the wall actually gets built. I somehow doubt that it will.

That is why I say it's just posturing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 24, 2019 12:31 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:

Really now?

I thought you breeders were the ones going on and on about Mueller for the last two years.

Way to flip the script, Marcos.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There, Marcos and T.

FIFY.

Now rebuke it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 24, 2019 2:56 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's just posturing for the 2022 elections.

He won't get his wall. It will be blamed squarely on the Democrats.

Then time will tell if Trump will be just like every other two term president that ever existed and just forget about the wall and the promises he made.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
What is just posturing?
How will it affect the 2022 Mid-terms?

What? You can't connect the dots there?

The wall won't be built before election. At least not any significant part of it.

What has been accomplished during the first few years of the first half of the Trump presidency, however, is proof that the Democratic party is against border security. Facing off against a president that has pushed for it like no other has done before, they had to stop lying about it and come clean.

This, among other things, will secure Trump's re-election in 2022, and will possibly result in a swing back into Republican's favor in the house.

But then we have to see if the wall actually gets built. I somehow doubt that it will.

That is why I say it's just posturing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump won't be running for any Office in the 2022 Mid-term Elections.
Perhaps you mean Trump will be running for Reelection in 2020.
Or else, he loses in 2020 and you think he'll run again in 2024.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 24, 2019 3:37 PM (P)

You know what I meant. Stop being a dick.

The wall won't be built before 2020.

After being backed into a corner and finally admitting they never wanted to secure the border, Democrats will be blamed.

Trump will win in 2020 and likely get the house back.

The wall still won't be built because the GOP secretly doesn't want it either.

End of story.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:22 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
You mean RF? Yeah, it looks like it.
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I think the dummy is drinking again

T

It's fun triggering you, kiki. Your frustration at always being proven wrong and laughed at must be unbearable.

Sucks to be you.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 24, 2019 7:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
You mean RF? Yeah, it looks like it.
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I think the dummy is drinking again

T

It's fun triggering you, kiki. Your frustration at always being proven wrong and laughed at must be unbearable.

Sucks to be you.

T

I see you keep doubling down on stupid.

EVERYTHING you've said for the last two years has been derived from baseless accusations.

Your assertion that I took up drinking again is no exception to this rule.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:33 PM (P)

MY assertion?

America’s Corruption Is a National Security Threat
Donald Trump is one symptom of a wider problem that’s making the United States weaker on the international stage.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/19/americas-corruption-problem-is-a-
national-security-threat/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 25, 2019 1:06 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
MY assertion?

No. That was obviously a reply to T.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:50 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
All true SECOND, but its all whacking at Trumps supporters. In the end Trumps supporters will not balk as much when Mueller releases his report. A report republicans can not ignore. A report that leads to Trump and others going to jail.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Facts sink in. But they don’t matter. Let that sink in.

In both experiments, the researchers found that corrections did what they were intended to do: nudge people toward the truth. Trump supporters were more resistant to the nudge, but they were nudged all the same.

But here’s the kicker: The corrections didn’t change their feelings about Trump (when participants in the corrections conditions were compared with controls).

“People were willing to say Trump was wrong, but it didn’t have much of an effect on what they felt about him,” Nyhan says.

So facts make an impression. They just don’t matter for our decision-making, which is a conclusion that’s abundant in psychology science.

www.vox.com/2017/7/10/15928438/fact-checks-political-psychology

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:51 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
“FBI investigators and others,” Bloomberg reported, “are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development in New York with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008.”

In a more rule-bound environment, Mueller’s interest in opening Trump’s books would probably be checkmate for the president. It is widely suspected that a peek under the hood of the Trump organization will reveal serious financial crimes. Assuming that informed speculation is correct, Mueller would uncover the wrongdoing and bring down a president, or Trump would fire Mueller and Congress would step in to edge Trump out.

This is assuming our system of checks and balances hasn’t broken down. Republicans have given every indication over the course of the past several months that no malfeasance, no matter how naked and severe, will impel them to rein in Trump or impeach him.

That leaves the crisis to be decided by the midterm election. That election is 16 months away. Between now and then, Trump’s DOJ and his sham election-integrity commission will seek to disenfranchise as many Democratic voters as possible, while the president himself beseeches further foreign interference aimed at Democratic candidates. Absent the necessary election sweep, everything Trump will have done for his own enrichment and protection will have been ratified, and a point of no return will have been crossed.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143984/were-brink-authoritarian-crisis

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:52 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
What are you waiting for then!?
Trump’s recklessness is raising the stakes. The claims that Trump and his legal team are putting forward are already radical: that Trump can’t be charged with obstruction of justice because it’s in his power to terminate an investigation at any time. Although he came close, Nixon would not go that far. As president, Trump is different. Trump is preparing to drive the political system over the cliff.

Bob Bauer wrote on the blog Lawfare that Trump firing Robert Mueller would end the investigation and leave only impeachment as a remedy, with Trump counting on Republicans in the House and the Senate to support him no matter what. If the Democrats took back the House in the 2018 midterm elections, Trump could be impeached, but he would remain in power since Democrats won’t have the two-thirds votes necessary in the Senate to remove him. Emma Loop of BuzzFeed interviewed four Republican senators about whether firing Mueller would be a mistake. Only one, Marco Rubio of Florida, unequivocally said yes.

One of the main reasons for elevating Mueller as a public figure — to make him a household name — is so that firing him would become a more politically costly act. If Trump fires Mueller before the Democrats can make it a national issue, then the public will be playing catch-up with the story. The better known Mueller is, the more costly his firing would be to Trump.

If Republican Senators won't defend Mueller’s job, and Mueller is fired, they’ll be tainted as enablers in the next election.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143986/america-dont-let-donald-trump-f
ire-robert-mueller

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:53 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by G:

Being president and not giving a sh*t must be the most exciting thing for Trump since... ever. He is unburdened by party or consequence. It's as if he's playing chicken with all of us. "What? I shouldn't fire Mueller?? Watch me!"
Trump thinks that the worst that could happen is he writes more books like Nixon did in retirement. And Trump will have an advantage that Nixon didn't -- Trump has money to hire ghostwriters to do the actual work of writing his books. Trump's books will be better than Nixon's, Trump's will be the best, ever! Believe me.
www.google.com/search?q=Nixon's+books

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:54 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Lindsey Graham announces bill, threatens Trump: ‘Beginning of the end’ of presidency if he fires Mueller

http://conservativefiringline.com/lindsey-graham-announces-bill-threat
ens-trump-beginning-end-presidency-fires-mueller/

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:55 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Congress has handcuffed Donald Trump on Russia.

Back in December, Obama announced a raft of new sanctions against Russia and the expulsion of dozens of Russian diplomats from the US as a penalty for its meddling in the 2016 election.

Today, Obama-era sanctions against Russia that are in place under executive orders — directives that only the president had authority to enact and rescind — are enshrined in the law. Trump can't rescind Obama's orders. It is not the same as Trump losing all Presidential power and being booted from the White House by Mike Pence, but it is a start.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/28/16055630/congress-trump-russ
ia-sanctions-veto

The next step in taking the White House away from Trump a little bit at a time is for Congress to forbid him from firing Robert Mueller.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
The man SIG argued would be the best choice for president is in deep shit with the justice department. The excitement in the air is palpable.

Report: Mueller convenes grand jury in Russia investigation

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington, D.C., a clear sign that the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is ramping up, the Wall Street Journal reports.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-robert-mueller-convenes-grand-jury-
in-russia-investigation/

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 6:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Mueller Plunges Across Trump's Red Line

Trump has threatened Mueller, trying to keep his investigation confined to the election. He suggested in an interview with The New York Timesthat he might fire Mueller if the probe spread too wide.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-plunges-across-trumps-r
ed-line/ar-AApni7m

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
They've got Trump in a strangle hold concerning Russia as they, the republicans, try and get done what they can. Trump is going down. They know it, and will help do so when the time is right.

- Congress moving on 2 bi-partisan fronts to pass legislation to protect Mueller's investigation.
- Mueller opens grand jury in DC

If he fires Mueller he's toast. If he doesn't fire Mueller he's toast. By firing Comey and saying on tv that he did it to stop the investigation into his ties with Russia, he's toast. He's likely been laundering money for Russian Mob/Oligarchs. Jr. attempted collusion - we still don't know what was exchanged at that meeting. Them saying "it was nothing," yeah, like we're going to believe that.

==============================

It's a mess G. He held a rally in Virginia to show he has enough support to make the lives of the Republicans difficult, to say the least. If he is guilty, he has to fire Mueller. Rallying his base first would be smart.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Art of the Deal ghostwriter Tony Schwartz says Donald Trump’s presidency ‘is effectively over’
August 18, 2017

Tony Schwartz, the co-author on Donald Trump’s infamous 1987 book The Art of the Deal, has said he believes Trump will soon resign from his position as POTUS.

The ghostwriter, who spent 18 months working on the book with the business tycoon in the 1980s, has been one of Trump’s most vocal critics since he started running in the presidential race. While he was with Trump writing his book, he said the business mogul was thinking about “how do I do whatever is best for me and how do I get over everybody else,” he told CNN today.

On Thursday, Schwartz tweeted: “Almost all of Trump’s limited attention is focused on beating down his critics. No time for governing which doesn’t interest him anyway.”

“The circle is closing at blinding speed. Trump is going to resign and declare victory before Mueller and congress leave him no choice.”

“He’ll say he did everything he could to save America. He’s going to try and paint this as his own victory and he’s the ultimate victor.”

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/the-art-of-the-deal-writer-says-tr
umps-presidency-is-effectively-over/news-story/280900454fc15a7069b398894948015c

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yeah, the story is that Trump asked McConnell why he didn't intervene in the Russia investigation. Apparently he wanted McConnell to dismantle the Judiciary and Intelligence Committees regarding the Russia probe.

They're laying the blame at Trump's doorstep, and Mueller may call McConnell, and others, to testify as to the particulars of the phone call by Trump to McConnell. Apparently it was a profanity laden temper tantrum by Trump pressuring McConnell.

Oh, and this little leak was produced by McConnell's staff. McConnell is a shrewd operator, he will not publicly shame Trump, but will submit a threat to his political career. Obstruction of justice in regards to the Senate Majority leader, both houses are protected under the law. If it's true and Mueller investigates - all the rallies in the world won't help Trump.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
looks like there iz alot more to it:

I'm feeling better about my 50 buks now.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I think this is funny because he is so clueless when he acts like it is none of his business: Trump to Texas as Hurricane Harvey approaches: "Good luck to everybody"
Updated by Jeff Stein Aug 25, 2017, 5:00pm EDT

Hurricane Harvey is predicted to dump more than 30 inches of rain and wreak havoc on the Texas coast from Friday evening into the weekend.

www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/25/16206466/hurricane-harvey-tex
as-trump

Even funnier, and even more clueless, is Trump saying that digging into his finances would be a "violation" of the Mueller investigation's limits. Every single time Trump says this, he is screaming to high heaven "I Am A Tax Cheater!"

"If you're looking at Russian collusion, the president’s tax returns would be outside that investigation," an adviser to the president told the Post.

But legal experts say Trump's financial history and business dealings are properly within the scope of the probe.

www.businessinsider.com/trump-tax-returns-finances-russia-mueller-2017
-7
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

There are no laws in Texas against building on a flood plain?

Texas is Republican controlled. There are no state laws stopping an unscrupulous builder from selling to a gullible buyer housing in a flood zone. There are federal rules, I mean there were rules until Trump decided differently, preventing the Federal Flood Insurance Program from insuring new houses in flood zones. Houses that also are covered by FHA mortgages must have that insurance.

In other news of "There Ought To Be A Law!" and getting back to something Trump specifically did this week that no President ever tried before, even Nixon in his dreams:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/26/trump-arpaio-pardon-constituti
on-white-house-officials

Bradley Moss, a national security attorney, argued: “By demonstrating his willingness to issue pardons without bothering with the trouble of bureaucratic due diligence or concerns about political backlash, President Trump has sent out a subtle and implicit message to [Michael] Flynn and [Paul] Manafort: hang tight, I have your back.

“He undoubtedly is attempting to forestall either of the two men (or their subordinates) from cooperating with Mueller beyond what’s legally required, with the unspoken reassurance hanging over the investigation that the president can wipe their criminal slates clean if Mueller gets too close.”

Trump reportedly did not consult the justice department before issuing the pardon which, along with being unusually early in a presidency, came just weeks after the court decision and well before Arpaio’s appeal or sentencing.

Martin Redish, a professor of constitutional law at Northwestern University, suggested that this takes Trump into uncharted territory and could leave him vulnerable to a unique legal challenge.

“Should the president indicate that he does not think Mr Arpaio should be punished for that, he would signal that governmental agents who violate judicial injunctions are likely to be pardoned, even though their behavior violated constitutional rights, when their illegal actions are consistent with presidential policies,” Redish wrote in the New York Times, before the pardon was announced.

“Many legal scholars argue that the only possible redress is impeachment – itself a politicized, drawn-out process. But there may be another route. If the pardon is challenged in court, we may discover that there are, in fact, limits to the president’s pardon power after all.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump is ‘prepping his base’ for a constitutional crisis to stop the Russia probe
http://warincontext.org/2017/09/23/trump-is-prepping-his-base-for-a-co
nstitutional-crisis-to-stop-the-russia-probe-says-lawmaker/

September 23, 2017

Raw Story reports: President Donald Trump is preparing his base for the constitutional crisis he’ll trigger by firing special counsel Robert Mueller, according to a congressional investigator.

Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the probe has gotten deep into sensitive financial areas involving Trump and his family, and he “impulsive” president was almost certain to fire the special counsel.

“The Mueller investigation could take at least another year, maybe two, but (the House) investigation is closer to its infancy than conclusion,” Quigley said Thursday, during a discussion at DePaul University College of Law. “In the meantime, we live with the very real threat that the Mueller investigation gets shut down.”

Quigley said the investigation, despite its complexity, had already revealed evidence of wrongdoing.

“If you had seen what I had seen you’d want me to go full throttle,” he said.

The lawmaker said he’s trying to communicate a sense of urgency, because he believes Trump is willing to risk democratic institutions and civil society to protect himself from the investigation.

“One of the reasons I speak the way I do when I message about this is I’m worried about a constitutional crisis,” Quigley said. “I think there is a reason he speaks to the base in the manner in which he does. He’s prepping them, girding them for this.”

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Special counsel investigators start questioning White House staffers

Investigators have begun questioning White House staffers as part of the special counsel’s Russia probe

Tick tock, tick tock.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-investigators-s
tart-questioning-white-house-staffers/ar-AAsDdWQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, keep believing that Fake News narrative...pretty soon, Mueller will "Fake" indict people, then "Fake" trial leading to "Fake" jail.....yes, keep believing.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Special counsel investigators start questioning White House staffers

Investigators have begun questioning White House staffers as part of the special counsel’s Russia probe

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-investigators-s
tart-questioning-white-house-staffers/ar-AAsDdWQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000

More msn Fake News Factory output? They must all be guilty, otherwise the Inquisitioners would never question them.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, keep believing that Fake News narrative...pretty soon, Mueller will "Fake" indict people, then "Fake" trial leading to "Fake" jail.....yes, keep believing.

SGG

Well said.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:06 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Agreed, it seems to me that Mueller is a very carefully efficient prosecutor who wants to make sure all the i's are dotted, and all the t's are crossed before he makes his move.

Don't want the worm wriggling off the hook.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Is Countdown Clock to Trump's
impeachment getting close to ringing?

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I am inclined to think that because money laundering for the Russians, and so many other violations of the law may become indictments, it is going to take a while.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:06 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Have dirt that could impeach Trump?
Larry Flynt will pay you $10 million.
Did you hear Trump called Flynt within an hour to claim the reward?
Just minutes after the publisher Larry Flynt offered ten million dollars in exchange for information leading to Donald Trump’s impeachment, Trump contacted Flynt and said that he would gladly provide the information himself in exchange for the cash.

According to Flynt, shortly after their phone conversation Trump sent him a voluminous number of e-mails, phone records, and other evidence of impeachable offenses, after which Flynt wired ten million dollars to Trump’s Swiss bank account.

“That was a lot easier than I thought it would be, to be honest,” Flynt told reporters.

The swift denouement to Trump’s tenure in the White House raised more than a few eyebrows in Washington, with some insiders wondering if Trump’s eagerness to accept the ten-million-dollar payment indicated that his net worth was considerably smaller than he had professed.

Robert Mueller, the independent counsel investigating Trump’s ties to Russia, expressed some sadness that he was not able to bring his probe to a conclusion. “I don’t know what evidence Trump had against himself, but I guarantee you I had more,” he said.

Meanwhile, the success of Flynt’s cash offer appears to have only emboldened the publisher, who announced that he is now offering twenty million dollars for information leading to the impeachment of Mike Pence.

www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accepts-larry-flynts-ten
-million-dollar-offer-for-information-leading-to-his-impeachment

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:06 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
At least one person was charged Friday in connection with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, according to people familiar with the matter.

That person could be taken into custody as soon as Monday, these people said. The number and identity of the defendants, and the charges, couldn’t be determined.

A spokesman for Mr. Mueller, Peter Carr, declined to comment. The news of the charges, marking the first in Mr. Mueller’s investigation, was reported by CNN on Friday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/first-charges-filed-in-russia-
probe-led-by-special-counsel/ar-AAu9hHW?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The question that matters now: what will Republicans do when Trump fires Mueller?

Probably nothing.

A Fox News piece was titled “Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe.”

The message is clear and important: When Trump decides to fire Mueller (and possibly pardon the targets of his investigation) to spare himself and his family from accusations of serious wrongdoing, America’s premier propaganda broadcaster will have his back.

That means that, inevitably, the vast majority of rank-and-file congressional Republicans will also have his back.

The fate of the investigation — and of the integrity of the American political process — will thus rest on the often-frail shoulders of the handful of congressional Republicans who’ve made it clear that they understand the threat Trump poses to the country but have never yet managed to conduct effective, coordinated political action to counter the threat. If they want to forestall disaster, that needs to change. And it needs to happen fast, before Trump plunges us into a new round of crisis.

The threat of a Mueller firing is very real.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16565580/what-if-trump-fire
s-mueller

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I agree SECOND if it ends here. That's not going to happen. I believe the scope of this will force the Republicans to act.

The fox report stating Mueller is facing pressure from the republicans is actually fox news trying to create that pressure; fake news. Mueller won't be intimidated as recent events show.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The question that matters now: what will Republicans do when Trump fires Mueller?

Probably nothing.

A Fox News piece was titled “Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe.”

The message is clear and important: When Trump decides to fire Mueller (and possibly pardon the targets of his investigation) to spare himself and his family from accusations of serious wrongdoing, America’s premier propaganda broadcaster will have his back.

That means that, inevitably, the vast majority of rank-and-file congressional Republicans will also have his back.

The fate of the investigation — and of the integrity of the American political process — will thus rest on the often-frail shoulders of the handful of congressional Republicans who’ve made it clear that they understand the threat Trump poses to the country but have never yet managed to conduct effective, coordinated political action to counter the threat. If they want to forestall disaster, that needs to change. And it needs to happen fast, before Trump plunges us into a new round of crisis.

The threat of a Mueller firing is very real.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16565580/what-if-trump-fire
s-mueller

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If three or four Republican senators were to say loudly and clearly that firing Mueller would induce them to hold up significant aspects of the GOP legislative agenda until the investigation can be restored, that would make all the difference in the world. Critically, it’s important to say that before Trump actually fires Mueller. If statements come while Mueller is still in his job, that gives the business community, the GOP leadership, and other critical actors reason to lean on Trump to not fire Mueller — since firing Mueller would throw a wrench in the works of the legislative agenda.

By contrast, if Mueller’s firing is already fait accompli by the time Trump-skeptical Republicans try to mobilize against it, they’re the ones who’ll be leaned on to not make trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If three or four Republican senators were to say loudly and clearly that firing Mueller would induce them to hold up significant aspects of the GOP legislative agenda until the investigation can be restored, that would make all the difference in the world. Critically, it’s important to say that before Trump actually fires Mueller. If statements come while Mueller is still in his job, that gives the business community, the GOP leadership, and other critical actors reason to lean on Trump to not fire Mueller — since firing Mueller would throw a wrench in the works of the legislative agenda.

By contrast, if Mueller’s firing is already fait accompli by the time Trump-skeptical Republicans try to mobilize against it, they’re the ones who’ll be leaned on to not make trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.
I hope Trump does not fire Mueller. I want Mueller to finish the job without drama and Trump to serve out his term, give me an undeserved tax cut, and then Trump gets stomped on in 2020 like a cockroach. Splat!

The Congressional Republicans have NOT said it EXTREMELY LOUD and perfectly clear what they will do to Trump if he fires Mueller. They might do nothing. Think how that plays out from now to 2020. I saw this quote: “Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer must make crystal clear right now that firing Mueller or interfering with his investigation would be met with swift and forceful congressional action, including the opening of an impeachment inquiry against the president and the creation of an independent commission to investigate interference in the 2016 election.”
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_good_fight/2017/10/don_t_
wait_for_trump_to_fire_mueller_the_time_to_start_fighting_back_is.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I enjoyed your sarcasm. I am however afraid of the damage Trump could do should he serve a full term. It could be catastrophic.

I'd add that the Republicans still have cover. As the indictments come forth and more is revealed that will change. They'll have to act.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.
I hope Trump does not fire Mueller. I want Mueller to finish the job without drama and Trump to serve out his term, give me an undeserved tax cut, and then Trump gets stomped on in 2020 like a cockroach. Splat!

The Congressional Republicans have NOT said it EXTREMELY LOUD and perfectly clear what they will do to Trump if he fires Mueller. They might do nothing. Think how that plays out from now to 2020. I saw this quote: “Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer must make crystal clear right now that firing Mueller or interfering with his investigation would be met with swift and forceful congressional action, including the opening of an impeachment inquiry against the president and the creation of an independent commission to investigate interference in the 2016 election.”
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_good_fight/2017/10/don_t_
wait_for_trump_to_fire_mueller_the_time_to_start_fighting_back_is.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Significance of indictments in Russia investigation

Newly released court documents show that Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos communicated with several senior campaign officials about his outreach to the Russian government over a period of months. The recipients of Papadopoulos's emails are not named in the filings, but The Washington Post has identified several individuals based on interviews and other documents. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty this month to lying to federal agents about his outreach to Russia.

"The Campaign Supervisor": Trump campaign national co-chairman Sam Clovis
Victoria Toensing, an attorney for Sam Clovis, confirmed that several references in court filings to "the campaign supervisor" refer to the onetime radio host from Iowa, who served as Trump's national campaign co-chairman.

At one point, Papadopoulos emailed Clovis and other campaign officials about a March 24, 2016, meeting he had in London with a professor, who had introduced him to the Russian ambassador and a Russian woman he described as "Putin's niece." The group had talked about arranging a meeting "between us and the Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump," Papadopoulos wrote.

Papadopoulos later learned that the woman was not Putin's niece, and while he expected to meet the ambassador, he never did, according to filings.

Clovis responded that he would "work it through the campaign," adding, "great work," according to court documents.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who’s-who-in-the-george-papado
poulos-court-documents/ar-AAuftAJ?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

He was arrested and turned states evidence three months ago. That means he may have been wired and conversed with who knows who in the Trump administration since. By phone or in person he would have discussed Russia. What he and the administration did with the Russians and getting them on tape. Think obstruction of justice as they tried to get their stories straight with him not knowing he was taping the conversation.

And are there more doing the same thing. Where's Flynn and watch Gates. I'm a fan of Bob Mueller.

Tick tock

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:13 AM (P)

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Originally posted by JO753:
Az I understand it, Trump can not directly fire Mueller. He woud haf to fire Sessionz and Rosenstien and replase them with croniez who woud do it.

Not eazy to find sumwun who iz loyal and stoopid enuf to risk prizon. Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prizon!

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com]

Not to worry Joe. SIG and kiki are being shown to be absolute morons, stupid and corrupted when voicing there opinions about anything. A better word to describe them is; trolls.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:14 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Ex-Trump aide: I 'probably' talked Russia with staffer charged in Mueller probe

Former Trump campaign aide Carter Page says he "probably" discussed Russia in emails with fellow ex-staffer George Papadopoulos, who has pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about his contacts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-trump-aide-i-probably-talke
d-russia-with-staffer-charged-in-mueller-probe/ar-AAuftu9?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:14 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Papadopoulos looks young & pretty cute.
He would be popular in prison.

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Depends on how much information he had to share with Mueller concerning Trump.

Papadopoulos Claimed Trump Campaign Approved Russia Meeting

Former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos made a significant claim in an email: Top Trump campaign officials agreed to a pre-election meeting with representatives of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-31/papadopoulos-claime
d-trump-campaign-approved-russia-meeting

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:14 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
SIG, can you see me laughing? Spin the truth all you want in these threads. What's going on in reality is playing out in the real world, not in your diseased little mind. Funny how nothing from the real world backs up the claims you make. Hillary is not under investigation for colluding with the Russians; Trump is. Hillary is not the president, Trump is.

On a side note. I'm sure all Putin's friends are real happy the world is now focused on their money laundering process, and will be taking serious steps to frustrate that. Why, payback for the Russians meddling in all their elections. What goes around comes around. Consider for a moment comrade that Mueller's investigation may lead to charges against many if not all of Putin's friends. Hmmm, he may not be able to go to Russia and get them, but his investigations can cause havoc in their lives.

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THUGR:

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Ex-British spy [was] paid $168,000 for Trump dossier, U.S. firm discloses

A Washington research firm paid a former British spy’s company $168,000 for work on a dossier outlining Russian financial and personal links to Donald Trump’s 2016 election campaign, the U.S. firm said in a statement on Wednesday...

Fusion GPS’ statement said it had told Congress about how $168,000 was paid last year to Orbis Business Intelligence, Steele’s company.

The money paid to Orbis was taken from $1.02 million it received in fees and expenses from the Perkins Coie law firm, the statement said. The law firm represented the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-dossier/ex-british-
spy-paid-168000-for-trump-dossier-u-s-firm-discloses-idUSKBN1D15XH?utm_campaign=digest&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nuzzel

In other words, the DNC and Hillary Clinton, thru their common law firm, paid Russians[s] for "dirt" on Trump.

How is that any different than what the Trump campaign is accused of doing, except that the Trump campaign didn't pay anybody and never got a "dossier" from their abortive contacts?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:18 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
House Dems introduce articles of impeachment against Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/cohen-articles-of-impeachment/i
ndex.html

"House Democrats introduced articles of impeachment Wednesday against
President Donald Trump, though they acknowledged their efforts have no
chance of success while Republicans control both houses of Congress."

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Stupid and did I say stupid. All show and is only going to gum up the works by creating more hate. I can't say it enough, they need to let Mueller do his job. These people are as bad as those protecting the republican Moore. They are a part of the problem and not the solution.

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:18 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Mueller Probing Pre-Election Flynn Meeting with Pro-Russia Congressman

WASHINGTON — Investigators for Special Counsel Robert Mueller are questioning witnesses about an alleged September 2016 meeting between Mike Flynn, who later briefly served as President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a staunch advocate of policies that would help Russia, two sources with knowledge of the investigation told NBC News.

The meeting allegedly took place in Washington the evening of Sept. 20, while Flynn was working as an adviser to Trump’s presidential campaign. It was arranged by his lobbying firm, the Flynn Intel Group. Also in attendance were Flynn’s business partners, Bijan Kian and Brian McCauley, and Flynn’s son, Michael G. Flynn, who worked closely with his father, the sources said.

Mueller is reviewing emails sent from Flynn Intel Group to Rohrabacher’s congressional staff thanking them for the meeting, according to one of the sources, as part of his probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-probing-pre-election-flyn
n-meeting-pro-russia-congressman-n819676

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:19 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I would say it is astounding that SIG, kiki and Jack, continue to suggest in different threads there is no evidence of the Russians interfering in our elections. Or that there is no evidence of Trump and his associates colluding and conspiring with them. Even though, in this and those other threads, the evidence posted to date suggests overwhelmingly they did. No, I won't say their constant denials are astounding, because at least two of the three are Russian trolls. So, it is to be expected.

Anyway, those of us who know better continue to post updates concerning this topic. As we do so, we are laughing to ourselves at the lame attempt made by these trolls to dispute and deflect away from the facts.

Tick tock, tick tock

Kushner under scrutiny in Russian probe

Leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee revealed on Thursday that Kushner failed to hand over a document about a “Russian backdoor overture” — nor did he provide investigators with a September 2016 email he was sent about WikiLeaks or communications the campaign forwarded to him from a Russian-born businessman.

He remains a person of interest in special counsel Robert Mueller’s federal investigation into Russian election meddling, a source with knowledge of the probe told Reuters.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/360951-kushner-under-scrut
iny-in-russian-probe

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:19 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Publicist who set up Trump Jr., Russian lawyer meeting says he's ready to talk to Mueller. I doubt he'll come to America.

Trump’s “Coffee Boy” Keeps Sabotaging His Russia Story

George Papadopoulos told foreign contacts he was a significant player on the campaign—and claims Trump gave him a “blank check” for a White House job.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/george-papadopoulos-trump-camp
aign-russia

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:28 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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I'm not complaining about anything. The MSM can do whatever they want to do.

Okay. Got it!

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All I'm saying is that it's a shame that the MSM has been handling things they way they have the last year.

We've been through this, but it bares repeating, the MSM is reporting on the presidency - no matter how lame the administration performs or how poor the coverage. I didn't hear much of anything whenever the media covered Obama and the
fucking "real obstructionists" in Congress:

Do you remember when the Republican-lead Congress blocked Obama from picking a Supreme Court judge? For over a year, because they thought maybe a Republican would win (Hmmmmm). Anyway, that's news! And now Donny Baby is crying, boo hoo, that Congress is obstructing him - but wait a minute; they control both houses. It's all a bunch of bullshit and people are swallowing it hook, line and sinker. These are the things that need to be in the news...of course, a lot that Donny Baby does is to distract from his total dismantling of the government as we know it. The one that functions on a high level, the one that has the keys to the Kingdom, namely our country.

I say all of this because the media is a necessary evil, as the saying goes. It generally is needed to keep an eye on the crazy Orange One and his staff from blowing up the works. Literally. I guess you don't want to know if these fucking assholes "colluded" with the Russian Mob to fuck us all in the ass real good.

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I'm open to the idea that Trump is a scumbag and a traitor. It's quite possible and if it is he should be punished to the full extent of US law.

This is all I'm saying. The truth is out there and I'm curious as to how these stupid fucking rich scumbags thought for a second that they would get away with it.

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But without any real evidence I just find it hard to believe at this point. I'm not going to believe the MSM when they accuse him everyday of being one just because he has character flaws that you and a lot of other people hate.

"Without any real evidence..." When someone is conducting an investigation, especially in white collar crimes, it takes time to dig and find the money. Here's the thing, Trump and company have been lying since the beginning. They have denied
any contact with the Russians, but at every turn Mueller finds stuff and then people like Sessions, Kushner, Don Jr. etc. lie through their teeth that they ever met with any Russians. The day after Trump fired Comey, he invited Russian mobsters into the White House and gave away classified secrets (and don't give me that "but what about Hillary" crap because had she done what Trump did, you'd never hear the end of it - Benghazi went on for years).

Look Six, I get it. You are siding with the people you identify with, I have no problem with that. You can do whatever you believe in. I'm doing the same. I don't hate Trump because of skin color (wait, I gotta laugh at that last statement, he's so fucking orange), or even because he's rich, not even his "fake" hair. It's because, above all, HE'S A REAL HONEST-TO-GOODNESS SCUMBAG! He'll step on your neck and take your last penny, while you're lying in the gutter unconscious.
That's the mark of a real douchebag. He would "screw" his own mother for a buck.
And now he's the president. And he is not playing by the established rules that has made this country great. Fuck his slogan, I know what it really means, but even that is smoke and mirrors Six. You are being duped by the biggest con-artist in the universe. This is how he makes his money; and it is NOT honest.

And those character flaws is shitting on what made this country great. His motto and his administration is a sham, flim-flam, bogus....a big fucking lie. He's using his best stuff to rob, lie, cheat and steal his w

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:28 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It looks like the blame for Mueller's future failure is already being written.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-mueller-record-20171122-stor
y.html

As he investigates Trump's aides, Robert Mueller's record shows surprising flaws

Tick tock, tick tock

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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:29 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Retired Lt. Gen Michael Flynn has promised “full cooperation” in the special counsel’s Russia investigation and, according to a confidant, is prepared to testify that Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians, initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria.

The stunning turn comes as Flynn, who is cooperating with investigators in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI about his back-channel negotiations with the Russian ambassador – talks that occurred before Trump took office. The Special Counsel made the plea agreement public Friday morning.

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:29 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by second:
I haven’t seen anything yet to convince me that the Putin-Trump collaboration was a big deal. Ugly and unprincipled, sure, but politically consequential, probably not.

Let’s speculate on the political fallout from a potential prosecutor’s report that Trump cut deals with Putin before taking office. Is this something that nobody on either side of the aisle could possibly defend? What happens if the Republicans in the House and Senate say, hey, it’s just a bureaucratic detail, since he was already elected? And why wouldn’t they say this? How would that be any more outrageous than anything else they’ve said or done in recent memory? Who would stop them?

The “who would stop them” thing is what it’s all about. Modern movement conservatism is about winning, period. To worry about honesty, consistency or any other check on your political options is to be a loser. This is why we hear made-up stories about the effect of taxes and voter fraud laws, when the ones promulgating them know they’re false and know you and I know they’re false. They don’t care, except about winning, which they’ve become good at. Give me a scenario in which the Republican congressional establishment does not shrug off a report against Trump.

Trump is not invulnerable, and scandal may drag him down, but it won’t be over points of law that matter only to people who believe in the rule of law. The 2018 election could change that, but only if it breaks a lot bluer than currently expected. A damning report against Trump could influence the vote, but only if it appears in the last week or two of the campaign, before tribal cohesion reestablishes itself.

Well, trying to set up a back channel going though the Russian Embassy in an attempt to bypass our Intel agencies, and our elected officials in the senate and house, if true, sounds criminal to me.

That said, Mueller and his people aren't leaking. All we know is what has been found out by the press and leaked, many times by the White House. Those close to and working for Trump.

Well, that and that so far 4 of Trumps people have been charged with crimes within his first year of office. Two of which have already plead guilty.

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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:29 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"
The first person to come out in favor of a soft coup, when the presidency was a mere 32 days old. Because ... Russia.
Most conservatives consume pro-Trump media, which will downplay or distort virtually anything Mueller or the mainstream press discovers. And the more aggressively Democrats push for Trump’s removal, the easier it will be for Breitbart and Sean Hannity to rally Republicans against a “left-wing coup.”

Removing a president requires bipartisanship. And in this ultra-partisan age, that means removing a president is impossible, even when he’s Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:29 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Not to worry kiki. You're showing a lack of patience. If the Democrats win the white house in three years, Trump will get his then. As for Russia, over the long term the price for fucking with Europe, America and so on will take a large toll.

Mueller is going to find Trump broke many laws like laundering money. Maybe it will be the Rico Act. Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. If push comes to shove, all they need do is keep some under raps until the next election. In any case, justice will be done.

Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed. That's when the evidence is presented dummy. Think obstruction...

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed.
I keep saying there's no evidence yet, because, as you agree, there is no evidence yet.

So, what have you been going on about for nearly a year?

Oh, that's right - the line of propaganda you get paid to push, to help that soft coup along.
1kiki, you are nutty about declaring "no evidence". Trump's lawyer just lied about evidence by saying he did it, not Trump, when the lawyer falsely claimed he wrote the tweet, not Trump, where Trump admits to obstructing justice.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/04/doesnt-make-sense-incredulity-
trumps-lawyer-john-dowd-take-blame-for-flynn-tweet

Mueller should have that lawyer swear an oath that the lawyer wrote the tweet, not Trump, so that the lawyer would go to jail for lying to the FBI when it was proven that Trump, not the lawyer, actually wrote it. But that won't happen because your lawyer cannot be compelled to testify against you. Trump really owes his smart lawyer, John Dowd, an eternal debt for jumping into the fire and saving dumb-ass Trump from burning.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Yeah...

Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make.

I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.
Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure.

Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”.

“If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement.

Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-hand
ed-over-robert-mueller

Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday.

Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime.

The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit.

A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions.

Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods.

“One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers.

The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt.
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-
subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Federal prosecutors reportedly sought bank records related to Jared Kushner's family business

Federal prosecutors have reportedly sought bank records related to White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's family business. It's not clear whether there is any connection between that development and special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-prosecutors-subpoena-deutsche-b
ank-jared-kushner-records-2017-12

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:30 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Former Watergate prosecutor: 'Conspiracy,' not collusion, is main issue in Russia investigation

Nick Ackerman, a former Watergate prosecutor, said Saturday that the big issue in special counsel Robert Mueller investigation is not whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia, but whether it conspired to steal emails from prominent figures in the Democratic Party.

"I think the big enchilada here is the conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee in violation of the federal computer crime law and to use those emails to help Donald Trump get elected," Ackerman said on MSNBC.

"All of that is motive as to why Donald Trump and others were endeavoring to obstruct the investigation, and why Donald Trump told [former FBI Director] James Comey to let the investigation on [former national security adviser Michael] Flynn go," he added. "All of this is going to come together in 2018."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-watergate-prosecutor-con
spiracy-not-collusion-is-main-issue-in-russia-investigation/ar-BBHwKHN?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:31 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:

The president’s public denunciation of Bannon came only after a report early Wednesday, based on excerpts from a forthcoming book, that quoted Bannon condemning as “treasonous” a June 2016 meeting in which Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, met with Kremlin-linked Russians to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ... and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately,” Bannon reportedly said.
Prevezon’s lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, arranged the meeting with Trump Jr. last year. She had been pushing for a long time to get something done about the Prevezon case. So it's very possible that she went into that meeting with Trump Jr essentially asking for help, in return for which she would give the Trump campaign dirt on Hillary and the DNC.

Several months after Trump takes office, the Prevezon case is dismissed. So what happened? The U.S. attorney was carefully preparing a case against Prevezon Holdings. They were all set to go forward, and then suddenly the case was settled. Prevezon's own lawyers were kind of shocked. We know they paid something like $6 million, which is a fraction of what the lawsuit was about. So they were extremely happy about it.

Do we have any evidence that Trump was involved in any way with Prevezon? We know is that Preet Bharara, the attorney in charge of the case, was fired by Trump in early March, and shortly thereafter the Prevezon case was dropped. They had been ready to prosecute, witnesses were flown in, it was all set to go, and it was settled rather unexpectedly. So I think this is a case that hasn't really entered the public consciousness yet. But I'm sure that special counsel Robert Mueller's team is looking at it.

www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-fbi-collusion
-fusion-gps

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:31 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Trump’s behavior is consistent with two diametrically opposite conclusions. It’s consistent with the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia in some way and is desperate to cover it up. But it’s also consistent with the possibility that Trump is entirely innocent. A person with Trump’s volcanic temper and bottomless feelings of grievance would probably react exactly the way he has if he had done nothing wrong.

So far, all the evidence we’ve seen publicly has come tantalizingly close to obstruction of justice, but has never quite gotten there. But even if it doesn’t, the precise legal definitions of obstruction apply only in a courtroom, not in an impeachment trial. The kinds of things Trump has done are more than enough to constitute a “high crime” if enough members of Congress think it does. At the moment, Republicans prefer keeping Trump in office. But if they ever decide he’s too big an albatross and they’d rather deal with President Pence, Mueller is almost certain to give them enough to make a case with.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:37 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Bannon Is Subpoenaed in Mueller’s Russia Investigation

The move marked the first time Mr. Mueller is known to have used a grand jury subpoena to seek information from a member of Mr. Trump’s inner circle. The special counsel’s office has used subpoenas before to seek information on Mr. Trump’s associates and their possible ties to Russia or other foreign governments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-is-subpoenaed-in-muelle
r’s-russia-investigation/ar-AAuMnx6?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:37 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,634 days left on the Impeachment Clock.

Trump budget funds Mueller probe through fiscal 2019

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-budget-funds-mueller-pro
be-through-fiscal-2019/ar-BBJ31Hy?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp

Personally, I hope Mueller waits until the 2018 elections. I want more democrats in office when he makes his move. And it looks like there are going to be quite a few elected.

Tick tock
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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:37 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Rick Gates: Top Donald Trump Campaign Aide Will ‘Flip,’ Robert Mueller Russia Probe Closing In, Report Says.

Rick Gates, a top aide to Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election campaign and longtime business partner of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, is ready to strike a plea deal with Russia investigation Special Counsel Robert Mueller, CNN reported on Thursday afternoon. The news appears to be a potential bombshell because a plea agreement likely indicates that Gates is ready to “flip” and provide Mueller with potentially damaging information against Trump, the report said.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4788392/donald-trump-russia-robert-mueller-r
ick-gates/

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:41 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Pay particular attention to the last sentence. Read it twice if you wish. Go ahead have fun, I am.

Trump-Russia inquiry: Manafort under pressure after reports that Gates has flipped

Donald Trump’s former campaign manager is under increasing pressure to cooperate with criminal prosecutors investigating the campaign’s alleged collusion with the Kremlin following reports that his chief lieutenant will testify against him.
Several US media outlets, including the Los Angeles Times and CNN, reported that Rick Gates, a former campaign aide and lobbyist, has struck a deal with Robert Mueller, the special counsel, and will testify against Paul Manafort, his longtime business associate, in exchange for leniency.

Gates has appeared to be a relatively minor figure in the Trump/Russia probe. But if he were to plead guilty to criminal charges connected to his earlier work as a lobbyist for a pro-Kremlin party in Ukraine, including allegations of money laundering, it would set off a chain of events that could bring Mueller’s investigation deep into the White House.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/19/trump-russia-inquiry-p
aul-manafort-pressure-rick-gates

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:42 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
The Trump Tower meeting at the center of the Russia investigation, explained

1) What is this Trump Tower meeting — and why do we care?

2) Who was involved in the meeting?

3) What do we know happened?

4) How did we learn about the meeting?

5) What do the meeting participants now say happened?

6) Does the “such a nothing” story hold up?

7) Are there good reasons to think there’s more to the story?

8) What do people think might have happened at the meeting?

9) Why is Robert Mueller so interested in this meeting?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-tower-meeting-at-the
-center-of-the-russia-investigation-explained/ar-BBJC5wv?ocid=spartanntp

It's a long article which is why I only posted its list of talking points. It makes a good effort to put things about the meeting and what it means into perspective.

tick tock

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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:42 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Forgive me, but because MSNBC videos gives some here heartburn I just can't help myself from posting more and more of them. Also, they are representative of what all MSM outlets are reporting at this time.

They are reporting the facts and are the best way to push back against the fake news trolling that goes on here.

So here is another one concerning what Mueller is up to.
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Monday, March 25, 2019 7:42 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Despite what I would like to see happen for the good of the country second, I am aware that the removal of a sitting president is next to impossible.

That said, with Trump being more and more isolated, and with him making more and more decisions the republican don't like, I.E. gun control, tariffs and what's left to come, anything is possible. Remember, if the democrats control 51 senate seats then only 16 republicans have to vote for it. Unless they are in very red states with impossible Gerrymandering situations we never know.

If Trump conspired with the Russians, they may have no choice.
I don’t think any GOP Senator will vote against Trump unless there was something in it for the Senator. Maybe worrying about not being reelected? From my experience with Trump voters (exclude the “Independent” voter who voted for Trump) no matter what Trump has done, I don’t think it is possible to change their minds unless Trump testifies against himself. And he will never do that. I don't think Mueller can get Trump to say the words: "I did it. I'm guilty." His last breath will be "Fake News! No Collusion!"

Lets not forget Trump is a national security risk. Mueller knows this and is pursuing the facts needed to prove it. I think congress is aware of this as well. More and more at least as Mueller's investigation progresses.

This was proven to me time and time again by Trumps actions. Going as far back as the beginning of his campaign. And as you can attest, I've been very vocal about it.

As I said, Mueller realizes Trump has been compromised by Russia and is therefore a security risk. Think about it. Russia just threatened us with it's latest weapons technology. Putin actually showed on a large screen while giving a speech to his country a nuclear missile launch simulation. The route of the missile was over the south pole towards us. He also threatened us verbally during this reelection speech.

Trump said and did nothing. He is to busy tweeting in anger at Alec Baldwin. I cannot emphasize enough that the threat Trump poses to this countries national security may force everybody's hand. That along with the perceptions about his mental health deteriorating.

This guy is isolated now like never before. The pressure on him is tremendous and his has been showing signs of cracking up for a while now. Look how tightly he wraps his arms around himself when in these televised meeting; wow. He has no one left in the White House he can trust. With more staff about to abandon ship either willingly or by force. He has the added problem of nobody worth anything wanting to hire on with him. His anxiety, compulsivity, and lashing out is only going to increase.

The situation is untenable. When something is untenable it forces change.

T

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Despite what I would like to see happen for the good of the country second, I am aware that the removal of a sitting president is next to impossible.

Therez the 25th amendment, wich mite be wut Pence woud uze to pry Trump out uv The Chair after he gets impeached and indited. (assuming Pence iznt also indited, wich he shoud be!)

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Lets not forget Trump is a national security risk. Mueller knows this and is pursuing the facts needed to prove it.

How moronic the GoPs are iz prooven every day they dont impeach Trump. They dont need to wait till Mueller indites, so even ignoring the daily crimez and incompetens iz bad enuf, but they are risking him doing sumthing that cant be 'Foxed away' to satisfy their idiot voterz.

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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Mueller wants documents from Trump, campaign associates

WASHINGTON — The grand jury investigating alleged collusion between Russia and Donald Trump's presidential campaign has issued a subpoena seeking all documents involving the president and a host of his closest advisers, according to a copy of the subpoena reviewed by NBC News.

According to the subpoena, which was sent to a witness by special counsel Robert Mueller, investigators want emails, text messages, work papers, telephone logs and other documents going back to Nov. 1, 2015, 4½ months after Trump launched his campaign.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-wants-documents-from-t
rump-campaign-associates/ar-BBJS7C1?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

tick tock tick tock
T

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Plus you have Sam Nunberg running around with his hair on fire, screaming at anyone who would listen that he will not submit to a Grand Jury, or will he???

Incredible interview on MSNBC last night where he claimed that Trump did do something illegal, but he claims he doesn't know what that thing is. He went back and forth on complying with Mueller and the Grand Jury.

The Noose is getting tighter!

SGG

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
A self-described Russian 'seductress' is claiming she has dirt on Trump

A Russian escort is asking the US government to grant her asylum in exchange for audio recordings that she says reveal new information about Russian meddling in the US election.

The escort says she recorded more than 16 hours of conversations between a Russian oligarch, a top Russian government official, and others about US-Russian relations and the election.

"If America gives me protection, I will tell everything I know," she said on Monday.

"I'm ready to give you all the missing puzzle pieces, support them with videos and audios, regarding the connections of our respected lawmakers with Trump, Manafort and the rest. I know a lot. I'm waiting for your offers and I'm waiting for you in a Thai prison," Vashukevich said in a video she posted on Instagram on her way to the Pattaya jail.

http://www.businessinsider.com/anastasia-vashukevich-russian-escort-ja
iled-in-thailand-claims-dirt-on-trump-2018-3

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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Mueller has evidence of meeting to set up back channel between U.S., Russians

WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller has gathered evidence that a secret meeting in the Seychelles just before the inauguration of Donald Trump was an effort to establish a back channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin – apparently contradicting statements made to lawmakers by one of its participants, according to people familiar with the matter.

In January 2017, Erik Prince, the founder of the private security company Blackwater, met with a Russian official close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and later described the meeting to congressional investigators as a chance encounter that was not a planned discussion of U.S.-Russia relations.

A witness cooperating with Mueller has told investigators the meeting was set up in advance so that a representative of the Trump transition could meet with an emissary from Moscow to discuss future relations between the countries, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

https://www.pressherald.com/2018/03/07/mueller-reportedly-gathering-ev
idence-of-secret-meeting-to-set-up-back-channel-communications-with-russians/

T

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:48 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Where does it say in the article that this particular guy is the anon source that T's article spoke about?

On another note, we're going to trust a guy who has had dealings with Blackwater? lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Where in the article is the transcript of the testimony before the grand jury by Nader? Nowhere. So there is nothing but rumor. Except I happen to have a secret recording (provided by Nader who organized and attended the meeting) of the conversation between Erik Prince and the Russian banker. The key point made by Prince: "President Donald Trump promises to keep America’s nose out of Russia’s business in Ukraine in exchange for $10 billion dollars deposed into a Seychelles bank. There is nothing America can do about Ukraine, anyway, so why even try? And with this agreement, everybody gets what they want, Comrade!" It is simple to get great recordings of secret meetings to commit treason with the miniature digital voice recorder Edic-mini Tiny. www.amazon.com/Miniature-Digital-Recorder-Edic-mini-Proffesional/dp/B0
0PWZOKSG/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:48 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Mueller zeroing in on Seychelle's meeting as potential Russia back channel

http://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/erik-prince-may-have-misled-co
ngress-on-his-meeting-with-a-putin-connected-russian-1180432451823

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RUE

Monday, March 25, 2019 7:48 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Mueller is dotting ALL the i's and crossing ALL the t's....by the time he's done, this will be an encyclopedia of money laundering, scamming, murder, corruption, back stabbing, lying, cheating, bottom-of-the-deck dirty dealing, lollipop stealing, prostitute schtumping, blackmail, racist scumbaggery this side of the Watergate Hotel.

The shith ith really going to hith the fan. And it will be worth the wait.

SGG

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Thorough investigation ... plus Due Process to impeach ...

This is takin' too long for me. I wanna see it in my lifetime.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Wow, am I going to celebrate when it happens!!!

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